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DoggPickle posted:Yes. Absolutely . They forfeited their human rights when they hurt someone else. So I've been looking for the purple rule since yours is very stupid. It seems to be "don't have sex." So since I want to have sex, I'll be breaking the opposite of the golden rule, so have your parents, have you considered killing them?
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DoggPickle posted:This is basically the dumbest argument that I've ever read. When people are mean or evil to other people, when they're scary or violent. it's quite obvious, even though it may be difficult to put down in words. lol the dumbest argument when you go by the affirmation of a negative for a moral axiom. Shame your parents didn't abort, should that lead to the death penalty?
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Feb 28, 2017 04:25
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If we are going to assume a hypothetical super justice system that makes no mistakes you must also assume super murderers that don't get caught. Only passionate people would be murdered by the state.
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Mar 1, 2017 04:45
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hakimashou posted:Exactly right. Arresting a criminal isn't the same as kidnapping him. Collecting taxes or imposing a fine isn't the same as robbing someone, executing a murderer isn't the same as murdering somone. Have you read the story of the 15 year old boy who was indefinitely detained at riker's and eventually offed himself, for having what amounted to his own backpack? That is kidnapping and torture, there are systematic unjust fines levied at the poor and PoC. The state murders people unjustly as well. I'm so happy cops ignore you and would probably be punished for killing your children in cold blood, but don't pretend that is universal even within your local municipality.
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Mar 2, 2017 05:06
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You were in jail, not prison. hth.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:15
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Perhaps rather than making absurd statements like "The death penalty is actually a very nice out." Fueled by your depression and lack of knowledge of the criminal justice system in this country, you should realize that your experience is just an anecdote and while you may not have gotten anything out of it other than contempt, others do experience true reformation. Those who want death as an out just off themselves, with a majority of suicides occur within two weeks of incarceration (this is ignoring the abuse of mentally ill and PoC being written off as suicide). It's a shame you were not such a rational actor so I wouldn't have to read your inhumane garbage. Prison has a much better QOL than Jail btw.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:55
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twodot posted:So government activities that will foreseeably result in ending lives is acceptable so long as those activities accomplish some goal you approve of? If that's the case we're back to it not being the case that you are fundamentally opposed to the government occasionally killing innocents, just that you don't think the value of the death penalty justifies it.
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Mar 15, 2017 20:44
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twodot posted:I don't understand the point. We agree that imprisoning innocent people is also a deprivation of civil rights, correct?
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Mar 15, 2017 21:28
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Odd how when the state settles out of court, giving gobs of money to surviving family members, it's with the express disclaimer that the state is not admitting to a mistake or acknowledging an institutional failure.
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Mar 17, 2017 20:08
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It would kill less minorities which I think you'd be against DR
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