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Carter kept the weapons flowing to Indonesia and covered for them politically while they practiced genocide in East Timor.
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The Kingfish posted:Carter kept the weapons flowing to Indonesia and covered for them politically while they practiced genocide in East Timor. whoops https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/07/21/asia/indonesia-genocide-panel/index.html
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Like I ain't canonizing him but "jimmy carter was bad because my trump-voting dad said so" is not gonna fly in my lf.
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Peanut President posted:Like I ain't canonizing him but "jimmy carter was bad because my trump-voting dad said so" is not gonna fly in my lf. I wasn't saying he was a bad president? Just said that speech was pretty bad, and that the country itself was going through an insanely bad rough patch. George W. Bush was a bad president. A lot of the problems he caused to the county happened under his watch and were directly related to his poo poo policies. Carter? Inherited some pretty awful poo poo, and had the misfortune to have a decades worth of problems happen in the span of 4 years. There's a massive difference between being a bad president and being a president who presideded during bad timing. (Again, if he was running in 1992? He'd have won election, re-election in a landslide. World was stable as gently caress back then. Not so much from 1968-1981).
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The speech was spot on. Telling people to quit wasting gas in a shortage is not bad policy. You don't water a golf course in a loving drought.
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Peanut President posted:The speech was spot on. Telling people to quit wasting gas in a shortage is not bad policy. You don't water a golf course in a loving drought. It's a difficult thing to push for during a non war time situation. I mean, he practiced what he preached. He installed Solar Panels on the White House, and did various things like that. But I imagine it was a difficult sell to a lot of people. Re: The Energy Crisis. I do think one of the massive "bad luck" moments for him was Three Mile Isle and Love Canal btw. IIRC he was really wanting to push Nuclear Power as an alternative during the energy crisis. Had those not happened? Perhaps things would have been smoothed over in that regard.
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Peanut President posted:The speech was spot on. Telling people to quit wasting gas in a shortage is not bad policy. You don't water a golf course in a loving drought. lol
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Apr 26, 2017 05:46
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you can tell america they're racist, sexist, and historically a blight on the planet but being right while proclaiming those things will not secure you the power to fix them, in fact the opposite
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Apr 26, 2017 05:50
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also huge  to any president of the USA being 'good' in the moral or non moral senses
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Apr 26, 2017 05:52
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KomradeX posted:Service industry wages and working conditions aren't much better than being unemployed and have existed since time immemorial, and are the only jobs left even in anarchy
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Apr 26, 2017 23:55
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:and have existed since time immemorial, and are the only jobs left even in anarchy I highly doubt that out from under Capitalism they would pay slave wages
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Apr 27, 2017 00:06
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KomradeX posted:I highly doubt that out from under Capitalism they would pay slave wages wherever, and whenever the rich retain power, service jobs will be paid poorly, so as to prevent the financial independence of the people providing the service, so that at no point do the individuals have another option besides continuing to provide the service the service industry therefore, is a perennial feature of the economy, and also perennially lacking in adequate pay
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Apr 27, 2017 00:11
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:wherever, and whenever the rich retain power, service jobs will be paid poorly, so as to prevent the financial independence of the people providing the service, so that at no point do the individuals have another option besides continuing to provide the service wage.... slavery????! or debt peonage there has got to be a better way 
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The thing about that "breaking up the banks won't end racism" quote is that it turns into a gerrymandering diatribe that becomes a tautology about minorities voting democratic to end racism
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