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Max
Nov 30, 2002

Dear Daniels,

I never talked to you, and don't really care about you at all.

Please die.

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Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Max posted:

Dear Daniels,

I never talked to you, and don't really care about you at all.

Please die.

man between me and Chell you're gonna have to watch your back m8

...ok maybe just Chell but still

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Foundation could have paid me to care but :shrug:

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
:hb: ... --- ... :hb:

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
.-..---.-..

Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Discord posted:

quidnose - 04/01/2017
Yay~
Glad this aligned with spring break!
...to start, at least :v

peramene - 04/01/2017
especially after the first few days, it'll only take a few minutes per day, don't worry
it is Chill AF

Queen of the liars now and forever, it seems.....

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Quidthulhu posted:

Queen of the liars now and forever, it seems.....

It's not a lie if it's an honest belief but yeah I won't be saying this about Riven.

Here's what fucks me up okay - here's what fucks me up:

There was no voting. There was no strategy about who they had to eliminate in order to make it to the end.

We all got scooped up into collaborative storytelling and like, it's not like there was really all that much to talk about.

(Max and Asiina have the right to state otherwise - Rime was a bitch)

Mechanically speaking, it really ought to have taken just a bit of time - yeah I'm gonna go here to do this thing, alright, you go there and do that thing. That's just not what happened.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
post the SLasher logs

Capt. Kent Daniels
May 4, 2017

"Are you seriously going to punch this tortured dude with PTSD in the face"

"YES."

Poque posted:

:hb: ... --- ... :hb:

.---- ...-- ..... -...

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

Capt. Kent Daniels posted:

.---- ...-- ..... -...

I didn't even have to translate this

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

peramene posted:

It's not a lie if it's an honest belief but yeah I won't be saying this about Riven.

Here's what fucks me up okay - here's what fucks me up:

There was no voting. There was no strategy about who they had to eliminate in order to make it to the end.

We all got scooped up into collaborative storytelling and like, it's not like there was really all that much to talk about.

(Max and Asiina have the right to state otherwise - Rime was a bitch)

Mechanically speaking, it really ought to have taken just a bit of time - yeah I'm gonna go here to do this thing, alright, you go there and do that thing. That's just not what happened.

Can't really agree with this assessment.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Rime was definitely a gauntlet and it's a good thing that happened on a quiet weekend because I was not prepared for how long that went for, and there wasn't much indication how many puzzles that was going to be (and, ahem, how a few of them were impossible at first.)

I think a warning when something is going to require a lot of your attention at once is definitely a good thing, like the KTANE puzzle. I think Rime just said "let me know when you've figured out who will do this."

Otherwise, I think the immersive nature of the game was on us, since you're right, there was a lot of down time, but we all just kinda got into the role playing aspect of it.

I know early on when I was essentially alone in an area for two full turns, I exhausted all my options early on, and then got bored and well, here's a skull sword now.

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
I am open to any and all critiques (even if you don't quite possess the vernacular to do so super politely - hit me) from any and all.

I've said this before but very much like Cyan in 1993, I just had to smash into it and see what was crap and what wasn't.

I endeavor to far succeed the growth they experienced from Myst to Riven.

Also, "Asiina" says she'll release me from the last four months of my due penance with THIS wren-wrought monstrosity of an avatar (which is cute, in a way, but one must dress for the job they want, and I intend to look forward to my birthday for the next several years.)

Any and all help with ideas for what I should have my lead artist draw up for me would be delightful as well.

By the way - confessional submissions remain open (TO PLAYERS you son of a bitch) and it would be really nice to have Last Words and Afterthoughts from everyone... but I know that's just not going to happen. It's okay.

There are also some more surprises over the next few weeks? Things in the works.

It will take me a few days to do the immediate necessaries, but my priority list for releases is:

- Authorial Confessionals

- An "Abridged Version," lacking any of Ghen's content and mostly allowing for quick reminders - very helpful for March.

- The complete version, with "filler" content ditched, Gehn's content - and a brief epilogue. There's some holes that need filling and some nonsense that needs drilling but it is my intention to take what you've all given me and build for each of us the wonderful narrative I originally set out to.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Apogolies if it came off this way, but my comment about the time thing isnt supposed to be read as a critique or a negative comment. I just disagree that the mechanics were loose enough to imply quick play, given that with games like these the bulk of the time commitment comes from interaction with other players rather than mechanics. FWIW I was fine with the level of engagement the game demanded and thought it operated on a much more flexible schedule than any other FRG I've seen.


The most contrary thing to could say is that there absolutely was strategy on who to eliminate giving the competing wincons of some people? Again not a criticism of the game, because I thought the design was very innovative and well made. I just think your assessment of why the game was so engaging is off. I think it was engaging precisely because of the mechanical depth and blend of unique game elements. Just my read.

I think the biggest "problems" with it are the amount of moderator labour and the infrastructure of the game putting the most weight on the top level person to keep the game running. With a rather intense hour to hour schedule. That's pretty much going to be true of any FRG, and the appropriate level really depends on what the moderator is able to handle. As a player, i thought you handled it well, but it seems daunting.

Jump King fucked around with this message at 00:19 on May 6, 2017

Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

And I was just being snarky for comedic effect. I think it's a wonderful thing you did and everyone seemed to be really into it, and if it had been summer I totally would have been. But I had zero chance, and as a result I had so little idea what was going on. Once it had all passed me by, I feel like there as very little chance to get a bead on anything again, but that may have just been me.

It as definitely successful, though, because you had people who were eating living and breathing all this. I just didn't get it ever :v

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
Multiple updates to the OP. Reasonably confident I can get the abridged rundown today, too.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
WHO KILLS CORN

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Poque posted:

WHO KILLS CORN

Hey you should do a postgame confessional too, all the cool kids are doing it!

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
Yeah when I'm not wasted

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

by Fluffdaddy


Updated the OP too but the picture above will now take you to the finalized (I think?) Myst Library which will allow you to access a variety of information from the game including but not limited to pre-written material, character sheets (some of which aren't 100% done - relax about it)

I happen to think it looks rather nice like this and I always wanted to have my own Myst library so if you disagree you can help yourself to a penis.

peramene fucked around with this message at 05:53 on May 7, 2017

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer
I was inspired by that one xkcd comic about movie plotlines to do a thing so I did a thing. Time is on the X-axis, Y-axis is essentially location.



Click for MASSIVE

Asiina fucked around with this message at 00:29 on May 9, 2017

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
Holy gently caress Asiina.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

Asiina posted:

I was inspired by that one xkcd comic about movie plotlines to do a thing so I did a thing. Time is on the X-axis, Y-axis is essentially location.



Click for MASSIVE

:stare:

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Look at that beautiful Zanzian line

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


@pera What does the Zanzian line taste like

Also what do all the other lines taste like

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
I'll tell you next puzzlephase.

Speaking of telling you things:

Myst: The Book of Sa, Volume I - Abridged is ready for your ravenous consumption.

peramene
Oct 13, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
Mechanical's End

Most Ages get to gradually destabilize over a period of years, but the hours-long radioactive pulsewave decimated the population and tore at the understructure of the Age so severely that less than ten days after the Second Expedition departed it, at last, the Mechanical Age came to an end.



art by bagshotrow

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Full res because my goodness: https://i.imgur.com/dyyJjWP.jpg

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Don't forget the other one!

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


okay so during the prequel Klendu mafia game, I ended up starting a peraMyst Abridged Series to try and recap what the hell we were talking about for the non-Myst players. I will start cross-posting all those posts in here so I can then continue to the dramatic conclusion!



Once upon a time there was an Age called Something Awful 5a Sa. It was a fairly stable Age, but its people had some pretty hosed up traditions involving lynches and town and scum. In fact, even in the professional expeditions of the Sa Mapping and Archaeology Foundation (SAMAF), its members would sometimes land on some Age they were supposed to be exploring together, only to suddenly devolve into fighting each other to the death just to see who could score the most points.



Maybe that’s why they only sent 2 people out on this one. One day, a talented scout named Zulea O’Hara was out exploring some age called Pento (you don’t need to remember this name) with her beloved Captain: Operative Kent Daniels. And they found a MYST BOOK! This was a big loving deal.



They brought the Myst book back to Sa, and then made the first expedition to Myst. When they got there they found a library FULL of books, maybe they could even be more linking books! But there were 2 bad dudes setting them on fire! Captain Daniels confronted these evil men, only to get his rear end shot with a crossbow. What would happen next?!

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!




Captain Daniels got his rear end shot with a crossbow, and was captured by the two Myst men. He left a lot of blood around the statue garden for people to obsess over and investigate later, but for now, his fate is unknown.

Meanwhile, Zulea tried to escape, and was able to put out the fire in the library. But a ~mysterious voice~ called out through the Sa communicators:

”GET HER!"



Back on Sa: The Honorable Cornelius “Corn” Crowell heard this voice and presumed it was an order to evacuate Zulea immediately. This was actually a big no-no and against standard protocol but – nah, she’ll be right mate. He just had to make sure to blow up the Sa linking book behind him so the whole Age wouldn’t be invaded. No big deal. And the link-in point was guarded for weeks with no sign of intruders, so everything seemed cool. In fact, he thought there should be another expedition really soon!



Well, maybe it was his sister who originally had the idea. His sister was the Crown Princess, Tessa Ceschi, who wanted to be an adventurer. Or maybe she just wanted to go lie low somewhere cause all their other siblings had already been killed off by assassins. Either way.



Corn wrote a persuasive letter to the high council asking to establish a 2nd expedition to Myst. This one would be bigger, better, and less bamboozley! But at first, the request was denied. Until suddenly, it was ~mysteriously~ approved after all… and who all would be going?

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Previously on peraMYST: a 2nd expedition to Myst was on the way. But who would be going? Somehow, it ended up being a highly unusual group that was approved for it. This time, 20 people would be going, which is a lot to remember, but they can be roughly broken down into the following groups:



TEAM SNEAKY FOLKS, which has some overlap with

TEAM HIRED MUSCLE:



And TEAM RELIGIOUS NUTTERS:



That left the intellectual group, TEAM SCIENCE:



And then TEAM ROYAL FAMILY:



Last but not least, the scout Zulea O’Hara would be returning to Myst again, after going on trial for the alleged murder of Captain Daniels. She ended up being pardoned, but a lot of people weren’t buying it. People like famous badass pit fighter Chell Hendersen, (the Second) and the bitter, homeless, and violent thief Verus Rettig. Zulea knew she was on thin ice and she better watch her back.



So what was her first idea after the group arrived at the docks? Go off alone somewhere to chat with one person, away from the main group! Surely nothing will go wrong, and no one will get assassinated.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Previously on peraMYST: a ragtag group of 20 people linked into Myst. After arriving on the docks, they began to spread out and explore.



Most of the crew went to the Library, expecting that to be the best place to go for linking book action. However, the doors were sealed so no one could do anything yet except think about their wincons. The foul traditions of Sa were already taking root in the adventurer’s minds, making everyone wonder how to get the best of each other. Some people had noble goals, others had evil ones… but everyone had a rival or enemy they wished to outlive.



However, Corn Crowell, (now pictured with the moon icon) the closest thing to a leader so far, insisted that everyone could surely still work together, under the rule of “No Murders, No Bamboozles”. The popular pitfighter Chell seconded this sentiment, and vowed to help enforce it. The inventor Dr. Annie Carter also wished the group could work together, but wondered how much she could trust Corn’s words… after all, she was there with pure motives of discovery, and he was her rival that she wished to outlive out of spite. Surely that meant he must be a badguy in on some big evil conspiracy that reached to the top?!



Meanwhile, at the Statue Garden, a much smaller group split off and found a puzzle related to the star signs. They got some loot while they chatted amongst themselves, but the mysterious hermit Kemet Hays wasn’t saying much.

At the Cabin, Zulea had a private chat with Kaywinnet Lee Miller, a famous engineer and major VIP, the prestigious and successful Director of the Sa Science Institute! Unlike her brother…



Zanzian Miller, a mercenary who had been hired to protect the expedition. But how much could he be trusted with such a troubled and violent criminal past? (fwiw Auspol would love him, he robbed the hell out of this one rich dude) He had also split off from the group, sneaking his way back to the docks alone for some unknown reason.

Although Zan was quickly spotted, a couple others were much better at hiding, and remained unseen. How long was the No Murders rule really going to last?

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Previously on peraMYST: No Murders, No Bamboozles… yet. Spoilers: it wouldn’t last long.



Near the cabin, Kaywinnet and Zulea found a grave, which they dug up for loot. They found another Myst linking book, which would surely come in handy. But something was missing now from Kaywinnet’s inventory - her self-defense pistol!



It was stolen by Amaretto Groody, a shady wanted man who had somehow got into this expedition because…??? :shrug:
But he tried to play it off as being all chaotic good, and used the pistol to shoot open the lock on the cabin door. The rest of the island went into a panic, demanding answers after the gunshot rang out. But let’s table that for now! Kaywinnet found an amazing new weapon in the cabin: a D’Ni dagger made from some special alloy. And it was pinning up an ominous note…



Back at the library, the group determined that someone had to go turn on the power generator before anyone could get anything done around here. Chell volunteered to do this, attracting a small crowd of fanboys who all wanted to keep her beefy warrior rear end protected. (and also religious scam artist Sara Friedricks who was just trying to pickpocket people)



Meanwhile, on the docks, Zan tried to experiment with things, and started throwing rocks at all the mysterious technology that he really shouldn’t be throwing rocks at.



It set off some kind of electric trap that zapped Kaywinnet over at the cabin. She was wounded by this injury! Worst brother ever! But did he get hit by a trap as well? Zulea reported seeing Zan collapse on the docks.



A small team from the library was left to go investigate what happened. Annie would go with her sister Dr. Leanansidhe Carter, (just call her Lea for short) hoping to find cool technology there once the power was on. They were escorted by the archer/religious nutter Schelene Strangeland, a valued customer at the Carters’ store. All 3 were on high alert, ready to pounce on any potential attackers. Was there already a murder or bamboozle afoot?

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Previously, on peraMYST: What had happened to Zan on the docks?



MURDERS!?

Schelene and the Carters were joined by ex-pirate Petra Chow, but they were sure she hadn’t done it since she’d been with the statue garden crew the whole time. Instead the most suspicion fell on the people who were so sneaky they hadn’t been seen all day: Agent Anastasia Johnson and the enigmatic ”Podima”



But instead of giving an alibi, Pod claimed that there was no murder to begin with. Zan was still alive!

What? How? And how did Pod even know this? Where the hell was he? No one could see him at all up in his drat skybox. The dock team insisted that Zan had bled out a LOT and sure looked hella dead. But…



…turns out he was just really invested in faking it.

MURDERS: 0 BAMBOOZLES: 1

While all that was going on, Zulea had a look at the new Myst book they’d found. Could you use a linking book to Myst while you were ON Myst? Maybe it could teleport you! It was worth a try.



Nope, it was actually a trap prison book and Zulea’s stuck in the endless void now. That’ll teach you for graverobbing!

MURDERS: 0 BAMBOOZLES: 2

At least one productive thing happened though. Chell got the power turned on at the generator:



This opened several doors around the island, including the library, where they found a linking book! Who should go scout out this new and mysterious totally unknown age, where untold dangers could lie in wait?



How about the most high-value-target on this whole expedition: the Crown Princess? :v:

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Previously, on peraMYST: The Crown Princess went alone into a new Age. She named this age: J’nanin Yoshi’s Island.



Shockingly, everything went okay as she quickly solved the puzzles, and found a linking book to get herself back to Myst. The others waiting in the library had busied themselves by writing their own novels …let’s table that forever.



Kaywinnet was also trying to solve some puzzles at the Observatory. She brought out her treasured Book of Stars, a highly valuable book that might not even be from the Age of Sa, and could maybe tell the future?! She couldn’t figure it all out just yet, but Kaywinnet could tell there was some great mystery here, that only she could solve! Also, when she got back to Sa she was going to be only a few days from retirement!



Back at the docks, a door was now open, revealing an amazing device called the Dimensional Imager. By punching in some code off a note, a message appeared from an old guy named “Atrus”, whoever that was. Without any more leads to go on, Lea brute-forced all 100 of the possible single-entry codes, and found many interesting videos to watch. But what did any of it mean?

While they were checking that out, Chell did some test with the power and the door slammed back down, trapping Schelene and the Carters inside. It would be a few hours before the power could reset again, but this gave them a chance for some much-needed private discussion.



Lea revealed something she couldn’t talk about openly before – an elite agent of the Queen, Anastasia Johnson, was also on this expedition and out to kill her! Annie was determined to protect her sister and kill this agent first by any means possible… but tried to restrain her bloodlust around their ally Schelene, what with her being fanatically devoted to religious pacifism and all.
(however, she could not restrain her regular lust :v:)



Finally, Nihilist Mercenary Extraordinaire Harsha Brandkamp was feeling glum. It seemed like everyone had some cool complicated backstory except for her, and she wanted to stand out more. So she dug up Grandma Ti’Ana’s skull out of the goddamn grave and stuck it on her sword.

No more murders or bamboozles this time – will the trend continue?

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Previously, on peraMYST: No Murders, No Bamboozles, only some butt grabbing and a bit more graverobbing.

Once the power came back on, people were ready to move around again and Tim Yamashita wanted to “start some chaos.” Thus began The Battle of Two Arrows.



Timmy fired Arrow #1 from the observatory, aiming at Verus who was standing around the library just minding his own business. It missed, but Verus ran over to retaliate. They ended up in a dramatic duel to the death!



Both men had trained in the martial arts, but Tim couldn’t match up to Verus’ real-world experience fighting on the streets. But at least Tim fought to the end for what he believed in... starting drama and trolling Verus. With his last breaths, he threw wild accusations of Verus being a spy. Tim didn’t even get a burial as Verus literally threw his dead rear end off the island.



And during the battle, a surge of adrenaline suddenly struck everyone on the expedition, as if egging them on to go on the offensive. It was some kind of injection from their communicators! Who or what was behind this?!



The adrenaline still wasn’t enough though, for alleged pacifist and religious icon Sara Friedricks. She shot Arrow #2 but it harmlessly plinked off Corn Crowell, official tank of the expedition. Chell retaliated fiercely to make sure she shut that poo poo down. She stopped short of killing Sara, but things were not going well for Team Religious Nutters.

Meanwhile Kaywinnet tried to retreat from the battle, but left the observatory alone. This was not a good move, since she was still wounded, and she ran into someone who was much more effective in their attack…



Spoilers: With Sage D’ni Cultist Timmy and Genius Star Expert Kaywinnet both dead in the same day, any hope of opening some cool optional secret puzzle died along with them. Great work, everybody!

MURDERS: 2 BAMBOOZLES: 2



Over at the shore the Carters and Schelene were still off in their own little group, fetching Inventor Supplies. Annie and Lea were especially spooked by this murder of a fellow intellectual. They used the materials they gathered to invent a new contraption called the Slug Claw, which would attach to Schelene’s bow and allow her to grapple and scale things, like the bigass tree. They hoped this would help them set an ambush, but even better would be exposing Agent Anastasia as a murderer, so others would help bring her to justice. But just when Annie thought she could pin Kaywinnet’s death on their enemy… someone else confessed to the crime?!

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Previously, on peraMYST: MURDERS

At this point in the narrative, we really should get around to focusing on the hero of the story.



Agent Anastasia Johnson knew the truth of this expedition – it was Australia a death sentence. The real reason behind the dodgy criminals who got recruited? She’d seen to it personally. And also that troublesome Leanansidhe Carter, who’d accidentally discovered her identity. She had to be erased along with the others. …including the last two heirs to the Crown?

Welp, just roll with it, Command never mentioned it being a problem when their request got approved. Sometimes even she couldn’t be privy to all the information on a mission of this much importance.



When Kaywinnet was assassinated, Anastasia knew the killer must still be hiding in the garden. And they must be skilled – could it be another agent? Command had given her a special passcode, but they couldn’t return the signal. And the chatter on the public channel was trying to frame her up for the crime instead. Anastasia forced the murderer into the open – Captain Petra Chow!



Petra’s only motive seemed to be personal vengeance. Once a proud (and hot as gently caress) Captain of her own ship, Petra had fallen on hard times and resorted to piracy and petty theft. Kaywinnet, a big shot in their port town, had severely hindered Petra’s employment opportunities. And also hired some thugs to rough her up once, for looking a little too interested in that valuable book. Kaywinnet's shady brother might’ve been stalking Petra around too, but he can hardly be expected to remember some everyday details like that, hey?



But Petra had no idea what the Book of Stars or the Sign of the Maker really meant. This book could even end the world, and here she was idly ripping out pages to draw fake treasure maps as a prank.

Anastasia knew. She would make sure this threat was contained. She would save the day.

Surprisingly, Petra didn't have any hard feelings about being outed and confessed to the murder. Even the Carters, who’d befriended her at the docks, had to own up that Petra was the one responsible. But while Petra willingly claimed her kill, she had no intention of going quietly.



As most of the expedition made plans to subdue her, Petra turned off the power, closing the doors again and trapping most of the group inside the library.



It was a clever move… but it wasn’t enough.

There was still a group left outside: the Carter sisters, the highly skilled archer Schelene, and the mercenary Zanzian Miller, who was out to avenge his sister. And they were all still hopped up on adrenaline. The others were blocked from trying to apprehend Petra, but they were also blocked from interfering with the Carters.



The 4 converged on the garden, coordinating their attacks, and Sa’s greatest mind in espionage fell along with this common murderer. gently caress.

Bifauxnen fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Nov 2, 2017

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


all right, that's everything I wrote during the Mafia game, the rest might take longer cause I need to study up some more on what all happened in Channelwood!

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Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

i like the parts with me

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