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I played the gently caress out of the first game but ran out of steam in the second big area, or whichever bit was the pretty part of Mordor. Also those dogs that could go up vertical cliffs were cool. Also also that slide tackle you could do. I liked just decking an orc with that and then running away. At least, I think that was this. Could've just been Batman. I remember doing it in that too. It'd be nice if you could get some kind of run fast power this time. I know there was one but I seem to remember it being disappointing.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:I do wonder where the story can really go in this game. We can't actually conquer Mordor and Gondor before the events of lotr even happen. I'd honestly prefer it if they just straight up went with an alternate universe or something. Having to fit the established canon will only stifle more interesting ideas.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:I do wonder where the story can really go in this game. We can't actually conquer Mordor and Gondor before the events of lotr even happen. I think it will be something along these lines towards the end: -Defeats Saurons body- "Now all must learn our peaceful ways... by force!" -Saurons spirit works it's own magic via the Nazgul spirits and forces the seperation of Celebrimbor and Talion- "Argghhh" "Now I will have your new ring and use it to empower me as lord of badness" "No you will not!" and then talion jumps into the lava pit with the new ring. Then if they need to make a sequel they just re-make the "Legacy of Kain: Soulreaver" opening.
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Iron Crowned posted:Probably some kind of puppet situation where Sauron is using you to unite an army for himself. I mean that's what I thought watching the gameplay video. Oh yeah it's just an idle curiosity. I am going to orc the poo poo out of middle earth.
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Mar 9, 2017 22:34
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Zarah posted:I'd honestly prefer it if they just straight up went with an alternate universe or something. Having to fit the established canon will only stifle more interesting ideas. It's all so ridiculously off-book--content and tone wise--that I'm pretty sure these games would have been set in some made up fantasy world if not for WB's mandate for synergistic brand design solutions, AKA "everything's gotta tie into our movie IPs somehow!"
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Mordja posted:It's all so ridiculously off-book--content and tone wise--that I'm pretty sure these games would have been set in some made up fantasy world if not for WB's mandate for synergistic brand design solutions, AKA "everything's gotta tie into our movie IPs somehow!" Yeah the "established canon" was nowhere in sight of SoM and this is taking it even further (which, as a huge LOTR nerd, im totally fine with). It's exactly what LOTR: Online did and what you have to do to make an interesting game...bring it on, let me fight and tame Balrogs. Go all out, there's tons of cool poo poo in LOTR lore to mine for fun video games. theres even a quote from JRR Tolkein that I can't find about how he imagined other authors picking up the LOTR universe and writing in it and how absurd that seemed (as if anyone would ever care enough to do it). Oh if only you could be around to see what's come of your work, professor... my bony fealty fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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my bony fealty posted:bring it on, let me fight and tame Balrogs God, I hope so.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I found this nice little interview with an art director. He talked about some additional stuff I think you all would find interesting. looks loving great. the one part of the inteview that hyped me is that they are moving away they are basically joining the campaign and the nemesis system together. no prenoted enimes and new overlords and captains can be born out of grunts like in 1.
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Mar 10, 2017 00:06
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Difficulty modes is the best news for this. To get the most out of the nemesis system, you really need the game to be a challenge for whatever your skill level is. Intentionally gimping your dude just isn't the same.
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Mar 10, 2017 00:33
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Easterlings look so badass yet we never got to see them fight in the films. It would be ace if we could get them in this game.
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Mar 10, 2017 00:35
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BillBear posted:Easterlings look so badass yet we never got to see them fight in the films. It would be ace if we could get them in this game. yeah, i hope easterlings are in it.
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Mar 10, 2017 01:03
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It looks like we can do more with Celebrimbor in this game, it looked like he had some sort of wraith spear and that just makes me super excited.
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Makin' me want to replay SoM. Alternatively, makin' me want to Rip van Winkle my way to August.
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Mar 10, 2017 05:20
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/shadow-of-wars-dev-on-new-nemesis-system-movie-con/1100-6448595/ Here's an interview with one of the developers about the game. Don't think it's been linked yet.
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Mar 10, 2017 05:31
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Lprsti99 posted:Makin' me want to replay SoM. Alternatively, makin' me want to Rip van Winkle my way to August.
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Epi Lepi posted:http://www.gamespot.com/articles/shadow-of-wars-dev-on-new-nemesis-system-movie-con/1100-6448595/ I guess it would make sense that we're not rear end deep in Balrogs all the time, given that there's like, five of them left or something, but still kind of a bummer.
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Mar 10, 2017 06:31
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If my understanding of timezones is correct (it should be the same time at the same time all over the world imho), the first Shadow of War livestream starts in about 30 minutes over at: https://www.twitch.tv/monolithlive
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I'm replaying Shadow of Mordor and wow, it really should have had difficulty settings. Glad Shadow of War(dor) is getting them.
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Stream is up now!
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Doesn't look like they're actually answering questions or looking at the chat. If someone is around when they do start answering questions, can they ask my question about whether the Orc Champions and stuff are cosmetic or actual stats, and whether they are opt-in or not?
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Stream had a buttload of information, was pleasantly surprised at how long it went on, but there was nothing really super major. If you missed it you can watch the VOD here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/127773772 They went through the trailers and talked about them followed by ca 1 hour or so of QA. Things i cared about enough to remember: Difficulty settings - easy, normal, hard Seem to have taken to heart the criticism of small maps from the original and have made much larger and plentiful maps Talion will grow out his beard again Also there was something about getting special "tribes" of orks from the Gold Edition of the game? But no real info on what a tribe is and what the exclusive gold edition ones are like. Dongattack fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 00:59
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So each map is going to contain strongholds, side activities, AND the fortress. Might get repetitive after a while.
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Mar 11, 2017 01:18
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That all sounds like old news. I'll have to watch the video. It comes out around my birthday.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qre0RyY0gMQ
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Josef bugman posted:This looks incredible. But I am going to do what I did in the last game and just not get any of the health upgrades at all. That way I can be sure I am going to die in one hit and it forces me to play a bit better. Yep. Don't buy the power ups, turn off the attack prompts if you want, and suddenly the game is much, much different.
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peer posted:Looks like maybe they're playing up the "bright lord" part of the player character a little bit more? I hope so, elf dude was cool and main dude was hella boring. I liked playing as the evil guy or lady skin more and just pretended I wasn't boring ranger guy
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clone on the phone posted:I liked playing as the evil guy or lady skin more and just pretended I wasn't boring ranger guy
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you lost me when you compared the first one to batman instead of assassins creed
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jynn posted:you lost me when you compared the first one to batman instead of assassins creed It was far closer to Batman than Assassin's Creed, so you were probably lost way before then.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:I do wonder where the story can really go in this game. We can't actually conquer Mordor and Gondor before the events of lotr even happen. My theory is that Talion is who eventually becomes The Mouth of Sauron, and this is all plot by Sauron to unite the Orcs under him so that when he returns he doesn't have to go around lopping off chieftain heads himself.
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Omnicarus posted:My theory is that Talion is who eventually becomes The Mouth of Sauron, and this is all plot by Sauron to unite the Orcs under him so that when he returns he doesn't have to go around lopping off chieftain heads himself. Haha, yes! That would be really funny, the ending cinematic just being Aragorn unceremoniously lopping off your head. Edit: Was more of a joke, but i wouldn't mind the character going in that direction really. Maybe get a third game where we truly go dark side and then die/horribly break canon at the end. The Mouth of Sauron as he was in the movies is a really cool character. I can't imagine the devs taking the game this direction tho :P Dongattack fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:I do wonder where the story can really go in this game. We can't actually conquer Mordor and Gondor before the events of lotr even happen. I hope they go full fanfiction and disregard the events of lotr. Do something like Telltale's Batman games, who deviate from canon to avoid telling a story already told.
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LupusAter posted:I hope they go full fanfiction and disregard the events of lotr. Do something like Telltale's Batman games, who deviate from canon to avoid telling a story already told. Yeah, this would be my preference. I don't really like the trope of the ending revealing that you were the bad guys pawn the whole time and the game was pointless or actively detrimental. You want to use that cliche as your preface to the boss fight? Sure, whatever, I still get to kill the bad guy. But to just spend the entire game trolling to player so even their victory is a defeat? gently caress off, it's a game, you're not being witty or creative. [EDIT]Not counting games where the default ending is like that but the player can earn a Good Ending through enough effort or perfection of play.
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Zaodai posted:Yeah, this would be my preference. I don't really like the trope of the ending revealing that you were the bad guys pawn the whole time and the game was pointless or actively detrimental. You want to use that cliche as your preface to the boss fight? Sure, whatever, I still get to kill the bad guy. But to just spend the entire game trolling to player so even their victory is a defeat? gently caress off, it's a game, you're not being witty or creative. I just played through Bright Lord and it's basically this. You're a total badass with the One Ring, and you kill everyone twice (including Sauron) and then scwhoops you're a wraith forever. I found Bright Lord to be significantly harder than the main campaign, and I died a whole bunch of times. I played Lord of the Hunt right before it and I don't think I even died once, and basically had to try hard to die in the main campaign.
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I don't think Celebrimbor and Talion know that Sauron has bound his life-force into a nigh indestructible ring of power. Wouldn't surprise me if you destroy Sauron's body at the end of SoW, but surprise, some little dude named Bilbo has the Ring in the Shire so he's not really dead!
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AngryBooch posted:I don't think Celebrimbor and Talion know that Sauron has bound his life-force into a nigh indestructible ring of power. Wouldn't surprise me if you destroy Sauron's body at the end of SoW, but surprise, some little dude named Bilbo has the Ring in the Shire so he's not really dead! See, that would be fine. You get your victory, story goes on. Like Castlevania.
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AngryBooch posted:I don't think Celebrimbor and Talion know that Sauron has bound his life-force into a nigh indestructible ring of power. Wouldn't surprise me if you destroy Sauron's body at the end of SoW, but surprise, some little dude named Bilbo has the Ring in the Shire so he's not really dead! thats kinda what i expect will happen. he will "kill" sauron and render him into just a eye. or maybe they go full inglorious bastards. either way will be a blast.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:or maybe they go full inglorious bastards. But how do we lure Sauron into the theater?
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I just hope we don't gotta fight in a loving basement.
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Zaodai posted:But how do we lure Sauron into the theater? Make a movie about a national orc sniper hero
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