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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Eighty Seven posted:

Final Fantasy 7 had half-assed graphics, even for the time.

Sonic wasn't good before or after Sonic Adventure 2 on Dreamcast.

I came here to post pretty much these exactly. Not only were FF7's graphics really underwhelming 99% of the time, the sound was tinny crap. Why? They had three discs and no voice acting, why couldn't they use less awful music compression?

As for Sonic, yeah. The Genesis games were always fun for a zone or two so it was fun to pick up and play at a friend's house or whatever, but the later worlds were all designed so you couldn't really run at all. At that point it's like you're just playing an extended series of bad ice levels, since Sonic's inertia and wonky jumping made positioning hard. Adventure 2 really nailed the "flow" that Sonic games seemed like they should have, and the other characters' levels were fun too instead of the fishing and "go through the same level but with a worse character" stuff from Adventure.

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Blue Raider posted:

final fantasy 8 owned, legitimately

Seriously, yeah. It has its warts but I wish more big budget games were that weird.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Contrary to what that dude said a few pages ago Super Mario Land 2 is the best Mario game released in ages, probably until 3D Land or World (which both own so hard, seriously they're great). Yeah SML2 is hamstrung by the small screen but what it loses in sheer screen resolution it more than makes up for with character. Each level feels like a unique place instead of a different configuration of bricks against the same background - you end up running around in a whale's guts, climbing a giant tree from the inside, exploring a giant house, and fighting an alien in zero g in space. Also the music owns.

Super Mario Land 1 is also interesting and has unique seeming levels but it controls like poo poo and half the sprites are completely unrecognizable. Still, it's worth playing for the vehicle levels, because for whatever reason there were vehicle levels in that Mario game and they were way better than the regular levels.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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They should make a new Monster Rancher game, it would probably be the most use anyone got out of CDs and physical DVDs in a decade.

Star Fox Adventures was pretty decent and despite not being a "real" Star Fox game it's still better than every new Star Fox game that has come out since.

Ubisoft makes fantastic games that would be a lot better received if they let them stand on their own merits instead of pumping them full of so much lovely Uplay/social network integration that they look like Facebook games. They make some not-fantastic games too, but so does everybody.

Fallout: New Vegas was awful and the only reason people think it's so great is because it's incrementally better than FO3, which has one of the most staggeringly dumb main quests of any game ever. They're both fun games that I've played a ton but they're so deeply and obviously flawed that it's hard not to notice when you play. Also, the last scene of the vanilla game of FO3 is so fantastically stupid that whoever wrote it should have been fired. I have a guy immune to radiation right there, and you're talking to me about honor? In a Fallout game? It's astounding how badly they botched the theme and tone of the entire setting there - it's not about honor, it's about scrounging up enough poo poo to survive in a ruined, hostile world.

a bone to pick posted:

gently caress yeah, everything about 3 is better than 2.

The only bad part of 3 is the reprise of Air Man's fight and that's really 2's fault when it comes down to it. Also, the theme music for MM3 is the best song from any NES game.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Grevling posted:

I hope Half-Life 3 never gets made.

loving :same:

Half-Life 1 is so much better than the sequel in pretty much every way except the ending and the lack of Ravenholm. Even today I'll load up HL1 for a spin every once in a while but for HL2 I think of the early hoverboat section and go sit in a corner staring at a wall pondering what I've been doing with my life.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Morrowind would have aged fine if everything was just twice as big on the X and Y planes. Vvardenfell is super small (you can check this out easily with the Scrolls of Icarian Flight in the beginning) and so the move speed defaults to "baby learning to crawl with two broken legs". If it was bigger, you wouldn't cross the island in six minutes by walking at a normal pace, the default start speed could be raised, and it wouldn't feel like such an ancient game.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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One of the best Tony Hawk games was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 on the GBA.

Mario Kart, despite literally creating the genre, is a really bad kart racing franchise. As other posters have said, Crash Team Racing is like god-tier and I have no idea why stuff like that has never been done again.

Myst and its sequels are really good but so many games that try to ape their style just straight-up copy the puzzles with different symbology that I'm genuinely curious whether another good and original point n' click adventure can be made. As a huge fan of the Neverhood I preordered the gently caress outta Armikrog but while I love the art style and music I just kinda got bored. I think part of the problem is that these games really need a sort of overarching mythology to give you a reason to care. In Myst the plot (yeah, there is one) is that you open a book, it's got like a lil TV inside it, and when you touch it you fall through a rift in the stars and end up on the docks in Myst. You're trying to figure out what happened there and why. In Riven you're exploring an artificial world while trying to thwart the false god that created it. In the Neverhood, you wake up in a bizarre micro-universe and you're tasked with figuring out what your purpose is. In Armikrog....you crash landed somewhere and just start trespassing because what the hell else are you gonna do?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Zorodius posted:

There isn't a single good game on the Sega Genesis

Road Rash 2 was pretty sweet and the Genesis Jurassic Park games weren't half bad either.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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MageMage posted:

Capcom needs to cut the crap and make MegaMan Legends 3

jfc this holy poo poo


the only reason I didn't bring this up is because I post about mega man legends enough already

spudsbuckley posted:

Steam, as a storefront, is utter poo poo now. The sales aren't very good any more and 99.9% of the stuff on there is total garbage.

Sometime early last year I saw someone espousing this same opinion and I thought they were crazy. It turns out I just hardly ever actually checked out the storefront outside of sales. Good god it's just all garbage, indy garbage, and garbage with anime titties. It didn't used to be like this, right?

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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X4 > X5 but X5 is rad as well, yeah.

Agreed on X and 3.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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As bad as the cutscenes were in X4 they were still better than the misspelled unskippable text boxes in X5.

Plus there was that hilarious one where a fat man turns into Wolverine and slaughters a bunch of hideously ugly robots who inexplicably spew blood everywhere.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Blizzard makes very bad games. Very good Skinner boxes, but very bad games.


Overwatch is a lot of fun but even that is loaded with scheduled random rewards and microtransactions.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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fruit on the bottom posted:

Pfft. There's not even porn of the sexiest Overwatch character (Roadhog)

somewhere out there is a goon with a fourteen gig encrypted zip file ready to prove you wrong, i am making this post in hopes that they see it and reconsider

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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ROFL Octopus posted:

Mostly agree with this except zero time dilemma poo poo the bed in every conceivable way (especially frustrating because the midgame was epic as hell)

ZTD's ending is the only time I've felt straight-up insulted by a video game. gently caress that noise so hard.

Blazing Ownager posted:

I know this is the threads purpose but that is total heresy. Invisible War suuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

I wouldn't say it was better than HR but IW was actually pretty rad other than the (admittedly) crippling engine problems. The fact that the areas are so tiny forced them to be really well-designed for the most part, you don't get the freedom of approaching something from literally anywhere that you get from the original game but you get a series of cool stealth-action vignettes instead.

Plus the characters in IW were way better and more interesting than in the original.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Scornful Sexbot posted:

I have never completed the ocarina of time because it is boring and I don't enjoy it. I will never finish it but keep my cartridge for no real reason

I really enjoy the first three dungeons but then it's like you get to the Forest Temple and the game suddenly becomes a cure for insomnia.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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This is going to sound really, really, really dumb but I still don't own FO4 despite being pretty hype for it initially, all because the health bar in the UI looks like such absolute phoned-in poo poo that it was clear the game was going to have massive, fundamental problems throughout. I might grab it on sale sometime but after hearing some complaints about it I feel I made the right choice.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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RaySmuckles posted:

speaking of unpopular opinions, i really enjoyed Far Cry 3. its really fun to play for high scoring combos. namely, trying to find ways to combo entire settlements/assassinations in one go. projectile stuff was lame though and crafting was pretty lame. legendary beast quests were ok, not great, but not terrible.

edit: i guess i should say parts of FC3

As someone who played the intro to FC3 like two years ago, has never really touched another FC game other than an hour or two of the first one and maybe ten minutes of Blood Dragon, and is playing through it right now with no nostalgia for the game or the series whatsoever: Far Cry 3 is a really fun, really funny game, and I can't think of a game that does the open-world FPS thing better. The story missions are awesome, too. The crafting is dumb as hell but it's also trivially easy if you're going around capturing outposts and poo poo anyways, it's more of a check on whether you've visited a location than anything else until you get to the final unlocks with the quest requirements.

The intro sucks really bad, from what I remember of it. It probably is better in retrospect after playing the game for a while, since Jason and his friends are such unlikable douchebags off the bat and it's not until later that you kinda realize that that's part of the weird pseudo-satire Alice in Wonderland thing it has going on.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Maya Fey posted:

does anyone actually read the hundreds of in-game books/scrolls/notes etc. that you find lying around in wrpgs

Only in like, Morrowind, where they're usually funny or interesting. Luckily since Bethesda hasn't bothered writing really anything new for their lore despite their newer games taking place hundreds of years before Morrowind I never have to worry about reading a book in a WRPG again!

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Twelve Batmans posted:

King of Fighters XIV is currently the best fighting game out right now of this current gen.

I know they're not real words but it's astounding how your browser's autocorrect turned Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator into the name of a completely different series, wow!

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Twelve Batmans posted:

YRC's are dumb garbage and no Anji, Robo-Ky, or Bridget completely takes away any argument you have for Revelator being anything other than very pretty generic anime garbage.

Anji was scrub tier, I agree on Robo-Ky and Bridget but Revelator is seriously the best FG I've played in ages.


Pages and pages ago someone mentioned Buck Rogers RPGs and I'm sad that if they actually exist they're not on GOG.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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The F2P Fire Emblem game for phones is actually...pretty cool so far?

The Skeleton King posted:

I saw a street fighter tournament that was just two people crouching in corners shooting fireballs back and forth until someone got hit. Every time.

That's because Street Fighter is really, really bad.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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I Said No posted:

dagoth ur did nothing wrong

hell, agreed. the Tribunal is loving insane.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Space Crabs posted:

Nah, the most gameplay it provides will be the eventual meltdowns in the games thread when people that are inexperienced with gacha games get frustrated.

It's leagues better than pretty much every other gacha game I've played though (DBZ Dokkan, that Shadow Wars thing some idiot in PYF was going on about, etc).

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Hyrax Attack! posted:

The Simpsons Arcade is an interesting relic for fans of the show, but as a game is a below-average button masher. Especially when beat-em-up gems like Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Punisher, or Aliens v. Predator exist.

Yeah but the trippy dream level and Smithers as a goddamn suicide bomber were both really funny.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Space Crabs posted:

Spore is similar to Starbound where nerds built their own fantasy dream game and played imaginary GI Joes with it, putting the blame for them falling for marketing and hype on the people hyping the project instead of them believing it because they wanted to believe. The evil publisher said this game would be the second coming of Digital Jesus, he is a liar! And an rear end in a top hat! The game sucks!

Having known nothing about Spore it was a pretty good game and most of the people that constantly poo poo on it, to this day are either opinion groupies that want to poo poo on something because other people poo poo on it or are nerds that can't face their child like imaginations being the problem with them constantly being disappointed in life.

see also: No Man's Sky, which is a pretty cool game for what it is

e: the multiplayer thing was kind of a drag though

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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G-III posted:

With the exception of metal dear solid 1, xenogears, and soul blade, the Sega Saturn had better games than the PSX

Reported for trolling.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Games were far more interesting and unique when developers couldn't fall back on consoles/PCs having more computing power than a goddamn space station and had to work within stricter limitations. I'm not saying they were necessarily better, but it sure seemed like there was a lot more variety and weird stuff getting churned out there.

e: this is obviously the niche that indie games often try to fill, but so many indie games are soooo poorly programmed because the devs have no idea what's actually happening in memory

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Mario Kart 8 had a couple really cool tracks but still sucks rear end for the lame excuse of a battle mode.


Diddly Kong Racing was way worse than CTR because the N64's graphics were garbage and the tracks looked lame.

There should be a sequel to Bomberman Fantasy Race because that game was crazy weird.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

incredibly persnickety achievements like the non-lethal run in Deus Ex HR.

The only reason this is hard at all is because HR is a poorly programmed piece of poo poo that often decides that a tranq dart is enough to straight kill a dude. In the first mission where you rescue the hostages when you go through the warehouse part there's a dude smoking a cigarette off to the side and I've never been able to knock him out without the game just going "haha he's dead now." If the game worked right it would be easy as hell, even the intro (where it doesn't make any sense at all thematically not to kill the guys, but it still counts for the achievement for some reason) is set up so you can just kinda waltz through it without ever getting seen.

bag em and tag em posted:

Collect all the hidden documents!

1 document is in a room that you can never return to 50% of the way through the game.

gently caress THAT

This is so awful. I'm not even against missable items generally but don't tie that poo poo back to an achievement.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Space Crabs posted:

On Missable Items:

However good people think Final Fantasy 12 was the game was seriously hindered by the Zodiac Weapon for the gay twink fuckboy requiring you to not open 12 random chests located randomly throughout the game. Some of them were in the initial areas where of course you are going to open a chest. Nope. If you opened any of those 12 specific chests, out of dozens scattered throughout the game, you could no longer get the gay twink fuckboy's ultimate weapon.

Adding something like that in that is completely impossible to know without a guide is a serious mark against the game.

I'm pretty sure you could still get it, it was just like a 1/1000 drop from a rare chest or something instead of a sure thing - so really, doing it the way you're describing could be seen as a bonus rather than the intended path. Definitely still a dick move but it's not like it was necessary to beat the game and I've always been a fan of super weird convoluted systems like that.

The best part is that it's not 12 chests that you're supposed to avoid, it's only four - but one of those four is randomly selected from a group of 16 chests, so gently caress you for trying to open them.

E: I should clarify that I'm a fan of this stuff *in theory*, this particular case is just a lovely way to try to force people to buy the strategy guide (which didn't have much information other than links to a dead website, haha)

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Twelve Batmans posted:

King of Fighters XIV is currently the best fighting game out right now of this current gen.

This was aaaages ago and idk if this poster is still around but hey dude without PMs: is XIII any good? It's on sale on Steam right now and I kinda want to take the plunge.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Shadow the Hedgehog was a fun game with really cool ideas about structure, there were like 30 levels but a full playthrough would only hit 6 or something based on your actions and so there was always more to check out.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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fruit on the bottom posted:

I guess my unpopular opinion is that Bioshock Infinite was…good?

I understand why people might not like it, but I agree. The art direction and sound design in particular are outstanding and I'm glad it wasn't a third trip to Rapture.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Homestar Runner posted:

^ the casino level in Sonic 2 is really good

the boss sucks though and you had to listen to the whole song in the options menu if you wanted to make sure the sound test level select cheat worked, which you would, because sega couldn't figure out the battery backup saves that nintendo had had since the NES lol

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

We're not talking about games in general, but specifically the Bioshock franchise. Having player actions determine outcome was a big part of the earlier games, and they pissed it away on a single lobotomized paradoxical ending for Infinite.

Ah yes, the tough ethical decision of "should I kill these little girls for no reason or take the option for people who are not Hitler which is mechanically and morally better in every way". Such a deep franchise, wow. Makes u think

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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My unpopular opinion is that the first Bioshock sucked dogshit in every area except visuals even when it came out, and one of the best things to come from the series other than Infinite is the Big Daddy character in the lovely Sony Playstation Super Smash Bros. knockoff since Bioshock didn't even release on the PS3 until over a year after the PC/360 version. Sony is so low on mascots they brought in characters from third party games known for being on other systems.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

Oh, fer gently caress's sake, I think presenting hyperbolic strawman moralizing about how the game handles hypodermic-wielding zombie children with superpowered cyborg sidekicks is really getting into derail territory. Pretty sure you have expressed an unpopular videogame opinion by doing it, though, so I will give you that.

How is it a hyperbolic argument? The children are of literally no threat to you when you have the option of how to deal with them, you either slaughter them for mild rewards or save them for objectively better rewards up to and including a better ending. The choice is completely illusory, which they could have played with in fun ways with the Andrew Ryan reveal, but they didn't.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

I'm waiting for DOOM 2016 to go on sale again so have to reserve judgement on that one.

DOOM is dumb as hell and way over the top but it knows and embraces it with ridiculous glory kills and a (fantastic) buttrock soundtrack. I happen to really enjoy the hell out of it but it's easy to see why people might not.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Das Butterbrot posted:

windwaker is the best zelda by a big margin. beautiful artstyle that still looks great when you play the hd version

I did this last year, I haven't beaten it yet (or admittedly even gotten very far) but it is a gorgeous game and very fun to play.

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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

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Bodyholes posted:

Super Smash Bros Melee is deeper and more technical than Guilty Gear

Melee is fun but calling it technical is a laugh and all of its biggest proponents are weirdo dorks like this guy.

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