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nine-gear crow posted:Yes I know, but it wasn't even concern trolling it was a literal "What the gently caress is wrong with you people? You could have put Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, or one of the Castro brothers up there and instead you picked this old retired coot?" On one hand I agree. On the other, getting a guy who made a very popular state program out of Obamacare to refute this and be a face to white working class voters can be helpful. The whole election was framed as "Democrats hate all white men," and it's wrong. But it gets air time and needs refuted.
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I think Trump deserves a lot of credit for Presidenting for a whole hour without using any racial slurs. He didn't even mock the disabled girl! It was pretty good, for him. Very Presidential.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Except Trump is going to use it as an excuse to steamroll the democrats to the thunderous applause of middle america unlike Obama who actually tried to work with republicans for six years like an idiot. yeah i agree the dems need to try to work with the president like a smart guy
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Call Me Charlie posted:Except Trump is going to use it as an excuse to steamroll the democrats to the thunderous applause of middle america unlike Obama who actually tried to work with republicans for six years like an idiot. Yes, he will steamroll the Democrats to his minority of support.
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boner confessor posted:yeah i agree the dems need to try to work with the president like a smart guy they need to make it look like they're willing to work with him while they actually oppose everything he does. how do you not understand this?
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Call Me Charlie posted:Except Trump is going to use it as an excuse to steamroll the democrats to the thunderous applause of middle america unlike Obama who actually tried to work with republicans for six years like an idiot.
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TheScott2K posted:I think Trump deserves a lot of credit for Presidenting for a whole hour without using any racial slurs. He didn't even mock the disabled girl! It was pretty good, for him. Very Presidential.
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Why is Van Jones currently on CNN attempting to lovingly suck the last drops of jizz out of Trump's stunted cock?
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Call Me Charlie posted:they need to make it look like they're willing to work with him while they opposing everything he does. how do you not understand this? a clever ruse. i like it.
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Play posted:Hahaha CNN was interviewing Paul Ryan post-speech and he was all super pumped up, then all of a sudden they asked him, "so how do you think funding for all of these ventures will be accomplished?" Oh man I hope there will be a video of that later so I can watch it over and over. 
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So it was a bunch of "Here's a bunch of big ideas I have" but very little specifics about how to do them, right?
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Call Me Charlie posted:Except Trump is going to use it as an excuse to steamroll the democrats to the thunderous applause of middle america unlike Obama who actually tried to work with republicans for six years like an idiot. Democrats should have done ______________ which would surely have provoked a different response.
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Why is everyone fondling themselves over how presidential the widow-moment was? It was disgusting and crass and made me physically uncomfortable. Do I just understand the US even less than I thought?
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Your Taint posted:So it was a bunch of "Here's a bunch of big ideas I have" but very little specifics about how to do them, right? yes but don't worry. he's forming a lot of task forces and working groups that might eventually propose some recommendations that could help implement some of those ideas maybe
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Skypie posted:The whole election was framed as "Democrats hate all white men," and it's wrong. But it gets air time and needs refuted. Lol this thread has a funny way of showing it. "Ugh a white guy, AND an old at that?" You can all eat poo poo, i thought representative Palpatine did very well.
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PT6A posted:Why is everyone fondling themselves over how presidential the widow-moment was? It was disgusting and crass and made me physically uncomfortable. Do I just understand the US even less than I thought? USA USA USA
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PT6A posted:Why is Van Jones currently on CNN attempting to lovingly suck the last drops of jizz out of Trump's stunted cock? Positive reinforcement.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Lol this thread has a funny way of showing it. "Ugh a white guy, AND an old at that?" the gov did well. it just doesn't matter, unfortunately
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The one great thing about Obamacare, even for all its flaws, is the "gotcha moment" to Republicans as in "good luck repealing and replacing this outside of a single payer model and enjoy the political fallout when millions aren't covered and pay more for less benefit". The Republicans are hosed on healthcare and they know it.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Lol this thread has a funny way of showing it. "Ugh a white guy, AND an old at that?" I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting more minority representation either? The sentiment was "why give it to this guy when there's people who connect better to the younger demographics?" (The answer is so those people don't have their careers tanked)
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Confounding Factor posted:The one great thing about Obamacare, even for all its flaws, is the "gotcha moment" to Republicans as in "good luck repealing and replacing this outside of a single payer model and enjoy the political fallout when millions aren't covered and pay more for less benefit". I don't know why the GOP's line the minute Trump won wasn't "Obamacare is such a convoluted disaster that we can't even repeal it, but trust us Republicans to be the one to fix the mess the Democrats created".
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So how bad of a horrorshow was this
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Confounding Factor posted:The one great thing about Obamacare, even for all its flaws, is the "gotcha moment" to Republicans as in "good luck repealing and replacing this outside of a single payer model and enjoy the political fallout when millions aren't covered and pay more for less benefit". Ah, perhaps the old boy was playing 11th dimensional chess after all! Obama, you sly old dog!
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So how bad of a horrorshow was this Sinteres posted:Trump wants to establish a task force to hang every criminal act by an immigrant on immigrants as a whole, and the media are cheering him on because he didn't poo poo his pants on live tv.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So how bad of a horrorshow was this It was the standard campaign speech delivered with a little more professionalism.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So how bad of a horrorshow was this nothing new. pretty boring. you missed nothing.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So how bad of a horrorshow was this Depends on who you ask. Van jones , mr "whitelash" himself cant stop fapping. He just said trump "became president" tonight.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Depends on who you ask. Van jones , mr "whitelash" himself cant stop fapping. He just said trump "became president" tonight. Yeah, I was starting to like him too... Did Trump find a secret Van Jones sex tape or something?
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PT6A posted:Yeah, I was starting to like him too... It's easy to say this was a good speech when the bell curve is made up of mostly Twitter rants and insane ramblings
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I'm gonna' say it again: All Trump ever had to do was not make a complete dick of himself, and a large chunk of people would talk about how "surprisingly presidential" he looked. He managed to make it through an entire election and a month of being the loving president without that ability, and now that he's managed not to soil his pantaloons onstage, here we are. "Surprisingly presidential."
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LividLiquid posted:I'm gonna' say it again: All Trump ever had to do was not make a complete dick of himself, and a large chunk of people would talk about how "surprisingly presidential" he looked. like i said before the speech started: Hieronymous Alloy posted:If God exists, Trump will piss himself on stage tonight
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Dr. VooDoo posted:It's easy to say this was a good speech when the bell curve is made up of mostly Twitter rants and insane ramblings Everyone expected something along the lines of the inaugural address, and this was far more normal than that was, so most people's expectations have been far exceeded. I think it's fine to give the administration some positive coverage on what was, by their standards, a positive night. The media has to be careful not to go overboard with negativity or risk damaging their credibility further in the eyes of the average joe who sees them criticize Trump no matter what, and then tunes out all criticism. Tonight is an easy and overall meaningless venture for the press to ease up and show that they can give credit where credit is due - even if it wasn't for this speech. Trump lived dangerously in this speech and opened himself up to far more hard hitting criticism to come. Don't hit the guy for promising unicorns, wait for him to inevitably deliver lame mules and then hit him.
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Call Me Charlie posted:they need to make it look like they're willing to work with him while they actually oppose everything he does. how do you not understand this? trump is blaming obama for organizing protests against him lmao if you think he'll give dems credit for even faking cooperation the second he needs someone to throw under the bus were you actually born yesterday
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If Jeb! had become President his joint speech wouldn't have looked terribly different from this one. Lots of people are breathing a sigh of relief because it feels like some semblence of normalcy is returning and the POTUS managed to not look like a lunatic.
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VOICE terrifies me as a Hispanic dude living in a sanctuary city. It could be anything from We Tip for immigrant crimes to the American Gestapo. I do not look forward to being curb stomped by a group of red hats with a free weekend just because I "looked the part".
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He called it, I quote "a Great Great Wall." I dont see any mexicans in China. Maybe he is on to something.
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Fojar38 posted:If Jeb! had become President his joint speech wouldn't have looked terribly different from this one. Lots of people are breathing a sigh of relief because it feels like some semblence of normalcy is returning and the POTUS managed to not look like a lunatic. until he tweets something in approximately seven hours, anyway
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