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For Madarame, the remake added a second phase where he spawns lovely elemental clones constantly so the idea is you have to chain together a full baton pass and then have Ryuji (whoever) finish up by punching him with the fury of an wrathful god. Which is a neat gimmick I guess but I much prefer the original single phase version, it was the hardest and most satisfying boss battle in the original for me. Maybe they'll do something interesting for Kaneshiro at least, that guy was really boring. And Okumura too I guess.
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Hard pass from me. I loved Persona 4, so Golden was a welcome revisit of the game. Persona 5 had some issues, I'd rather just get platinum in the original game than play a slightly improved remake of it. Bring on Persona Lu Bu.
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Mar 15, 2020 07:46
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Sapozhnik posted:For Madarame, the remake added a second phase where he spawns lovely elemental clones constantly so the idea is you have to chain together a full baton pass and then have Ryuji (whoever) finish up by punching him with the fury of an wrathful god. Which is a neat gimmick I guess but I much prefer the original single phase version, it was the hardest and most satisfying boss battle in the original for me. All things considered Yusuke is kind of designed to be baton passed to, even at that point. So that's at least kind of neat/fitting?
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Mar 15, 2020 08:09
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Sapozhnik posted:For Madarame, the remake added a second phase where he spawns lovely elemental clones constantly so the idea is you have to chain together a full baton pass and then have Ryuji (whoever) finish up by punching him with the fury of an wrathful god. Which is a neat gimmick I guess but I much prefer the original single phase version, it was the hardest and most satisfying boss battle in the original for me. Okumura has a robot version of Haru with him in Royal.
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Mar 15, 2020 15:00
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All the Dungeons have been remixed and there are more activities and such in free time.
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also after every interminably drawn out social event you do you now get a phone call where the interactee talks about even more interminable bullshit apparently somebody on p5r's dev team really thought that a major problem with p5 was that it didn't have enough filler.
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Mar 15, 2020 23:10
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now he's free to spread plague! the plague of not finishing your book! e: just realized this is the wrong thread for this but its also funny so HIJK fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Mar 16, 2020 |
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Mar 16, 2020 00:26
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If you're curious about how they changed the scene with the gay predators: https://twitter.com/Shock_and_Roll/status/1239917795531460610?s=19 Like, they're not loving with the models so there's only so much they can do, but it's not terrible.
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Mar 17, 2020 16:40
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I guess it’s a better form of stereotyping than before, for whatever that’s worth.
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Looks like the English localization renamed the characters to Julian (from Juliana) and Angel (from Angela). (They didn't have names in the base game, but the Japanese release of Royal also altered their dialogue, though not in the same fashion as the English release of Royal based on these screenshots. The Royal revisions removed the monster references and instead cast Juliana and Angela as the "faeries of Shinjuku".)
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Arist posted:If you're curious about how they changed the scene with the gay predators: I mean... it is an improvement. I'll give them that. It's still not good, but for something coming out of Japan it's legitimately better than I would expect.
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Stroth posted:I mean... it is an improvement. I'll give them that. It's still not good, but for something coming out of Japan it's legitimately better than I would expect. there is a vibrant community of gay artists in japan there are plenty of mainstream creators in japan who show empathy and understanding towards gay people both in their work and personal conduct, even if they don't belong to that community japan is not uniquely worse than america in this regard when you say stuff like this you're both demeaning all those people and giving poo poo like this a pass here is an interview with a japanese transwoman who makes indie games i'd advise you to read. quote:With last year’s game, The Missing, there was a lot of western commentary that was along the lines of “it’s great to see something so thoughtful and sensitive about LGBT+ issues from a dev in Japan, which struggles with those issues,” as though we don’t have the same issues. quote:But I mean, that’s just it – we get great LGBT+ rep in some media and we get awful in some others, and we get people fighting for equal rights (like gay marriage) while we also get politicians saying women are causing witch hunts with MeToo. Criticize this kind of thing as the exceptionally stupid poo poo that it is, don't write off an entire country's art and the beautiful, brilliant stuff it's created because an AAA game had lovely side characters in it. Marvel's had bad gay/trans rep this year and saying it's 'better than I'd expect from America' would be ludicrous. I'm sorry if I seem mad about this but as a gay person who's barely ever felt seen by western gay art but has gotten a ton out of stuff coming out of Japan, this sorta response is intensely frustrating. in conclusion, 'so, wanna go out, or' is a good manga Endorph fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Mar 19, 2020 |
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Mar 19, 2020 09:26
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Yeah I've seen so much bullshit from the usual crowd claiming that Hoshino's homophobia is completely normal and the way things are in Japan. Apparently the Japanese version of Royale also toned those characters down according to the replies to that thread which kinda wrecks the entire false narrative the bigots are trying to push.
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Endorph posted:I'm sorry if I seem mad about this but as a gay person who's barely ever felt seen by western gay art but has gotten a ton out of stuff coming out of Japan, this sorta response is intensely frustrating. And I'm not just saying that because it annoys me too.
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Also outside of game/anime stuff, one of the most popular/ubiquitous mainstream TV personalities in Japan who appears in tons of TV shows and commercials is a transwoman, considering things like that it is annoying when people automatically assume that Japan is bad regarding LGBT issues when it may be more progressive in some cases. In other news P5S is really good, my only real complaint with it is that the loading times on Switch are awful. Not sure if the PS4 version is better about that.
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switch has pretty bad load times generally compared to disc based games, its something i noticed in a fair few games. seems like just an issue of the hardware. maybe its the weird carts they use, though traditionally carts have been better about load times, not worse
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Endorph posted:switch has pretty bad load times generally compared to disc based games, its something i noticed in a fair few games. seems like just an issue of the hardware. maybe its the weird carts they use, though traditionally carts have been better about load times, not worse The read speed I see for a switch using a MicroSD card is slower than even a platter drive by a fair amount. 80 MB/sec is slow as hell.
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Endorph posted:the japanese aren't backwards homophobes with no understanding of social norms relating to gay people Gay culture in Japan is a long and interesting history that gets erased every time katsura hashino does a thing. Dude's just awful and i'm really looking forward to him not being involved in the next game. This wasn't even a problem in the series until P3. Tatsuya and Jun's whole deal in Persona 2 was well written and realistic. Hashino just sucks, I hope Shoji Meguro has it in him to direct another Persona.
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I actually read a pretty interesting take on Erica from Catherine from a trans woman who praised the character for not being defined by her trans-ness or trauma. Even the weird comments she gets from the rest of the group were explained as both "Vincent's a dick" and "while it sucks it's kind of realistic in that regard." One of the main sticking points was the game resisting the impulse to show her pre-transition. And then, in a classic Hashino move, guess what they do in Full Body, lmao
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Arist posted:And then, in a classic Hashino move, guess what they do in Full Body, lmao Persona is generally like "well it's an astounding game that's worth playing but you have to ignore a few scenes" Full Body was like "okay nope, full stop i'm ejecting this poo poo out of my PS4 and flinging it away from me as hard as I can"
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even if you disregard the regressive stuff, the added material in full body was so loving stupid just look at the reveal of the "angels" in qatherine's scenario, it's this shrill, juvenile, witless bullshit that's somehow incongruous even in a game rated T the same applies to p5 royal from what i've seen and heard
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Arist posted:I actually read a pretty interesting take on Erica from Catherine from a trans woman who praised the character for not being defined by her trans-ness or trauma. Even the weird comments she gets from the rest of the group were explained as both "Vincent's a dick" and "while it sucks it's kind of realistic in that regard." One of the main sticking points was the game resisting the impulse to show her pre-transition. And then, in a classic Hashino move, guess what they do in Full Body, lmao Then, yeah, full body
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Still wondering if I should grab the ultimate edition for all the DLC... they haven't given any indication what's in those 6 DLC packs have they?
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Is the DLC for the basic version of the game compatible with Royal? I think I got some of it so it'd be good if it worked in Royal as well.
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thebardyspoon posted:Is the DLC for the basic version of the game compatible with Royal? I think I got some of it so it'd be good if it worked in Royal as well. They included it all in Royal as a free bonus. Which does kinda suck for those of us that bought the original's DLC.
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Was there any DLC besides costumes and personas from other games?
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Item Getter posted:Was there any DLC besides costumes and personas from other games? Other than a free item pack or two, I don't think so.
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seiferguy posted:Still wondering if I should grab the ultimate edition for all the DLC... they haven't given any indication what's in those 6 DLC packs have they? Some new costumes, some battle packs that I have no idea the contents of, and new Personas, I think.
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the battle packs are boss fights against yu and minato, i think
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So apparently the release date for Royal got moved to today here in Australia, don't know if it's retailers saying gently caress it or will end up being universal?
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We should probably a new thread just to detail some of the changes in the OP so there's an easier source of information on that stuff. I also hear that there's possibly some sort of requirement in terms of Confidants for the new chapter, so that should go in there too if so.
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screaden posted:So apparently the release date for Royal got moved to today here in Australia, don't know if it's retailers saying gently caress it or will end up being universal? In Australia they are trying to get rid of it before retail gets shuttered. Might happen in other places who knows.
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I threw together a bad thread for Royal here, just to cover some of the base questions people might have: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3918515
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