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Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received
Delta Stream not working on nuclear is something I can forgive, because nothing has delta stream normally and its presence is somewhat confusing. Nothing uses ORAS abilities. Why add them?

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Gaffle
Aug 23, 2013

sWAg

Pokemon Essentials team adds all the stuff from ORAS into Essentials. They probably hard-code Delta Stream resistances because it's simple to do so.

Uranium guy downloads the new Pokemon Essentials release to add some new thing to his game, and Delta Stream comes with it. He's implemented his nuclear type long before now, and making it work rules-as-written with Delta Stream means he would have to alter Delta Stream's ability code. It would be a very simple hard-code fix, but why would he care, or even think to fix an ability that isn't used in his game at all? It's not an issue.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
I'm really gonna go ahead and guess that it's supposed to be coded as 'if SE, then nullify' and that Pokemon Uranium is not accurate to The Real World.

Sorites
Sep 10, 2012

Bogart posted:

I'm really gonna go ahead and guess that it's supposed to be coded as 'if SE, then nullify' and that Pokemon Uranium is not accurate to The Real World.

No, it's type dependent. Otherwise Mega Rayquaza would lose its Dragon weakness.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

A strange man is here and talking like he's very familiar with Good Human Hokage Dick Solomon!


Just kidding, it's Theo.

Wait, Theo!? He looks like he's 20! How long have I been lost in that ice cave?!

Just compare his two sprites.



And the game claims it's just an outfit change?


Other gyms just give TMs and event flags, but this one also gives a real special thing. The 6th generation Pokemon games gave mega evolution about 1/3 to 1/2 through, so it's kinda weird for Uranium to shoot so close to the end. But then again I've had the Gyaradosite for a while so maybe it knew what I'd do...?


A guy runs out to inform that this gym is taken two at a time.


But we're split up until the leader.

What happens if someone drops out early, is the other person doomed? Nothing in this gym really shows that it's supposed to be done by two at a time. It's mostly just an excuse for Theo to also get to mega evolve things.


It has five rooms that range from braindead simple to annoying in all the wrong ways.


The Power Glove does it just right. Kinda weird how no one but the Tinkerer acts like it's possible to use the HMs' field functions without having a Pokemon learn the move. Almost as if it's a disparate part of the game bolted on at some point in its nine-year development cycle that wasn't accounted for in the editing.


It just so happens that this trial tests a quality with the same name as its solution. There isn't a trial of Surf.


Surprise! Another boulder puzzle. This one is annoying because you can't see the third row without comitting on the first, which might screw you up.


Afterwards is this guy who uses a bunch of easily-bested dragons.


Trico evolves into its second form by happiness. A bunch of drugs and then the experience share get him there real fast.


After that is the Dawn Stone and he's a full-fledged Luxelong. Unlike a lot of Uranium things, it has a reasonable BST distributed reasonably, and fairy/dragon's offensive and defensive presence with Wish and Baton Pass give it a few tricks.


The second trial is...


A maze. Next!


The trainers have different colors. I don't know why.


...A 3-legged electric buzzard.

Weird for an electric/flying thing to be in a gym with an ice/dragon leader, but ok.


Adaptability, and not the ability.


By adaptability they mean not telling you that you need an HM for this in advance despite naming Strength in advance.


Not even another Tracton can stop MEGAWEAPON!


The fourth trial is forcing school children to pray to Allah 7 times daily.


Just kidding it's another "push a button to see a path light up" thing like Sheldon's gym.


Except it is infinitely more windy and complicated and failing requires going through the first! And this is still RPG Maker XP forced to run Pokemon so movement still isn't precise.


Thank gently caress these games let you save everywhere, eh?


...Yeah sure, that's intimidating. It was weird when a cutie like Shinx does it, but this is just kinda stupid.


Well there's the instructions.


Not sure if there's a trick involved but there's no reason to not just hold up.


That's how I have been doing it, so this is no big deal.


Okay, no items is one thing, but clearly you aren't even using a Pokemon.

Guess the typing: it's Ghost/Fire


Having passed the trials, we□re allowed to challenge the gym leader.


Foreshadowing: there will be at least one trainer with mega evolution who is not pure of heart and filled with determination.


The way he yells about it, you'd think he's a dragon specialist through and through.


The antlers and the fur around his shoulders really resembler fafurr's so maybe the ice/dragon thing was planned from the start.

OFSelects: Converge - Jane Doe


Maybe it's just me, but his key stone staff is somewhat obviously added to an already existing sprite, both for the vs splash and here.


Unlike prior gym leaders, this is a partner battle, and Theo finally has a full team of six.


Zapnap's electric return takes out the Glavinug instantly. This battle is in constant hail, just thought I'd bring that up.




Play Rough is the sole physical fairy move, but it's decent enough. That 90% accuracy is painful through and through, though.


Then Nimflora gets punted with Skyfall.


Theo's sixth member is his own Nucleon. It's the only member of his team that doesn't change depending on starter, actually.


Zapnap's Rock Slide does a number to both opponents.


And Theo's Nucleon has Hyper Voice.

Devs Knew.


Pfft, okay sure maybe Fafurr's evolved form Fafninter is pretty beefy-looking, but-


Oh.

Well then.

Vaeyrn's Fafninter has Fur Coat, so besides its massive 590 BST, it is halving all physical damage. It's tough as beans.


MEGAWEAPON takes out the Anderind, to prevent it from doing anything with its Ground STAB.


Vaeryn's last Pokemon is a doofy little Ampharos, but he doesn't say this in jest.


When a trainer has a key stone, and their Pokemon holds a corresponding mega stone, some poo poo can go down.


The Ampharos is enveloped in massive light and-


...well okay Mega Ampharos wasn't meant to be a sprite and it wasn't meant to look angry. But it has Mold Breaker to go through abilities and Electric/Dragon typing.


All other things equal, Iron Head is better to use than Dragon Calw because of the flinch chance. Fafninter probably would've caused problems if it got to do something.


Mega Ampharos has a 165 base special attack, so its Thunderbolts blow straight through Theo's Vilucard.


MEGAWEAPON finishes off the Fafninter on the next turn, leaving Mega Ampharos alone.




Dragon Pulse, like Dragon Claw, is a move with no side effects and a relatively meh power. But, you know, 165 base special attack.


Duke Nukem prods its x4 weakness to Nuclear and obliterates it in a Hyper Beam, and with that, Dick Solomon and Friend have triumphed. A total slugfest, to be sure.




An Uranium-original move, it sounds extremely strong, but Uranium's dragons are the kind that want to throw giant haymakers immediately or buff themselves, rather than use a weak move to make the next hit harder.


More importantly, the power of Mega Evolution!


Theo picks his Archilles, but instead of being forced to take our starter's stone, we get to choose. Thing is, every mega evolution I want to use but one is available before the post-game elsewhere, and in fact I have most of them.


The exception is Syrentide. But you get a free mega stone of whatever you pick here, so Porkyus gets the nod.


So rather than having to wait for her's, or just not showing it, I get it much earlier.


Oh, and the rival also got a superpower.


Of course we have to throw down right here, right now.


Just. New. Clothes.


When you've met the conditions, this icon appears in the corner. Press Z before selecting a move to unleash the power. You only get one a battle, but you can have as many things holding mega stones at once as you want.


Mega Archilles is much faster - fastest non-inflagetah lifeform in Tandor - and has a boost to its Special Attack to match getting Drought as an ability. But the ambient hail takes priority, it seems.


Porkyus becomes even more loving indestructible. And her special attack becomes pretty good too. Nothing to her attack and speed, but, did we ever care about those?


She shrugs off a STAB Earthquake and OHKOs back. 98/128/158 defenses do that.


Her ability is now Pixilate, which turns Normal moves into Fairy. Certainly not as busted as Atomizate, but as anyone who's tried 6th gen OU can attest, pixilated Hyper Voices are no joke.


Not even STAB Giga Drains can take her down.


It takes weather's fixed damage to finally get her.


Nucleon takes down Chainite and gets into a mirror match, but...


The AI script only sees the damage off of 130 BP and not that it hasn't met the condition (I know because I looked at the AI script) so it does nothing while Duke Nukem gets to it.


Yeah go straight and gently caress invisible mazes. Eat poo poo I'm just gonna use my new superpower frivolously.

Incidentally...


The power of Mega Evolution is activated by the bond of trust between trainer and Pokemon. Rad Pokemon can still mega evolve, even though they're feral killing machines barely restrained from trying to kill their own trainer.

Jade Rider
May 11, 2007

All the pages have been censored except for "heck," and she misread that one.


Silverport's clothing store must be in a time rift or something, geez.

GirlCalledBob
Jul 17, 2013
Surprisingly, Mega-Archilles doesn't look like poo poo. I'm impressed.

Letting you pick your mega stone seems like it kind of misses the whole point of having the starters mega evolve, though. But then waiting so late to be able to mega-evolve means that you already have quite a lot of stones anyway, which also feels like a balance issue.

Sure, Theo, new clothes. That's all.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
Just a random question that has no importance whatsoever.
Do you still have a nuclear Arbok? :getin:

krisslanza
May 6, 2011
What the heck kind of clothes store did Theo shop at?!
Also I think calling him "Friend", is a stretch :colbert:

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received
Oh since we'll never see it properly (since PUSSYMASHER is dead):



Metalynx's entire animation cycle since I didn't want to edit it, as context for:



Mega Metalynx.

It gets Heatproof, putting fire damage at x2 instead of x4.

Instead of the strictly better Flash Fire or Thick Fat, it just has one of its weaknesses made less bad. Yay?

XavierGenisi
Nov 7, 2009

:dukedog:

Something annoying about this gym is that from the beginning until you reach the gym leader, you can't run off back to the pokemon center and heal. So like, if you're getting screwed by the lovely experience curve (or that hold item glitch like TieTuesday was), you're gonna have to redo the gym, repeating the same trials until you reach the gym leader. Or go grind off of the route before hand for a million years.

Dr. Dos
Aug 5, 2005

YAAAAAAAY!
Why does their mega ampharos sprite have fingers

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

It looks like they changed Theo's sprite so they could use the copy paste animation of throwing the Pokeball for the double battle, since he's too small otherwise and that would involve making a new animated sprite woaaaaaaah.

Or maybe this journey is longer than you realize and you actually left your house like 2 years ago.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Dr. Dos posted:

Why does their mega ampharos sprite have fingers



Huh. Good question.


Crosspeice posted:

It looks like they changed Theo's sprite so they could use the copy paste animation of throwing the Pokeball for the double battle, since he's too small otherwise and that would involve making a new animated sprite woaaaaaaah.

He was a partner for Comet Cave, so they already had a partner sprite for that.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Nine freakin' years - you'd think that'd have been enough time to fix sprite proportions so they don't look like complete and utter crap
Theo's revamp looks awful, although I do prefer his tweaked VS sprite over his original

Rainuwastaken
Oct 30, 2012

Another blue ribbon for Hecarim.
Wow, they really did not like the grass starter one bit, huh?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Theo clearly went to shop in the same place that Rydia learned how to Summon. :shrug:

bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010
Correction to your update, OFS: kids are forever to pay to Allah 5 times a day. 6 onwards is the kid doing their own thing.

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

Vinylshadow posted:

Nine freakin' years - you'd think that'd have been enough time to fix sprite proportions so they don't look like complete and utter crap
Theo's revamp looks awful, although I do prefer his tweaked VS sprite over his original

It took nine years, and this game is hard, so maybe Theo aged :downs:

gently caress if I know.

I kinda like Mega Metalynx (even if I can't see the animation, or it's that subtle). Yeah, it's edgy as gently caress, but the entire line looks like a solid Pokémon out of all of the starters. Except for the whole Mega evolution thing these guys have going for them.

The Golux
Feb 18, 2017

Internet Cephalopod



Dinictus posted:

I kinda like Mega Metalynx (even if I can't see the animation, or it's that subtle).

The Mega doesn't animate.

The Golux fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Apr 21, 2017

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Dinictus posted:

It took nine years, and this game is hard, so maybe Theo aged :downs:

gently caress if I know.

I kinda like Mega Metalynx (even if I can't see the animation, or it's that subtle). Yeah, it's edgy as gently caress, but the entire line looks like a solid Pokémon out of all of the starters. Except for the whole Mega evolution thing these guys have going for them.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

bman in 2288 posted:

Correction to your update, OFS: kids are forever to pay to Allah 5 times a day. 6 onwards is the kid doing their own thing.

I thought the fearmongering tweet was 7 times but it was 5. I'm going to claim 7 anyway as that's the thing to do.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Jade Rider posted:

Silverport's clothing store must be in a time rift or something, geez.

Dick Solomon clearly got Rip van Winkled in the ice cave.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

I think I had that Beast Wars toy

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

I may have terrible opinions about what may or may not constitute a Good Design in Pokémon :v:

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012
I'm kind of glad I stopped playing just before this area. It looks terrible.

Crosspeice
Aug 9, 2013

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

He was a partner for Comet Cave, so they already had a partner sprite for that.

You think I have room to remember anything that happens in this game past the most recent update?

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Crosspeice posted:

You think I have room to remember anything that happens in this game past the most recent update?

You'd better, I still have so many chekov's guns still on the mantle. He's all like, "where are my many guns?"

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Here in my car
I feel safest of all
I can lock all my doors
It's the only way to live
In cars

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

You'd better, I still have so many chekov's guns still on the mantle. He's all like, "where are my many guns?"

Chekov's Armory; Consisting Primarily of Poorly Thought Out Plot Points

krisslanza
May 6, 2011

The Unlife Aquatic posted:

Chekov's Armory; Consisting Primarily of Poorly Thought Out Plot Points

One of these Plot Points which is so important, it's entirely optional, and changes absolutely nothing for getting it! :v:

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
They say that clothes make the man Theo.

That doesn't mean they actually do that.

Why did they actually do that.

Cattail Prophet
Apr 12, 2014

So what happens if you don't have anything in your party that can mega evolve here? Do you just get screwed out of the free stone?

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

It gets Heatproof, putting fire damage at x2 instead of x4.

Instead of the strictly better Flash Fire or Thick Fat, it just has one of its weaknesses made less bad. Yay?

Hey now, Heatproof isn't totally obsolete! It's the only one of those abilities that halves burn damage! :downs:

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Luxelong looks like a dragon corgi

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY
So, the odds that kid Theo and teen Theo are from different stages in development that they just duct taped together are...?

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Cattail Prophet posted:

So what happens if you don't have anything in your party that can mega evolve here? Do you just get screwed out of the free stone?

I'm curious about this as well; with how "good" the game has seemed in past updates, I wouldn't be surprised if it soft-locks you into a "pick which pokemon" menu.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Raserys posted:

So, the odds that kid Theo and teen Theo are from different stages in development that they just duct taped together are...?

it's possible they wanted to convey character growth but not have a clue how to do that organically, but yeah its pretty likely two different concepts for theo just got smushed together terribly

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Nihilarian posted:

Luxelong looks like a dragon corgi
That'd actually be a pretty awesome design if done right


Uranium's version kinda looks like a younger Drampa

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Rainuwastaken posted:

Wow, they really did not like the grass starter one bit, huh?

I like how they didn't actually put flowers on it, they just made its skin pattern be a grandma couch print. The final insult.

Dragonwagon
Mar 28, 2010


And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.
Congratulations! Your Theo evolved into Teeno!

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Oh since we'll never see it properly (since PUSSYMASHER is dead):



Metalynx's entire animation cycle since I didn't want to edit it, as context for:



Mega Metalynx.

It gets Heatproof, putting fire damage at x2 instead of x4.

Instead of the strictly better Flash Fire or Thick Fat, it just has one of its weaknesses made less bad. Yay?

I could have sworn it had Flash Fire. Was it changed at some point?

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hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



Now that the Persona 3 LP has started, I keep of thinking of that Theo when people are mentioning this Theo.

This would be a much better game if the rival was P3P!Theo.

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