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Medullah
Aug 13, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS


savinhill posted:

Dennis is the best friend any guy could have, would gladly lift weights/work out with him and always let him win any pose-downs we might have :)

He really is the best. The herpes and it's oh-so-convincing follow up video is one of my favorite parts of the show. Laughed so hard.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009



Just watched the premiere after seeing many recommendations for it (outside this thread). It can be a bit slow at moments but generally does a great job of setting everything up while being entertaining on its own. Good poo poo, will definitely watch further.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

Snowman Crossing posted:


Also, I love the way Leslie is a stickler and a hardass, but also capable of empathy and forgiveness. Even John, during on of his songs, reveals that he really admires his integrity and work ethics.

Leslie is Grandpa #1.

precision
May 7, 2006

hug your posting pals


Medullah posted:

He really is the best. The herpes and it's oh-so-convincing follow up video is one of my favorite parts of the show. Laughed so hard.

On rewatch, one of the many many small details I loved is that his karate Facebook pics have "0 likes" and "0 comments".

Now that there's gonna be a season 2, and considering I think they're likely to stay with the same cast for at least a while longer, anyone else suspect that it will be revealed that Leslie orchestrated the whole "bankruptcy" thing specifically so he could step up? There may even be clues that this is the case and I missed them, because the show does go out of its way to show us that, barring something massive like bankruptcy, Leslie was never going to get promoted.

Kurtwood Smith is doing a great job and it would be an interesting way to keep him around if John found out his secret.

On rewatch it also struck me how brilliant the casting for "Muslim Terry O'Quinn" and "Muslim Cool Rick" was.

Also on rewatch the most insanely sad thing is the suicide scene with "Double Great". Man that slayed me.

VSOKUL girl
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

I watched most of this over the weekend.

It's like The Americans had a weird drunk one night stand with the Rick and Morty writers, and the end result is quite good.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010


precision posted:

On rewatch, one of the many many small details I loved is that his karate Facebook pics have "0 likes" and "0 comments".


On rewatch it also struck me how brilliant the casting for "Muslim Terry O'Quinn" and "Muslim Cool Rick" was.

Also on rewatch the most insanely sad thing is the suicide scene with "Double Great". Man that slayed me.

Oh man, that's great. I totally forgot about Karate Dennis. I'd so, so love if they actually made some social media accounts for him as a promotional tool for season 2.


Yeah, they were great and the end result of their storyline just piles on to the tragedy that goes along with the comedy of this brilliant show.

I like to think that since they didn't show him actually die, that he failed in his suicide attempt like he failed at so much other stuff in his life. Like maybe he tied a lovely knot, or used too long of a rope, something, anything

Anyway, I'm still baffled as to how this show hasn't blown up more in cult and critical popularity.

I also just watched a great new movie with a similar dark and violent comedy vibe like Patriot. Free Fire is the name of it, I think anyone who loved this series would also love this.

precision
May 7, 2006

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savinhill posted:

I also just watched a great new movie with a similar dark and violent comedy vibe like Patriot. Free Fire is the name of it, I think anyone who loved this series would also love this.

Thanks for this, I'll watch anything with Sam Riley and/or Cillian Murphy and they're both excellent in it. The middle dragged but the first and last 30 minutes are fantastic. Great little flick.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004





Grimey Drawer

Ben Wheatley is a fantastic director. Check out KILL LIST.

precision
May 7, 2006

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OH yeah that's where I'd seen the guy's name before! Yes, Kill List is phenomenal, I really need to rewatch that sometime soon.

:ninja: edit: Ah and hid High Rise too, solid

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!

One of my favorite shows of all time, absolutely brilliant.

Can anyone confirm that a Season 2 is actually green-lighted for production? There seems to be a lot of speculation and rumors that it has, but I can't find anywhere that states Amazon is making it happen.

My favorite character turned out to be Dennis upon second viewing of Season 1. I didn't fully appreciate how authentic and invested his character was until I watched him again.

My favorite scene of his after the "long walk" up to John sitting in the pipe in Ep.8-
Dennis- "Hey. Just wanted to give you an update about my life. You ever stay in a kind of, lovely hotel that has the TV and its chained to the wall? Well, that's where I live now. And I look at it, and I think - even if I could get the TV off the chain, I couldn't steal it because, I have nowhere to take it because, I have no home now."

oh and of course,

Leslie - "ARE YOU PREPARED?"

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES


The Americans meets Burn After Reading.

An espionage slow-boiler / dark comedy.

I can't wait for season 2.

precision
May 7, 2006

hug your posting pals


It was officially renewed on April 18th, with most/all of the cast returning (more Leslie, yay!)

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010


Dennis McClaren posted:

One of my favorite shows of all time, absolutely brilliant.

Can anyone confirm that a Season 2 is actually green-lighted for production? There seems to be a lot of speculation and rumors that it has, but I can't find anywhere that states Amazon is making it happen.

My favorite character turned out to be Dennis upon second viewing of Season 1. I didn't fully appreciate how authentic and invested his character was until I watched him again.

My favorite scene of his after the "long walk" up to John sitting in the pipe in Ep.8-
Dennis- "Hey. Just wanted to give you an update about my life. You ever stay in a kind of, lovely hotel that has the TV and its chained to the wall? Well, that's where I live now. And I look at it, and I think - even if I could get the TV off the chain, I couldn't steal it because, I have nowhere to take it because, I have no home now."

oh and of course,

Leslie - "ARE YOU PREPARED?"

I've said it before, but for Dennis it's worth repeating - He's the best, and best friend any dude could have. Would lift weights/workout/purposely lose post-workout posedowns with him anytime

precision
May 7, 2006

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Cool Rick and Muslim Cool Rick would be my first picks, but I would totally have a beer with Dennis. He's a solid bro.

Titan
Jan 14, 2002


precision posted:

Cool Rick and Muslim Cool Rick would be my first picks, but I would totally have a beer with Dennis. He's a solid bro.

The blossoming bromance between Cool Rick and Muslim Cool Rick was great. I loved it when the dad is describing that in every family with a John will also have an Edward and their days, attitude, and outfit are shown to perfectly match up.

Also laughed really hard at the Muslim wife watching porno for the first time.

Only show I have ever watched that gives you everything you need to know about the main character in the first 2 minutes. With a Folk song!

precision
May 7, 2006

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Just occurred to me that it would be hilarious if the guy that John is always having message board arguments with is his dad or Muslim John or something.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

mea culpa


This is a very funny and poignant show and I'm coming from a place of basically presuming nearly every show created for a streaming platform tends to be TV-shaped incoherent garbage crudely assembled to fill some exec board's genre chart. The Wisconsin office park material was solid gold and insanely well cast. The Luxembourg stuff really pushed the McGuffin action as far as it would stretch but I still got a huge kick out of things like the unwitting high stakes race to the dullest section of the library

I'm also very into the fact that as far as there's a villain it's John's dad

savinhill posted:

I like to think that since they didn't show him actually die, that he failed in his suicide attempt like he failed at so much other stuff in his life. Like maybe he tied a lovely knot, or used too long of a rope, something, anything

It is so great to see Mark Boone Jr. get a role that lets him be charming after however many thankless years on fuckin' Sons of Anarchy. You can see Rob's stretched the rope over his unsellable cracked kayak so I am hoping that's a setup for it to break under his weight, or at least the show has a strong out from the suicide that would be very in keeping with its tone

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.



I'll start by saying I absolutely love this show.

There's one tiny tech glitch in the first episode that smacks me every time. Kurtwood Smith pronounces fillet weld as fil-LAY weld, when in the industrial world it's pronounced phonetically, like fill-it weld. But all the other phraseology they use is either real and correct, or fake and hilariously realistic. As an engineering nerd who notices poo poo like that it's deliciously satisfying, and makes the one little error easily forgivable.

Basically, given how great the jargon is, I'm surprised that error slipped through. I'd chalk it up to pilot episode.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004





Grimey Drawer

I need to watch this season again so badly. So fuckin good dude

precision
May 7, 2006

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LloydDobler posted:

I'll start by saying I absolutely love this show.

There's one tiny tech glitch in the first episode that smacks me every time. Kurtwood Smith pronounces fillet weld as fil-LAY weld, when in the industrial world it's pronounced phonetically, like fill-it weld. But all the other phraseology they use is either real and correct, or fake and hilariously realistic. As an engineering nerd who notices poo poo like that it's deliciously satisfying, and makes the one little error easily forgivable.

Basically, given how great the jargon is, I'm surprised that error slipped through. I'd chalk it up to pilot episode.

I sincerely thought every piece of piping jargon in this show was made up :psyduck:

e: it took me a second watch to realize that the mission that John fucks up in the beginning that gets him sent to torture was to kill "the physicist". I even briefly considered that there might be some kind of time loop fuckery going on

precision fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Aug 21, 2017

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010




One thing I don't get is why John checked the bag full of money instead of taking it as his carry on.

precision
May 7, 2006

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WrightOfWay posted:

One thing I don't get is why John checked the bag full of money instead of taking it as his carry on.

All carry-on goes through the X-Ray machine and they'd see it was full of money and have many, many questions (you have to declare over a certain amount of money and have a good reason for having it)

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!

So this is a link to an "insight into the cinematographer/cinematography of Patriot" It's called The Symmetric Frame and it's really cool.

https://vimeo.com/229670073?ref=em-share

"A short video essay focusing on the cinematography in Patriot (Amazon TV series) with regards to its use of symmetry as a reoccurring visual style throughout."

Dennis McClaren fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Aug 22, 2017

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009



LloydDobler posted:

I'll start by saying I absolutely love this show.

There's one tiny tech glitch in the first episode that smacks me every time. Kurtwood Smith pronounces fillet weld as fil-LAY weld, when in the industrial world it's pronounced phonetically, like fill-it weld. But all the other phraseology they use is either real and correct, or fake and hilariously realistic. As an engineering nerd who notices poo poo like that it's deliciously satisfying, and makes the one little error easily forgivable.

Basically, given how great the jargon is, I'm surprised that error slipped through. I'd chalk it up to pilot episode.
What about the big presentation John has later on? It was extremely impressive but I wasn't able to figure out how much of that was real or fake, which I'm sure was the goal.

precision posted:

All carry-on goes through the X-Ray machine and they'd see it was full of money and have many, many questions (you have to declare over a certain amount of money and have a good reason for having it)

And the checked-in luggage doesn't? Good thing the terrorists haven't realized that.

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!

mobby_6kl posted:

What about the big presentation John has later on? It was extremely impressive but I wasn't able to figure out how much of that was real or fake, which I'm sure was the goal.


And the checked-in luggage doesn't? Good thing the terrorists haven't realized that.

Terrorists know. Drug Smugglers know.

Checked-in luggage is done almost exactly as it's done in the show, and like John says, when he's speaking with his handler when being given the bag. Checked bags are scanned/x-ray on a random basis. Maybe 1 in 15 bags is pulled for x-ray. The only exception is if a checked bagged looks obviously suspicious.

Lots of people travel with illegal and dangerous objects inside checked-in baggage everyday.

Dennis McClaren fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 22, 2017

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006



This is an exceptional show but I had some trouble understanding the relationships in the Tavner family. I kept expecting Cool Rick to be adopted. Also, it got a little confusing as to whether Alice was John's sister or wife or sister-wife for a while. Am I wrong or did John's dad not refer to Alice as his "daughter" a few times?

They never explained why John ended up in the CIA while Cool Rick ended up pursuing the more traditional political paths, did they? I don't need the whole story in 1 season, i just want to make sure I didn't miss something.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004





Grimey Drawer

I think Locke just meant daughter as short for daughter-in-law, maybe?

3 DONG HORSE
May 21, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization



^that for sure

It's shorthand for "like a daughter to me", don't make this weird and goony, ya goon.

precision
May 7, 2006

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The first time I watched the show, I somehow missed the scene of Ephraim jumping off the roof. :shobon:

"We can sit in the handicap section now"

The lowkey best part of the show is the story of how Cool Rick met Your Mom.

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!

precision posted:

The lowkey best part of the show is the story of how Cool Rick met Your Mom.

This is the part I'm a little confused about. So is Ephraim Rick's real son? Or just a kid from big brother he looks after?
If that's so, how is it that Rick interacts with the mom so much? I don't understand this relationship triangle here.

Lots of moments of touching family love in this show it's very heartwarming.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010




He is Ephraim's dad, he just can't be public about it because he's a congressman from a conservative district in Texas.

precision
May 7, 2006

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I think it's also meant to be implied that Cool Rick and Your Mom still have an "on again off again" sort of deal going because there's never any mention of Ephraim having a stepdad or anything, and from what we see Cool Rick and Your Mom still talk on the phone like constantly.

e: We know he's been a Congressman since Ephraim was born, so when he met Your Mom in DC, he was already set up in Texas, so it may have been a thing where she didn't want to marry him and move to Texas

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010


precision posted:

I think it's also meant to be implied that Cool Rick and Your Mom still have an "on again off again" sort of deal going because there's never any mention of Ephraim having a stepdad or anything, and from what we see Cool Rick and Your Mom still talk on the phone like constantly.

e: We know he's been a Congressman since Ephraim was born, so when he met Your Mom in DC, he was already set up in Texas, so it may have been a thing where she didn't want to marry him and move to Texas

Your Mom and Ephraim were also shown in scenes at the family home with Dad while Cool Rick was overseas, so it seems extra silly for the parental/relationship subterfuge. I have a feeling that Dad is the reason why Cool Rick isn't married to Your Mom yet, whether it's Dad wanting him to remain publicly single and childless for political purposes, or Your Mom not wanting to marry til Cool Rick starts acting like a true adult and stops letting Dad dictate his life for him.

precision
May 7, 2006

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savinhill posted:

Your Mom and Ephraim were also shown in scenes at the family home with Dad while Cool Rick was overseas, so it seems extra silly for the parental/relationship subterfuge. I have a feeling that Dad is the reason why Cool Rick isn't married to Your Mom yet, whether it's Dad wanting him to remain publicly single and childless for political purposes, or Your Mom not wanting to marry til Cool Rick starts acting like a true adult and stops letting Dad dictate his life for him.

Someone said that, to the extent there's a "villain" on the show, it's Papa Taverner. While I don't agree that he's a "villain", I can see the logic behind the sentiment.

Torpor
Oct 20, 2008

.. and now for my next trick, I'll pretend to be a political commentator...

HONK HONK


I am re-watching this show and it is sublime. Pretty neat how they fit everything together.

Padje
Sep 9, 2003

I don't much care for the attitude of filthy money-lenders

Torpor posted:

I think it was supposed to be a mind game. she was probably taking the train back to the station house

When I am having a terrible day at work I think of this show.

Ep 10 She was definitely taking the money. You think her job in homicide pays well? She's stuck in a room where the more successful coppers keep their jetskis. Her home life isn't great. They mention that child services are already involved.

She offered John a choice. Follow me and go to prison or leave me with this cash in return for your freedom. What she didn't realise is she was offering John something even bigger than that - Let me take the money, and your dad will be investigated and removed/imprisoned, leaving you free of his worst demands, or return to the life that is eating you from the inside.

And he chooses freedom, in both cases. Until he finds out his brother has been kidnapped...

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Few things I haven't been able to clear up ...

Why does Edward call himself "Cool Rick?"

Which one is the older brother? In the family videos, there are times they look the same age (motorcycles) and times where one appears to be a couple years older (whooping around the bbq). I believe John is the older brother because he's more mature and less naive and Edward is less responsible. But my wife argues that "Cool Rick" is a big brother nickname and that Edward is always looking out for John, his younger brother.

Also, my favorite scene is Ichabod and John, cuddling in the woods.

One thing that confused me was John smiling when he shoots Leslie.

precision
May 7, 2006

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I think "Cool Rick" might derive from "Slick Rick", since Eddie is a big rap fan.

I'm almost positive John is the older brother but only by a year or two based on the opening.

wormil posted:

One thing that confused me was John smiling when he shoots Leslie.

Probably because it's the one time he actually wanted to shoot somebody

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

I don't believe he wanted to do it, based on his expression when his dad told him.

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i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS


I watched this a few weeks ago and then immediately made my roommate and friend watch it with me again. I loved the initial run, but the follow-up watch confirms just how well-orchestrated the whole thing is. The absurd dark comedy slays me, but the show also does a great job at exploring the dynamics of family, responsibility, and the consequences of individual actions.

I'm blown away at the reviews calling this mediocre or a show that exists for no purpose. It has one of the best pilots I've seen in awhile, setting up every main character and a bunch of key details that pay off throughout the rest of the season. The show as a whole has almost no fat at all. Everything matters and it's all pretty drat satisfying. Add onto that the beautiful cinematography, some amazingly constructed scenes, and terrific performances and it's just a double great show.

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