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Oh gently caress yes sign me up
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How many people is this game again?
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Feb 25, 2017 04:10
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:gonna go ahead and be confirmed town because: Gonna go ahead and tell you that you're not because that's my role on too.
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Feb 28, 2017 17:51
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Either that or we both are.
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Feb 28, 2017 17:52
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Whoops quoted the wrong post but yeah mine says nothing about being town aligned either, just the win condition matches. Anyways driving home from work and gonna pass out for a bit.
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Feb 28, 2017 17:53
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Pretty sure we oughta ignore this role PM crap and do this instead: ##Vote Tired Moritz because that was a scummy post.
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Feb 28, 2017 20:12
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How's that? I figure he is as well, but how do you know?
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Feb 28, 2017 20:51
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Tired Moritz posted:he only has info that townies would have, duh That's a dumb line of thinking. Do you not think mafia would receive a fake role PM just in case? Especially considering that the mod gave townies a different PM than was in the OP. It makes more sense that he'd copy/paste it to all of us and then also into the mafia role PM. It's not like mods fuckin' hand write every single role pm for a generic role with a quill pen and ink well, and only send it out on the finest parchment. Qualifications - look at the games list on votefinder and search my name. And then also know I did this before votefinder was a thing.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:22
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To clarify - I think it's highly likely he's town. I also know as scum, were I to receive that in my role PM, if I had the chance I'd be the first one to make nearly that exact same post. Chances are he is town both numbers wise and the fact that I don't know if many scum would be so quick to make that post, but I think it is more likely than not that he is town. On top of that, I think your post is phrased scummily and I think you being so quick to write him off as town is scummy. Calling people town is an easy thing to fall back on as scum.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:26
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It's an issue of, "I think he's town because he made that post and also the manner he wrote it in. I am not so quick to write him off as town entirely and all but claim him confirmed due to the fact of everything I just said." I think that summarizes my thoughts nicely.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:28
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Tired Moritz posted:I don't know, I think you might be overthinking. like this is such a small game, would the mafia really be given a fake pm? Lol that's not a hint bro. He outright said it. And if the mod changed poo poo, why wouldn't he? Laziness sure, not to throw the mod under the bus, but yeah he could leave the OP as is and all and say, "gently caress it" to the scum, but... It's wiser to be cautious as town than totally accepting of any and every claim ever. That's just basic logic.
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Feb 28, 2017 21:35
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Usually when the mod puts the VT description in the OP, they don't give scum fakeclaims. Thoughts on Tired Moritz? And yes, I acknowledge that they usually don't send the scum new role PMs. Again, I maintain my stance that until I see a card flip on a player, I'm not going to call them confirmed town. In addition, I hold in suspicion those who automatically refer to someone as "sure" town. That's an easy stance to take on a player. And no, once the first one or two people have responded, you can no longer "break" the game. In a small game like this that's helpful, for sure, but...
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Feb 28, 2017 21:56
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:This pings me a little. The description in the OP talks about eliminating scum, but the actual role PM doesn't mention them. I agree on hearing from everyone. I have my vote down as pressure. I'm off work for the rest of today, so I can remove it if necessary. If someone else has someone they think is worth looking at, I think it's worth them putting a vote on, but I think only one vote on a suspect is the way to go. That is to say, I don't think anyone should add another vote to Tired Moritz. Also, where in what he said mention scum? If you could expand on what you're saying I'd appreciate it.
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Feb 28, 2017 22:25
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Maybe I was reading into him too much, but when he says "I have a pro town win condition so I am town" it makes me think of the sample VT role PM in the OP, where it's mentioned that scum need to be eliminated. I would agree with that assessment, that's why I voted him as well. (As I said)
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Mar 1, 2017 00:37
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this is a stickup posted:this is a strange post. my pm says eliminate threats, which would be a pro-town win condition, and you of all people should know tm posts things like that all the time. Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. It's why I asked him to expand on it. I agree the phrasing in it seems awkward, but Tobb's response seems just as awkward in both his response to me asking him about Moritz and his response to me asking for clarification. Part of me has me wondering if that's just because he got put on the spot though. I don't really know any of you, so, I have no meta. I'd appreciate your thoughts on both of them. And if they have any thoughts on you that'd be cool too.
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Mar 1, 2017 02:51
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Tired Moritz posted:idk I interpreted my win con as very pro-town. Like there's no other way to read it other than pro-town. What is your win con? Also hf chaoslord the gently caress. Any thoughts on tired moritz or tobbs?
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Mar 1, 2017 16:42
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Nobody's here to lynch are they.
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Mar 1, 2017 16:48
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chaoslord posted:I agree I don't like TM but you are probably going to vig him as am I. Why do you not like him? And why vig him over a lurker? I ask because you just popped in here and haven't really been involved in anything.
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Mar 1, 2017 16:58
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Making I ask why you're wanting to vig him over a lurker because you have your vote on a lurker. For the reason that you don't want them flying under the radar
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Mar 1, 2017 17:00
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*mainly I ask...
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Mar 1, 2017 17:02
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I'll drop the hammer. Let's talk until then though.
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Mar 1, 2017 17:03
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 or not I guess##vote Mr. F
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Mar 1, 2017 17:08
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:First one is, "poo poo, I slipped. Let's get off that track." lol I've been quiet because I had to give a 3 hour lecture last night, help my parents out on their horse farm this morning, and just got home to see my wife earlier today. ANYWAYS Tobbs Gnawed posted:Giving this a second look, nothing had been posted that matches the actual town wincon. This is incorrect. Tobbs Gnawed posted:I win when there are no threats to TOWN but it doesn't explicitly say that I am town-aligned. You yourself posted that. You're stretching mightily in order to try and build a case because you're stuck and not sure how to win the game. In addition to that, Tobbs Gnawed posted:First one is, "poo poo, I slipped. Let's get off that track." For your first point I present these posts - I argue against focusing on the role PM crap because of these points I make windshipper posted:Thoughts on Tired Moritz? I don't trust a player to be town until I see cardflip. I think they might be more likely town than no, but I'm not gonna dismiss anyone as not being scum until it's confirmed. In addition, as I told you in a prior post - That whole spiel about you trying to break the game doesn't work past the first one or maybe two players who confirm their win condition. And that's assuming the scum don't have the proper town fake claim in the first place. Oh yeah and I killed chaoslord.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:17
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Combine the case you've built, the massive stretches you've made in it, along with your response to me asking what your thoughts on tired moritz are, and I'm certain you're scum.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:18
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I would argue that Tobbs as scum was in fact given a town fake claim that was exactly as I predicted:windshipper posted:That's a dumb line of thinking. Do you not think mafia would receive a fake role PM just in case? windshipper posted:Lol that's not a hint bro. He outright said it. You noticed that win condition and that there was no alignment, and made that move to try and confirm yourself as town, coast the rest of the game. In addition, when pressed for an opinion - Tobbs Gnawed posted:This pings me a little. The description in the OP talks about eliminating scum, but the actual role PM doesn't mention them. You give a vague response that allows you to wiffle waffle. Tobbs Gnawed posted:Maybe I was reading into him too much, but when he says "I have a pro town win condition so I am town" it makes me think of the sample VT role PM in the OP, where it's mentioned that scum need to be eliminated. And this one again allows you to back out. You offer no opinions on anyone the rest of the game. Then we come to today and you come out hard with a case that is a stretch at best.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:23
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but like, literally, it's the second post you make in the game. You state the win condition "You win when there are no threats to TOWN" Which honestly should be modkillable for quoting role PM crap but that's neither here nor there.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:27
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Also, I'm wondering if you weren't mod killed for pulling that poo poo specifically because you are the only scum in the game. Normally that would be grounds to modkill a townie doing that poo poo because it does effectively make them confirmed town in a lot of cases. In addition to all of this - If I were scum I would have killed you last night because you had made yourself so townie looking. You would be the one person I wouldn't want to be up against in end game. Yet, you're alive. Why?
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Mar 3, 2017 00:33
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Come on... 4 hours to go. Where is everyone? 
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Mar 3, 2017 00:51
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Well that's easy. Either scum doesn't have a NK, or you're scum. Anomalous Amalgam posted:chaoslord, TOWN aligned Vanilla Vigilante, has died.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:24
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Why did you kill Tired Moritz?
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Mar 3, 2017 01:24
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Also also, ##vote Tobbs Gnawed By the way, why are you still alive? And you haven't responded to any of my points or anything I've said, much less make any effort to counter what I responded to you with.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:25
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Like, I'd think my reaction to Chaoslord explains perfectly well why I tried to kill him. Especially with him jumping into the thread the way he did. Also right now I have a fear I'm wrong and it's this is a stickup. Especially now that I realize you killed Tired Moritz - I missed that post from the beginning of the day. This is a Stickup stating that he tried to kill chaoslord and his gun jammed is just.... fishy now. poo poo. In any case, scum would want to leave chaoslord alive given what he did yesterday, so I suppose I believe it. But you are definitely someone they would want dead - unless you are the scum.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:28
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I don't really see a need for it. I killed TM, you killed chaoslord. *shrug* I skimmed to catch up, saw your arguments against me, laughed. Dude, you posted the goddamn win condition in your second post. You built your case around that for the most part. You're stretching for a case by picking the person with the highest post count, which means it's the person you could try to pick apart the most since there's more there than anyone else. Even your whole, "poo poo I slipped" thing is built around you claiming to have not posted the win condition WHICH YOU POSTED AND WAS CONFIRMED IN MY OWN ROLE PM. lol
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Mar 3, 2017 01:31
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You tried to pick what you thought would be an easy target to argue as scum (since you are scum) and it's loving funny.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:32
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Yeah, if you were town then you wouldn't be concerned about stickup. I killed TM, you killed chaoslord. One of us used a NK, the other our 1-shot vig. If I was town I would be concerned about sticky temporarily. Tired Moritz is a smart target to choose as scum because he's a non-factor more or less one way or the other, people would argue he could be town because he's just "him" - and in addition to that Stickup pointed out that he's kind of townie because that's just how people respond to him. That then leads to scum being able to kill him and pass it off as a vig shot because they were "suspicious" of him. Meanwhile, yesterday you had no goddamn opinion on him at all other than some waffle-ing. You never posted why you thought he was scum other than some vague fingerwaving in his general direction. Then you jump on a lurker lynch.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:34
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You win when there are no more threats to TOWN. That is the win condition I have received.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:35
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I win when there are no threats to TOWN but it doesn't explicitly say that I am town-aligned. THIS is what you posted. The same goddamn win condition.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:36
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Read the goddamn posts I made you imbecile. Stop flailing.
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Mar 3, 2017 01:36
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:If you can convince sticky to vote me (or he doesn't vote) you win. I admitted to vigilante killing chaoslord, yes. Why would I kill him if I were scum? He'd be GREAT to keep around in end game. Think through your stretchy argument. Also, do you deny that you posted the town win condition?
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:P sure the best slip of yours is just now where you thought stick was scum. I actually didn't see you claimed that kill, no. I skimmed the thread when I got back because I was also working on my 3 hour lecture for Monday night. That gave me a moment of hesitation as I was thinking it through, and then realized what I posted about TM being a great choice as a nightkill as scum for you. Hence the train of thought post. Again, why would I kill chaoslord as scum?
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