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Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010



The Prodigy was extremely my poo poo during my teenage years... and well, it still is. Back in the day I loved seeing the songs that were sampled being mentioned in the liner notes, even though there was no easy way to hear the originals at the time. So I was pretty ecstatic when I found about Dirtchamber Sessions Vol 1. It's a shame there never was more of that but I imagine mix tapes like will always be music licensing nightmare (I remember 2 Many DJs making a comment along those lines once).

Here's another version of Firestarter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPI3b9iPSN0

Some people might recognize it because it was used in a trailer for the video game Just Cause 3.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at Feb 26, 2017 around 18:18

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david_a
Apr 24, 2010


HJB posted:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmHDhAohJlQ

The album opens with a bit of a one-two combo, doesn't it? Back when I was young and impressionable (as opposed to youngish and impressionable now) I recall Breathe having a bigger impact on me than Firestarter, at least musically. Obviously it's another heavy banger, but it's the dual vocal dynamic that sets it apart from most. It's the one of the three singles that isn't as fondly remembered by many, largely due to the video, but I've gotta say watching it back now for the first time in forever it's still pretty good, if creepier than I remembered. Maxim's looking drat legendary too.
I always thought that the song doesn't quite live up to the opening guitar riff. That riff gives you a menacing, exotic feeing right away and is instantly recognizable years later. The song itself doesn't really build on it too much, though - maybe the chorus is a bit too generic? By the end of the song has become a bit tedious and I'm not really left wanting more of it, just more of that twangy guitar.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011



I remember a Guardian interview they did when one of their albums was about to be released, they were lamenting that there was nothing new and exciting about music anymore. The album they went on to release was basically lovely b-sides to Invaders and a track with Flux Pavillion a solid 5 years after dubstep had died a death.

I just sat there laughing like c'mon guys, seriously?


*edit: found it: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...nemy-oasis-blur

quote:

“Producers are too safe, they rely on being retro. It’s loving bollocks. There’s no pushing forward any more.”


LionYeti
Oct 11, 2008


Grimey Drawer

HJB posted:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmHDhAohJlQ

The album opens with a bit of a one-two combo, doesn't it? Back when I was young and impressionable (as opposed to youngish and impressionable now) I recall Breathe having a bigger impact on me than Firestarter, at least musically. Obviously it's another heavy banger, but it's the dual vocal dynamic that sets it apart from most. It's the one of the three singles that isn't as fondly remembered by many, largely due to the video, but I've gotta say watching it back now for the first time in forever it's still pretty good, if creepier than I remembered. Maxim's looking drat legendary too.

Four years ago, I saw Prodigy live and this was the greatest song they played. You haven't lived until you've moshed to this with a bunch of crazy turkish people.

mary had a little clam
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...


Young Orc

This album and Chemical Brothers and the Spawn soundtrack was what got me into electronic music my freshman year of high school. I used to listen to Fat of the Land while I played Quake mods all day long. I think what I liked about Prodigy is that I was getting into hard rock and metal at the same time, and Prodigy felt raw and dangerous in the same way that metal felt. It was electronic and computery, but it was still edgy and still felt as much like fight music as dance music. I listen to Invaders Must Die a little more than FotL these days, but FotL is still probably a perfect album in my book.

This makes me remember buying a huge picture of Keith looking like an evil motherfucker that my mom made me get rid of. We laugh about that now.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


Any picture of Keith looks evil.

mary had a little clam
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...


Young Orc

I believe this was the poster I had

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


He's very photogenic, as evidenced by this before and after from Reading 98. Meanwhile, let's have a US-based article:



Dominic Pride, Billboard, July 26 1997 - https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lg4EAAAAMBAJ



"If you listen to Led Zep, it's more danceable than Kraftwerk is."

REALTHEWILL
Jul 21, 2016


I remember hearing Climbatize, it was the first time I really got into an instrumental track.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


I had a little look and couldn't find much in the way of a (decent) creative remix of Climbatize, which is how you can tell the original got it spot on first time. To go to the completely opposite end of the scale:



Rock N Roll

It's not much of a rarity as it's been a staple of their live sets on and off since about 1994, but it's gone through a few changes over the years, and there's never been a studio version released. So here's two of the live versions - first up is an earlier version from 1995:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F63oHzv1YOI

By 1998 it had become this bone breaking beast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxNq5fo0JEo#t=70s(1:10)

david_a
Apr 24, 2010


Any interesting stuff about Narayan? It's probably my favorite off the album, probably because it reminds me the most of Experience.

ytisomauq
Dec 15, 2000


HJB posted:

I had a little look and couldn't find much in the way of a (decent) creative remix of Climbatize, which is how you can tell the original got it spot on first time.

I was curious to track down the list of movies and tv shows that have used Climbatize, and ended up with a WhoSampled link with the Jedi Knights:

http://www.whosampled.com/sample/19...Outer-Bongolia/

This is old news but just fascinating, but...on topic, I actually appreciate what Prodigy did with the sample over the original song. Climbatize is such a good track.

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

An Alabama (ROLL TIDE!!) 9.


In a weird way I feel like Leeroy leaving was the end of peak prodigy. Dude could dance like a motherfucker (see the out of space video). When he left it just wasn't the same. I'm a big fan of experience era prodigy though.


Girls is a hell of a track though

david_a
Apr 24, 2010


facebook jihad posted:

(see the out of space video)
Holy poo poo Liam looks like JeffK in that video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4eav7dFvc8

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


david_a posted:

Any interesting stuff about Narayan? It's probably my favorite off the album, probably because it reminds me the most of Experience.

Same deal as Climbatize I think, though I've heard a couple of decent covers of it. It's my favourite too, so I'll see if I can find some good stuff about it for when I get round to talking about it.

E: There's this live bit they did in 97 - Narayan Beats - which goes off in a whole other direction.

HJB fucked around with this message at Mar 8, 2017 around 12:20

REALTHEWILL
Jul 21, 2016


HJB posted:

Same deal as Climbatize I think, though I've heard a couple of decent covers of it. It's my favourite too, so I'll see if I can find some good stuff about it for when I get round to talking about it.

E: There's this live bit they did in 97 - Narayan Beats - which goes off in a whole other direction.

Never heard that before. Sounds pretty good, like a live version of the song or something.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan





After the explosive start, this is where the album begins for real. Featuring the vocal talents of the Ultramagnetic MCs' Kool Keith (for real this time), this little pulsating slice of hip-hop is a bit of a calmer relatively speaking, but it's still hard not to move to the beat. It's a side of the Prodigy that was never really fully explored, and arguably the reason why Liam went in the direction that culminated in the Dirtchamber Sessions soon after. Personally I've always liked it, it's not a track I'd specifically sit down and listen to but I always enjoy it when listening to the album. Also, the bit at the end with the numbers always made me feel like I was missing something, but I don't think there's a deeper meaning to it. MODEL 706-8073-421 ROBOT SONIC

"I got 40 grand for three minutes to write a song with Prodigy"

HJB fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2017 around 13:17

God Of Paradise
Jan 23, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySqtuxadnn4

Jez from Peep Shows band, right?

I only like The Prodigy because they're a band of one guy who makes all the music, and three Bez's who just kinda yell things while doing calisthenics on stage.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


Let's kickstart the weekend with some Climbatize fun. This is along the same lines as Narayan Beats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlSqU3DNcCw

Plus while looking for worthwhile remixes, I came across this, which is a bit sketchy but has some nice ideas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk1tj-tW5nk

Most remixes of it are very similar though in that they have the same structure and progression as the original, just with added chops or layers over the top.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011



Speaking of Climbatize, I remembered this from a couple of years back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ufimjXEbA

LionYeti
Oct 11, 2008


Grimey Drawer

The Prodigy are headling the Saturday Night stage at Ultra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKrDfGoHlD4 god knows if the stream is gonna stay on this or go to the live stage.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


I ought to carry on with this, huh.




We've hit one of the few tracks on the album I'm not particularly excited about, it's decent enough but it just kinda trots along at its own pace and does its thing. I don't think it would sound too out of place on AONO, which you can draw your own conclusions from.

Meanwhile, considering what day it is, have a "fake" remix of the track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBizzRE_77c

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010



I like it although on an album with such contenders it becomes a bit of a lightweight.

Here's the source of the vocal sample, which are obviously the Beastie Boys (it's at 2:10).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--9ucYqPvks

...and if you down the rabbit hole you'll get to the song that the Beasties were sampling (which I imagine was something that Liam also digged).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP4LGEAfUEY

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM


Yeah, this album is extremely my poo poo. I "discovered" big beat in like 2008 during my senior year of high school. Of course, it was long dead by then, but this is naturally one of the first albums I was introduced too and man it owned. Still owns.

One of my favorite things about TFOTL, is that after it's rocket start it gets mellower and mellower. Eventually by the time Climbatize comes around you feel like you've made a little journey and are pretty content with where you wind up.

If that makes any sense at all.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


Sounds about right, maybe Climbatize should have been a bit earlier in the album so you'd have a proper fast-slow-fast pattern but I think it worked out alright anyway.

As an aside, these "art figures" are now a thing:




A limited edition of 250 sets, a mere bargain at £150.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008



Gravy Boat 2k

I just wanted to drop in and say this album still rules, but Climbatize is probably the track I've gotten the most mileage out of. Just trippin balls, man.

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

"What do you fear
most in the world?"

"The possibility that
love is not enough."


Molestationary Store posted:

Some dude on YT deconstructed a few Prodigy tracks figuring out everything that was sampled and how it was manipulated via Ableton. Meanwhile Liam did this poo poo without a DAW.
Smack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZImvdZ3EZI
There's a couple other Prodigy tracks tackled by this same fellow but since it's a Fat thread will leave it at those two.
I saw these a couple years ago and it broke my loving brain.

The Prodigy is the ultimate workout music. You want to get your heart rate up? Listen to The Prodigy. I got into them pretty late, admittedly (around the release of IMD) (though I'd heard a few of their songs before that like Smack My Bitch Up, Firestarter and I seem to remember one of the songs from Always Outnumbered being in one of the old Need For Speed games), but it's insane to me how ahead of their time they were and still are.

Pendulum were one of my favorite bands for a while and they went through a phase where they were straight up trying to be The Prodigy (they even had Liam on a track), but even they couldn't hit Prodigy's highs. Their remix of Voodoo People's loving sick though, and was a blast to see live when I saw them play it in '09:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zspHh51AhoA

I wish I could see The Prodigy live one day. I saw Maxim do a DJ set at a festival a couple years ago but it was nothing like I imagine a Prodigy show is like.

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RalphORama
Apr 7, 2017


My first experience with The Prodigy was the use of Invaders Must Die in the Duke Nukem Forever reveal trailer when I was in 8th grade. I downloaded a bunch of Prodigy to listen to after hearing it, and it heavily defined my early highschool years.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


Here's something a bit... special? Unique?



TITAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EX2utx4EKY

Rediscovered a few years ago, it was found that Liam produced a brand new track in the Dirtchamber Sessions era (1999) by the name of Titan. What makes this track unique are the circumstances surrounding it - Liam produced it for a porno called The Uranus Experiment. No really. The NWS tags are there because the track contains some naughty sounds so you probably shouldn't blast it at full volume around other people (unless you record their reactions for the thread).

Here's an article about the track that's safe to read:

"Prodigy tries sex in space" posted:

Prodigy fans take note: Don't bother checking the record shops for Liam Howlett's next set of electro beats. You'll have better luck finding them in the adult section of your favourite video store.

Howlett, musical braintrust behind the hit U.K. techno outfit, recently teamed up with Massive Attack member 3-D to score scenes from an upcoming U.S. sci-fi porn flick called The Uranus Experiment -- Part Two.

"The film involves the first zero-gravity sex," Howlett enthuses over the phone last week from his London studio, the Dirtchamber. "They've spent loads of money on it and chartered these planes to fly on the edge of space and go into a controlled free-fall. Then they filmed zero-gravity sex. We get to do a track for it!"

Okay, so porn's first interstellar money-shot not withstanding, what's a nice, clean-cut mixmaster like Howlett doing dabbling in "this crazy film?"

"The producer approached me and Rob (3-D) 'cause he knew we were porn fans," Howlett says. "It's a bit of a laugh more than anything else, but because it's so original, I wanted to be a part of it.

"I'm not usually a fan of music on porno. Turn the volume down and get to it, I say. But when I saw this film, it almost had a certain class about it. When you say 'porno,' the first thing you think of is sleazy guitar and wah-wah pedal. This isn't like that at all. Floating around in space requires some different music. I've done something simple, but it will make a good first track for our album later. "

david_a
Apr 24, 2010


I remembered the news about him writing porn music but I didn't know any of the details. I thought he wrote an entire album, not just a single song.

Song seems pretty good from skipping through it.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


Here's an edit that's noticeably less sex-noisy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPHLmE9RgBQ

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


Two months to go!




Another middle of the road track for the middle of the album? Okay that's a bit harsh, it's pretty good, but not quite up to the standards the big hitters set. As user "remember" put it on renowned music review site ultratop.be: "Immer noch ziemlich cool".

ytisomauq
Dec 15, 2000


HJB posted:

Another middle of the road track for the middle of the album? Okay that's a bit harsh, it's pretty good, but not quite up to the standards the big hitters set.

That might be spot on, though. It's good enough you don't skip over it while the album is playing but not too great as you go and seek it out on it's own. It's been a while since I had listened to it that I needed a quick refresher to remember the song

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


This is a really good quote:

quote:

he Prodigy had peaked somewhere between the excellent Poison (1995) - the B-sides on Poison are as strong as anything found on their albums or singles - and Breathe (1996). By the time Fat of the Land came along, the band were already on the slide. It happens to some bands: the album that launches them to superstardom is usually on the back of the spadework of the previous album (Radiohead, The Bends). Fat… received such unworthy praise because there was guilt about being slow to pick up on what a ground-breaking album Jilted… actually was.

It is exactly how I feel about the album. Telling is that I still listen to Jilted but have never bother to listen to Fat again.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010


I can't say I disagree with that either. I'll have to check out the Poison single now...

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

I can't get enough of are Dan


Rat Poison / Scienide. To be fair they are comfortably their best B-sides. Anyway, since this thread has revived:




We're out of the woods in the middle and back in full brain engage mode. The subtle change to the name that emerged turned out to be pretty apt I'd say. The Jilted undertones combined with full Fat make for a good time. Rolling Stone magazine said of it: "Squelching synths bounce round each other on "Mindfields," creating a mesmerizing funk force field", and that description does me nicely. As a bonus, here's the Headrock Dub:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7bE-jTdLyY

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010



Definitely one more little reason why The Matrix was fantastic. That transition from the Dragula remix to Mindfields is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGKcWsYahAg#t=20s

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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011



Mierenneuker posted:

Definitely one more little reason why The Matrix was fantastic. That transition from the Dragula remix to Mindfields is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGKcWsYahAg#t=20s

That's the DJ just smashing the fader over they're not even beatmatched.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!


Mierenneuker posted:

Definitely one more little reason why The Matrix was fantastic.

Not being old enough to go to raves in that era of music still sucks. That entire soundtrack is fantastic.

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Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

We will fight them to the last. And we will defend those that cannot defend themselves. Today we fight, brothers and sisters. Today we stand up and never, ever relent. Brothers and sisters -- prepare yourselves. Today we go to WAR!


Lipstick Apathy

I was 18 when that record came out and 19 before I gave it serious attention. I don't think the Prodigy had the same effect on me as it did for a lot of people because I had already listened to a lot of electronic music (Skinny Puppy was already among my favorite groups, along with others ) but... because of this thread I listened to Fat again. It's still as good as it was when I first heard it.

Great record.

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