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I'm still unsure what to think about this show. The individual parts are extremely well done and really interesting to watch, but I feel like it's not... I don't know, cohesive enough. A disjointed narrative is fine for a story that starts somewhere familiar and then breaks down, but I felt like they never really established a base to work from. There's no way to tell what, if anything, is real from the very beginning. There's no weight to any specific element of it because it's so disorienting and surreal right off the bat, so why invest in anything? Why even speculate? I hope it'll start to become clearer soon, but until then it's like scene salad.
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Mulva posted:He's one of the least likely characters to ever get a tv show in the entire X-Men universe, because literally every moment of his existence is a ridiculous mindfuck. Like you can't have his super power and ever truly be sane and human. You get to choose one, and that's it. And I don't know how you convey even a fraction of that while keeping people invested, but it should be fun to see at least. While that is definitely true, my issue is more that you engage a viewer by showing your character's "ordinary world" in act one. We got a quick montage of his childhood, but that was it. His psyche wasn't fractured until his powers manifested, if I'm not mistaken, so I feel like some expansion of establishing his character and his life could've gone a long way before shifting into woo batshit territory. Like, until they said the word "sister" I had no idea if the woman seen in his flashbacks was his mother, sister, girlfriend, or caretaker, and it felt like that was on purpose. I like shows with mystery, but I feel there's no reference point to start from, so I'm not as engaged as I could be.
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Feb 17, 2017 00:05
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Mulva posted:That's exactly what you are getting. There was no happy, normal childhood. I don't want it to be the archetypal Hero's Journey either, and I do appreciate the attempt at something new, but even weird and surreal shows with unreliable narrators like Mr. Robot still established Elliot's loneliness, anxiety, and drug abuse before shattering its reality. Hannibal didn't get into the magical realism immediately. Pushing Daisies did, but it told you up front what you were getting with its high-concept plot. With Legion, it's like Pushing Daisies didn't tell you, or that Hannibal started with season 3's abstract surrealism. So far I haven't yet had the sense that anything is supposed to be real, so I'm doubting ALL of it. There were never any ground rules, so there could be a cartoon space dragon living in the tears of a giant in the next episode who tells him that the first two episodes were a dream. As I've said, that's all very intriguing, it looks great and has a great cast and all that, I just haven't been given a reason to invest in it. Welcome to Legion, where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
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Feb 17, 2017 02:01
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The first few times they showed the Angriest Boy from far away, I mistook his open mouth for a pushbroom mustache. Now whenever they show him, I can't shake the idea that people in David's subconscious mind are being chased around by Bighead Hitler.
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Mar 3, 2017 02:22
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verdigris murder posted:The gay undercurrent of David being Lenny's catamite was actually tastefully inferred, instead of just showing rough scenes of homosexuality. Violent molestation being the deep dark thing he doesn't want anyone to know about and manifesting as really hosed up mental issues and fractured reality would actually make a whole lot of sense.
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Mar 4, 2017 04:25
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King Vidiot posted:Having never seen Parks & Rec or anything else Aubrey Plaza has been in, I never understood people's (goons') obsession with her. Now I get it. Life After Beth is pretty good too.
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Mar 4, 2017 21:06
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Escobarbarian posted:This was the first episode where the weirdness tipped over into actively annoying imo. Shame
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Mar 18, 2017 12:38
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Production's moving to California. https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/legion-lucifer-oa-affair-california-tax-credit-1202010890/
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Mar 19, 2017 22:20
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Shageletic posted:Sweet! I remember how much better the scenery was in X-FIles after the move, instead of pacific northwest woods all the time. Maybe it's appropriate for Legion though - they try to go for a more idyllic setting despite darkness lurking under the surface.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:55
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I was hoping the orb at the end was a reference to when SWORD picks him up in X-Men: Legacy, but the orb wasn't shouting at him constantly.Chokes McGee posted:It's not just the schizophrenia. The episode where David is given bipolar in Farouk's/Lenny's asylum simulation is very on point, as is making a list based on logic (cognative behavioral) to help work through issues. Someone did their loving homework on mental illness and is actually depicting it accurately from the inside out. sticklefifer fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Mar 30, 2017 11:47
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Hakkesshu posted:I feel like the only thing the show needs to do now is bring in Matt Berry and have him act opposite Jemaine Clement. Also have Matt Berry pull double duty as Reynholm and bring in Richard Ayoade as Moss.
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Mar 31, 2017 01:09
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It reminded me of the Sylar/Peter battle too. They even had the same colors.
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I think the real issue is that while power duels look cool on comic pages or in anime where real world rules don't apply, in live action it's really hard to keep them from looking stupid. It's really hard to go full DBZ with live action without getting into Matrix Revolutions territory.
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