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Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

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BrianBoitano posted:

Anybody have a good summary of gym fighting these days? Might be nice in the OP, since some people are likely to come back after a long hiatus for gen 2 and not know about cp scaling.

Hilariously, but not surprisingly, the official niantic FAQ doesn't mention level scaling or how training prestige is based on the strongest poke you pick.

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/gym-combat-mechanics

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Gen 2 is live!

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Heathen posted:

There's been a reliable Squirtle spawn in my shop's parking lot since the beginning. I figured that would get swapped out with the new water starter. Nope. Just a bunch of Wooper. I like the little bacon burnout Swinub does to avoid the ball.

:wooper:

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SuperKlaus posted:

Was there a stealth move rebalancing? My Blissey rolled Psychic as a single bar charge move for 100. Psychic used to be a two bar charge move for 55, right? So says pogomoves.com.

Yeah, lots of moves have changed. I managed to get a gym battle in before the servers went poo poo. Pound is USELESS now and Wigglytuff got nerfed harder.

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Larvitar / Pupitar seems semi common, so catch them before Niantic realizes they hosed up again

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So glad I didn't trash my Twister Gyarados

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Gyarados can now get Dragon Tail and Outrage

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Walking my 84% Larvitar.

Blissey is a BEAST. Impossible to prestige against.

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mastershakeman posted:

how the gently caress do people have 3000+ cp tyranaowhatsits in gyms already

A perfect catch would be around that high. I saw someone get a 2700 Tyranitar off a lure.


Cowslips Warren posted:


Seriously what takes down a blissey? I always time out!

Dazzling Gleam Blissey will counter Dragonite, Tyranitar and Machamp. I doubt Alakazam has enough stamina to defeat Blissey in time.

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Yeah, I got 10 candy off Pupitar

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If you started a new game, would you have a choice of all 6 starters?

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List of legacy moves and new moves
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/5uiwpu/gen_2_release_centralized_facts/

Looks like Dodrio and Kingler might not be trash anymore.

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Seems like my Karate Chop / Cross Chop Machamp might be better on defense now.

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Sprite Based posted:

Snorlax with Zen Headbutt and Body Slam is pretty much the ne plus ultra of gym defenders now. I was trying to prestige against one earlier, and it managed to get off four (!) Body Slams in a row.

If you have one, max it out ASAP because it's an absolute beast of a defender.

I have two 98's maxed out at level 38 (I'm 36)

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In order to max out my 91 Larvatar, I will need 311 candy and 183000 dust.

I have 145 and 45000

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Entropist posted:

It's scandalous that Octillery does not learn Octazooka :colbert:

Remoraid evolving into Octillery is confusing.

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Gengar is good now
https://pokemon.gameinfo.io/en/pokemon/list/top-attackers?legacy

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Divine Styler posted:

Hopefully this dude will get through a blissey before timing out, once I level him up a bit. My old 2100 CP karate chop/cross chop isn't doing the trick.



ETA: Just noticed Bubble got nerfed. Glad I wasted so much candy leveling up my Poliwrath .

My 2500 karate chop / cross chop is BARELY doing the trick.

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Willsun posted:

Arcanine (better fire option against enemy Exeggutor because Arcanine has Bite, a dark type move, which Flareon doesn't have).

Egg is weak to fire, so Arcanine with Fire Fang is the better option due to stab.

Flareon has new moves, Fire Spin and Overheat. That's the combo you're looking for.

Keep in mind, Charizard has a double resistance to grass while Houndoom is resistant to Egg's psychic and grass moves.

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NickBlasta posted:

The rich get richer
In my experience, Dragonite and Tyranitar only spawn where rich people live.

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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:

I had an idea some time ago that it would be great if they allowed you to change specific pokemon candy into "type candy", like lets say 10 Growlite candies turn into 1 fire candy that can be used for any fire type. Where the idea fell apart was strong dual type pokemon, since grinding up Pidgies to power up Dragonites would be absurd.

Or grinding Pidgey candy for Snorlax candy

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You were also able to multi tap to power up. Some people out there with Level 40.5 Pokemon.

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Would be great if there were more pure grass types. At least get stab on Sludgewave.

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Is Mareep common anywhere?

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drat, I was gonna go to a Wobbuffet nest. It's now Dunsparce.

I've already caught 100 Snubbull.

I miss Zubats. I accidentally trash evolved them during my last lucky egg spree. Crobat will take a long while.

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Krinkle posted:

Scizor is so incredibly good at killing trees.

Not sure which Scyther I want to evolve:
L31 89% - Fury Cutter / X-Scissor
L20 91% - Fury Cutter / X-Scissor
L10 98% - Fury Cutter / Bug Buzz

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Away all Goats posted:

Came across a pair of gyms with two Tyranitar sitting at the top of each. Both Tyranitar were owned by the same person :psyduck:

I'm sitting on 300 Larvitar candy, and I go only 1/4 as hard as other people I know.

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Joose Caboose posted:

How can that even be possible at this point without a nest?

Der Meister posted:

Explain yourself.

Mustached Demon posted:

Who did you murder?


My area still has a twitter feed. Also, that double candy berry is great.

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Dr Tran posted:

Not sure which Scyther I want to evolve:
L31 89% - Fury Cutter / X-Scissor
L20 91% - Fury Cutter / X-Scissor
L10 98% - Fury Cutter / Bug Buzz

I picked the L20 91%
I got Fury Cutter and Iron Head, 1583CP. Stab moves on both, yay. Ready to see if this guy can prestige against Blissey or if I have to go to Texas for a Heracross.

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Sebadoh Gigante posted:



Really though, there's only one snorlax, and the only thing that's similar is slaking, who has ridiculously high stats across the board, but can only attack every other turn.

https://veekun.com/dex/gadgets/compare_pokemon?pokemon=snorlax&pokemon=slaking

They hosed up with Wobbuffet, there's no loving way they'll get Slaking right.

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Skarmory has the best attack animation

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Olothreutes posted:

That's pretty bad.

I wish I had evolved my giant growlithe before the update, because it came out with snarl and wild charge. All my previous ones are fire fang and either flame thrower or fireblast. Another one I evolved got snarl and fireblast, so that isn't too bad.

2nded. I never thought Arcanine could get worse than Bite / Bulldoze.

Snarl and Wild Charge is interesting. With Gen2, it seems like a lot of Pokemon have moves that cover weaknesses.

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All trades over Bluetooth. Problem solved.

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LumpyGumby posted:

Someone keeps taking down a tower I'm in and then doesn't put a Pokemon in, they just leave it blank. They don't do this with any of the other nearby towers, including the ones I'm in. Pretty sure they're spoofing it too.

Valor is doing this to all my gyms.

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AlphaKretin posted:

How do you know it's Valor if they don't take the gym? :confused:

There's one red gym in the area and it was untouched when I drove by.

You know how in school, if one kid doesn't admit to wrongdoing, the whole class suffers?

I'll be clearing out every red gym

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I've now hatched more Larvitars and Mareep than Dratinis (one of each, zero Drats)

Today I prestiged a gym and got my spot sniped. On top of that, T-Mobile is absolute poo poo in Phoenix, so I couldn't make another spot before I had to leave.

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Snorlax: Rhydon was pretty useful as a counter. Wigglytuff was my favorite to prestige with vs Snorlax, so Heavy Slam throws that out the window. Also throws out Tyranitar as a prestiger / attacker. Dragonite supremacy.
Machamp: I don't like Counter. I could get two Karate Chops between moves, but only one Counter. I'll need more practice.
Gyarados: I have the candies and a candidate for a new one. Whee!

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Lucky Egg results this morning:

My 100 Gyarados got Bite / Crunch. I named it PerfectDark

My 96 Tyranitar got Bite / FireBlast. Ugh.

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AirRaid posted:

You say that but I agree. A defending pokemon's moveset isn't really going to change my approach, just that maybe my attacker will lose 75% of its HP instead of 50%. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it and that defender is still gonna go down.

I see it as this gym will take me 50 minutes to take down by myself if the defenders have poor movesets versus 60 minutes with good movesets.

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boy are my arms tired posted:

Hatched an igglybuff. Haven't checked IVs yet but its cute

How worthwhile is wigglytuff for gym battles?

Only good for gym prestige. Pound / Hyperbeam or Pound / Play Rough are the movesets you're looking for.

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