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Rinkles posted:i have a deteriorating mindbrain, so some of that might be inaccurate Early concept art definitely had guns, as is some of the early prototypes.
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# ? Aug 21, 2020 22:27 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 01:36 |
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Came back to this after 2(?) years, having never finished it but apparently purchased The Frozen Wilds at some point. After 120+ hours of Ghost of Tsushima the movement on this feels super loose, but I’m committed to playing through it before the second one comes out.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 00:06 |
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I think they gave to everyone for free at some point?exquisite tea posted:At one point Aloy could call on some Oseram to come airlift out your robot parts on a flying machine, and this idea apparently got pretty far into development. But it was eventually cut for being too outlandish. Pretty sure Petra would come any time Aloy calls
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 08:04 |
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TFW NG+ Ultra Hard in under an hour for charity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k09UufDlUdU
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 21:52 |
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The part at 40:45 where he uses tearblast arrows to skip half the cauldron is pretty brilliant.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 14:34 |
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exquisite tea posted:The part at 40:45 where he uses tearblast arrows to skip half the cauldron is pretty brilliant. HONK
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 21:58 |
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exquisite tea posted:The part at 40:45 where he uses tearblast arrows to skip half the cauldron is pretty brilliant. This is what's fantastic about games
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 22:07 |
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Who is gonna get this $1099 Aloy statue? With the US stimulus check going for roughly the same amount, you'd almost be an idiot NOT to buy it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_h2cJophxU
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 14:38 |
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I know the game tries to explain it but I think it’s still a plot hole that they can’t just deploy another Faro swarm at the first one. Black Quartz is either hackable or it isn’t.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 14:38 |
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exquisite tea posted:Who is gonna get this $1099 Aloy statue? With the US stimulus check going for roughly the same amount, you'd almost be an idiot NOT to buy it! Ugh. Overpriced merch. And it all looks computer generated. The product probably doesn't even exist yet.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 17:23 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:I know the game tries to explain it but I think it’s still a plot hole that they can’t just deploy another Faro swarm at the first one. Black Quartz is either hackable or it isn’t. How would this possibly go well in any scenario.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 17:28 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:I know the game tries to explain it but I think it’s still a plot hole that they can’t just deploy another Faro swarm at the first one. Black Quartz is either hackable or it isn’t. That's very much an old lady who swallowed a fly situation.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 17:29 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:I know the game tries to explain it but I think it’s still a plot hole that they can’t just deploy another Faro swarm at the first one. Black Quartz is either hackable or it isn’t. I thought the reason they couldn't was because the rogue swarm was replicating too fast and wasn't hindered by dumb rules like "don't make dolphin smoothies" or "fruit orchards are not fuel" so anything they sent at it just got beaten and then the scrap was presumably turned into more rogue bots.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 18:00 |
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Yeah I think the swarm with "all matter is viable for use" and a massive reproductive head start is inevitably going to defeat anything human-friendly you send at it.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 18:02 |
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General Battuta posted:Yeah I think the swarm with "all matter is viable for use" and a massive reproductive head start is inevitably going to defeat anything human-friendly you send at it. And wasn't there a log or two covering that the HT Swarm would also hack and control any other swarms that approached it?
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 18:10 |
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Skwirl posted:That's very much an old lady who swallowed a fly situation. Think of it as a counter fire, except one that you can actually turn off. Hartz-Timor eats one third of the biosphere, Old Lady Fly swarm eats another third but works in conjunction with O:EV human forces to starve out HT by “just” eating everything in the Pacific Ocean. toplitzin posted:And wasn't there a log or two covering that the HT Swarm would also hack and control any other swarms that approached it? Yeah this is the plot hole though, because if the HT swarm can hack other swarms why can’t other swarms hack it back? It would just be a stalemate for 50 years surely. Basically my reasoning is the same as the reason the earth isn’t covered in flies or bacteria or whatever else reproduces exponentially: predation. The only way it works otherwise is if HT wasn’t just unhackable but that it had actually cracked Black Quartz itself in a fraction of the time it took Artemis to accomplish. Or, I guess, if it had gotten such a head start that even with human assistance another swarm couldn’t cut it off and quarantine it.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 18:24 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Think of it as a counter fire, except one that you can actually turn off. Hartz-Timor eats one third of the biosphere, Old Lady Fly swarm eats another third but works in conjunction with O:EV human forces to starve out HT by “just” eating everything in the Pacific Ocean. Doing some (forgive me) wiki diving, they seem to setup corruption as a one way street and cant be double overridden: Assuming corruptors were part of the OG swarm and not a HADES post GAIA invention: HZD wiki posted:It appears that overridden machines are immune to corruption, since the two Corruptors that Helis had commanded to kill Aloy were helpless to stop the three Ravagers from attacking and destroying them; they would doubtless have corrupted the Ravagers and had them help to pursue the escaping Aloy and Sylens if they could have done so. The implied immunity of overridden machines to corruption is logical given the use of the Corruptors' own slaving technology in the overriding process; the Corruptors would have been essentially slaving CPUs that were already slaved by their own technology, which is impossible. Likewise, Corrupted machines cannot be overridden for the same reason; it is not possible for the slaving technology to be used against itself. I guess that leaves us with: Was corruption/override purely HADES or was it part of the H-T or was the H-T just on a exponential runaway and no amount of other swarms would stop it?
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 18:31 |
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My understanding was that by the time anyone besides Ted twigged to H-T going rogue, it was long, long past too late already for any other swarm or weapon to catch up and win exponential growth's a bitch
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 18:49 |
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Unlike any friendly bots HT weren't beholden to ethical rules like "don't eat humans" and thus were entirely superior in securing and replenishing their own supply lines.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 18:53 |
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Also any robot swarm we could control could be hacked by the HT swarm as well.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 19:05 |
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Just set Is Hackable to 0
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 19:06 |
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itry posted:Ugh. Overpriced merch. Its a physical prototype with some lighting and atmospheric effects added in post for the ad. I would love a stalker (or thunderjaw) but yeah $1,200 is ridiculous.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 19:37 |
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toplitzin posted:Doing some (forgive me) wiki diving, they seem to setup corruption as a one way street and cant be double overridden: Oh poo poo that thing about not corrupti already-corrupted machines makes perfect sense and it’s already right there in the game. Makes sense, gj
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 19:49 |
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Skwirl posted:Also any robot swarm we could control could be hacked by the HT swarm as well. That's the one piece I remember but couldn't find. I would have sworn there was a text/audio log that said "anything we sent just got turned against us by the HT into more HT"
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 21:27 |
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Elizabet mentions it during the meeting with the joint chiefs, one of them is like "if we just upgrade our swarm..." and she tells him using their own machines won't work because the rogue swarm is an apex predator when it comes to hacking.
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 22:01 |
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the bad machines can probably learn to hack way faster than humans could make better anti-hackable bots also
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# ? Aug 27, 2020 22:54 |
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I thought it was dumb how there were still rusted hulks of old buildings that somehow aren't dust after a thousand years, but then I realised that if the plague ate all the bacteria and left earth completely inert before being shut down, it would make more sense. Might even explain why Elisabets corpse and home town are still there
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# ? Aug 28, 2020 00:02 |
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:I thought it was dumb how there were still rusted hulks of old buildings that somehow aren't dust after a thousand years, but then I realised that if the plague ate all the bacteria and left earth completely inert before being shut down, it would make more sense. Might even explain why Elisabets corpse and home town are still there well after they ate basically everything the atmosphere and ocean were pretty completely unviable for life, single cell included. Total destruction of the entire biosphere. This game is some of the most compelling sci-fi I've ever experienced.
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# ? Aug 28, 2020 00:37 |
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:I thought it was dumb how there were still rusted hulks of old buildings that somehow aren't dust after a thousand years, but then I realised that if the plague ate all the bacteria and left earth completely inert before being shut down, it would make more sense. Might even explain why Elisabets corpse and home town are still there I didn't see it as Elisabets corpse, just her suit. That the focus projected an image of her face into. But I could be misremembering
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# ? Aug 28, 2020 00:41 |
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Lechtansi posted:I didn't see it as Elisabets corpse, just her suit. That the focus projected an image of her face into. But I could be misremembering her corpse is deffo gone gone
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# ? Aug 28, 2020 03:37 |
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Lechtansi posted:I didn't see it as Elisabets corpse, just her suit. That the focus projected an image of her face into. But I could be misremembering this is correct
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# ? Aug 28, 2020 16:17 |
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https://twitter.com/thenation/status/1299519388706648066?s=20
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# ? Aug 29, 2020 02:45 |
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Just waiting for Elon to announce his new warbot company now
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# ? Aug 29, 2020 03:58 |
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Eyud posted:Just waiting for Elon to announce his new warbot company now He's focused on putting computer chips in everyone's brain ATM.
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# ? Aug 29, 2020 04:09 |
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Yeah poo poo like this is why the game gave me intense depressive states and existential anxiety. motherfuckers are dumb enough to think "this is a great idea and I'll be fuckin rich!"
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# ? Aug 29, 2020 08:39 |
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FilthyImp posted:Yeah poo poo like this is why the game gave me intense depressive states and existential anxiety. There are so many real world police and military technology programs nicknamed "Skynet" by their creators.
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# ? Aug 29, 2020 08:44 |
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HZD was written and produced pre-2017, when the idea of international cooperation in the face of ecocidal threats was believable rather than a cruel joke. I mean, in that fictional universe, the world had clawed back from global warming, there had been precedence for global initiatives that benefited humanity. We're in a world where governments can't even agree that that a virus killing and maiming people is actually something of concern. Ignoring the fact that the Faro Plague is far too ecocidal a fictional device, we're more likely to governments try and divert the swarm of death robots at perceived enemies, both domestic and foreign. Hope you like getting into meat slurry California! Phobophilia fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Aug 29, 2020 |
# ? Aug 29, 2020 14:04 |
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Skwirl posted:I don't think draft animals existed in the Americas until after Europeans got here and there were huge empires and a lot of buildings, Egyptians also only used human labor for the pyramids. I mean, camels originated in the Americas and llamas and their kin still live here, do they count?
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# ? Aug 29, 2020 14:36 |
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derra posted:I mean, camels originated in the Americas and llamas and their kin still live here, do they count? Were they used as draft animals by Incans/Mayans/Aztec? Bison were around too and very important to First Nations tribes, but they weren't domesticated or used to haul heavy poo poo around.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 01:36 |
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Lechtansi posted:I didn't see it as Elisabets corpse, just her suit. That the focus projected an image of her face into. But I could be misremembering No, her body is inside the suit, when Aloy picks up the charm you can see the dried up mummy of Sobek's hand holding it. It's not a glove or anything, because you can see the suit is broken around the hand
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