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RubiconCrosser posted:lol are you asking how the late-2000s fps games about fighting in the middle east could have insensitive depictions of things do you shoot some people really racistly or...?
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QuarkJets posted:FoldingIdeas makes a pretty good case for call of duty ghosts being racist in ways that aren't that subtle. He's the guy who made the viral video essay making GBS threads on NFTs right before the bottom fell out. His Ghosts video is primarily about it being a bad, rushed game but he raises some points about its story beats that are hard to ignore, it's worth a watch: people actually play the story in these games?
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:do you shoot some people really racistly or...? The entire pretense of the game’s setting is pretty racist. Like if I was playing a civil war shooter on the side of the confederacy I could be playing the same game mechanically as call of duty but we agree that it’s pretty racist right? You’re not this dense are you?
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Dec 11, 2025 22:30
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boop the snoot posted:The entire pretense of the game’s setting is pretty racist. so I'm being racist when I play the Germans in a WW2 game?
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Dec 11, 2025 22:45
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:so I'm being racist when I play the Germans in a WW2 game? I’ve ALWAYS thought it was weird that you could play as the Germans in a ww2 game.
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AlphaKeny1 posted:Hello dark souls thread. Get the remaster, the people saying the graphics are worse are blowing it way out of proportion, while casually brushing off the entire existence of multiplayer as being a thing. Plus, you'd need an external program to run it properly (PTDE) vs it just working out of the box (Remaster). I held off on getting it after a thousand+ hours in PTDE, myself, but seriously, it's fine.
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boop the snoot posted:The entire pretense of the game’s setting is pretty racist. You do realize that imperial Japan did a bunch of downright heinous things, right? Like, those were the guys that signed up with the literal Nazis as partners*. Yeah, the US doesn't exactly have clean hands either with the nukes, the firebombing, and the treatment of Japanese American citizens, but are you seriously suggesting people should feel bad because they're playing a character shooting soldiers of the country behind the Nanjing massacre?
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FoolyCharged posted:You do realize that imperial Japan did a bunch of downright heinous things, right? Like, those were the guys that signed up with the literal Nazis as partners*. Yeah, the US doesn't exactly have clean hands either with the nukes, the firebombing, and the treatment of Japanese American citizens, but are you seriously suggesting people should feel bad because they're playing a character shooting soldiers of the country behind the Nanjing massacre? I’m unsure which side you’re arguing for here. You can feel what you want but pretending a video game based on our actions in the Middle East contains no racism is ignorant.
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Dec 11, 2025 23:06
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boop the snoot posted:I’ve ALWAYS thought it was weird that you could play as the Germans in a ww2 game. i always wanted to roleplay as a meth head please don't judge
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Dec 11, 2025 23:13
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I got confused and thought you were getting upset at playing the Americans against the Japanese in World at War. My bad.
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FoolyCharged posted:You do realize that imperial Japan did a bunch of downright heinous things, right? Like, those were the guys that signed up with the literal Nazis as partners*. This is not relevant to the discussion but as a point of clarity I would like to point out that during WWII, Japan saw what the Nazis were doing and said "what is this baby poo poo? I'll show you some real war crimes." They were doing far more horrific things than the actual literal nazis were.
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Dec 12, 2025 00:26
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boop the snoot posted:I’ve ALWAYS thought it was weird that you could play as the Germans in a ww2 game. this is a strange take IMO should games like Axis and Allies just not exist? Someone has to play the Axis. How about Hearts of Iron IV? Should you not be allowed to play the countries that join the Axis? Even though you can go alternate history with those countries and join the Allies? How far does this go? How about SWAT 4? ACAB, after all. Should I not be able to play a Sith in SW:TOR? They're very fash coded.
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You never play as the Germans in a WWII FPS, tho 🤔 edit: I mean except multiplayer edit 2: also I haven't played a WWII FPS since Call of Duty 2; things may have changed since then
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What an incredibly silly argument
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deep dish peat moss posted:This is not relevant to the discussion but as a point of clarity I would like to point out that during WWII, Japan saw what the Nazis were doing and said "what is this baby poo poo? I'll show you some real war crimes." Probably the wrong thread but part of what makes the holocaust so horrifying was the industrial and logistical scale of it. But yeah Japan was really bad too. Its fair to say that they were both very bad. Anyway dark sou 
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I had this game called Panzer Commander when I was a kid and the Germans were OP as hell
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boop the snoot posted:I’m unsure which side you’re arguing for here. You can feel what you want but pretending a video game based on our actions in the Middle East contains no racism is ignorant. He’s trolling. That’s a copy paste from ADTRW.
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We dont have to point to people picking the germans in a multiplayer ww2 game because there were people actually trying to criticize wolfenstein for painting nazis in a bad light
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:Probably the wrong thread but part of what makes the holocaust so horrifying was the industrial and logistical scale of it. But yeah Japan was really bad too. Its fair to say that they were both very bad. Yes this is very true and I should have acknowledged it 
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signalnoise posted:there were people actually trying to criticize wolfenstein for painting nazis in a bad light boy you'd think that would have been mentioned in Masters of Doom, but there's not a word about it!
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stop fighting. the gamer awards are on
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:boy you'd think that would have been mentioned in Masters of Doom, but there's not a word about it! here you go https://www.theguardian.com/global/commentisfree/2017/oct/27/nazis-videogames-white-grievance-wolfenstein
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:this is a strange take IMO ngl you're getting weirdly defensive about this I used to play Axis and Allies in college and none of us ever wanted to play the Axis, we'd usually take turns or do rock-paper-scissors or something. I don't think it's weird to not like playing as The Nazis or as Imperial Japan in a video game. I think for most people it's much easier to play as a fictional "evil" side, like the Sith or like Japan in Red Alert 3, because those factions/characters don't represent crimes against humanity that were committed in real life. The evil dwarves in Total Warhammer have slaves but they're also cartoon characters, so playing them feels different than playing as a Confederate general in a game that's simulating the American Civil War. I never liked WW2 shooters, but I have to imagine that getting auto-assigned to the Nazis just means you're a conscript 
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galagazombie posted:DS2 Original DS2 still has its servers up on PC.
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I just watched the Total Warhammer 40k trailer and I think it's deeply funny that they're going to take the 40k setting and then have you use medieval-era formations and poo poo like any other total war game lol
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Goons calling each other weird is like a pot calling itself black
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QuarkJets posted:I just watched the Total Warhammer 40k trailer The name is a little dumber than that.
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