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Main Paineframe posted:superdelegates didn't steal the election neithet did the russians.
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for as much democrats moan about the electoral college and how the popular vote doesn't determine the presidential election, they sure as poo poo are hypocritical when it comes to the structure of their own primaries with superdelegates
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Apr 3, 2017 23:14
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comedyblissoption posted:for as much democrats moan about the electoral college and how the popular vote doesn't determine the presidential election, they sure as poo poo are hypocritical when it comes to the structure of their own primaries with superdelegates Ahem *taps mic, leans in* "Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it's ok"
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comedyblissoption posted:for as much democrats moan about the electoral college and how the popular vote doesn't determine the presidential election, they sure as poo poo are hypocritical when it comes to the structure of their own primaries with superdelegates people generally only complain about things that matter
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Apr 4, 2017 05:28
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Main Paineframe posted:people generally only complain about things that matter lol what?
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Main Paineframe posted:people generally only complain about things that matter 🤔  🤔
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Apr 4, 2017 06:47
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Nah.
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Apr 4, 2017 06:47
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has anyone yet pointed out that carter page literally had repeated contacts with a russian spy who worked for the same development bank that kushner met with. the spy was also being targetted by preet bhrara. fuckin lol at all the tankies itt earnestly posting that there's nothing untoward about memebers of the trump team doing legit business with russians.
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Apr 4, 2017 10:08
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Bip Roberts posted:lol what? remember all the complaining about the electoral college in 2008 or 2012? me neither it's only when it plays a significant role in leading to an undesirable result that people bitch about it - like when a president you don't like loses the popular vote but still gets to be president
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Main Paineframe posted:remember all the complaining about the electoral college in 2008 or 2012? I was responding to the more general statement that "people only complain about things that matter" which is absurdly false and probably even negatively correlated.
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Apr 4, 2017 22:19
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Apr 4, 2017 22:47
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Gringostar posted:
Not having a message that motivates your own voters is pretty bad too though
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Gringostar posted:
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comedyblissoption posted:this is a map of people dissatisfied with american politics i think moreso than a map of voter suppression people are really bad at acknowledging more than one thing can affect an outcome at a time itt
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Apr 4, 2017 23:31
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Not a Step posted:Not having a message that motivates your own voters is pretty bad too though comedyblissoption posted:this is a map of people dissatisfied with american politics i think moreso than a map of voter suppression Putin's goal was to depress turnout by undermining faith in the US electoral system as well as to diminish Clinton and advantage Trump.
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Apr 5, 2017 00:03
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I stole the election for Hillary you're welcome
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Apr 5, 2017 00:10
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It was easy as pie all I had to do was post on the internet
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Apr 5, 2017 00:11
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logikv9 posted:I stole the election for Hillary you're welcome boy are you in trouble when we have your quarterly performance review
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JeffersonClay posted:Putin's goal was to depress turnout by undermining faith in the US electoral system as well as to diminish Clinton and advantage Trump. was about the same as 2012, so...
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comedyblissoption posted:for as much democrats moan about the electoral college and how the popular vote doesn't determine the presidential election, they sure as poo poo are hypocritical when it comes to the structure of their own primaries with superdelegates republicans have won the popular vote 1/5 times and the presidency 3/5 times since the year 2000 dem superdelegates did not and afaik have never caused the winner of the party's popular vote to lose the primary that seems like a pretty big difference
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Yeah, superdelegates have no influence when the media reports candidate X winning with 350 delegates before a single ballot is cast/caucus caucussed. E: just like money has no influence on politics And misinformation never sways public opinion. Corky Romanovsky has issued a correction as of 02:44 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Apr 5, 2017 02:42
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superdelegates is to bernie as russia is to hillary imo
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Yeah, superdelegates have no influence when the media reports candidate X winning with 350 delegates before a single ballot is cast/caucus caucussed. sounds like u got... superowned
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Apr 5, 2017 02:58
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wizard on a water slide posted:republicans have won the popular vote 1/5 times and the presidency 3/5 times since the year 2000 the fact they haven't had to invoke the nuclear option yet doesn't somehow mean that superdelegates aren't a terribly undemocratic system. as head of the dnc, blowing off criticism of them by invoking russians is farcical.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:27
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comedyblissoption posted:superdelegates are a democratic party invention that only exists so that the democratic party can try to overturn a popular vote while attempting to claim legitimacy Superdelegates exist so if there's a three way race where no one gets a majority they can avoid an equally undemocratic convention fight.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:35
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Yeah, superdelegates have no influence when the media reports candidate X winning with 350 delegates before a single ballot is cast/caucus caucussed. lol if you think that had a meaningful effect on the primary result
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Bip Roberts posted:Superdelegates exist so if there's a three way race where no one gets a majority they can avoid an equally undemocratic convention fight.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:38
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is this before or after we nuke caucuses or are they still "good"
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Apr 5, 2017 03:38
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no poo poo there are better options but superdelegates didn't steal the election
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Apr 5, 2017 03:49
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Main Paineframe posted:lol if you think that had a meaningful effect on the primary result Inasmuch as they influenced the conversation and helped to frame certain possibilities as inevitabilities (e.g. "don't waste your time with Bernie because the superdelegates are in the bag for Clinton"), they had about as much an effect as Russia did on the general.
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Apr 5, 2017 03:50
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i never said they stole an election. i said they are an incredibly undemocratic institution. complaining about the electoral college while keeping around something even more undemocratic is called hypocrisy. even the republicans dont have something as stupid in their primary system.
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comedyblissoption posted:i never said they stole an election. i said they are an incredibly undemocratic institution. complaining about the electoral college while keeping around something even more undemocratic is called hypocrisy. even the republicans dont have something as stupid in their primary system. No, the winner take all events the Republican Primary has are way worse.
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logikv9 posted:is this before or after we nuke caucuses or are they still "good" look at who won them and then search your feelings
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JeffersonClay posted:Putin's goal was to depress turnout by undermining faith in the US electoral system as well as to diminish Clinton and advantage Trump. 
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the trump tutelage posted:Inasmuch as they influenced the conversation and helped to frame certain possibilities as inevitabilities (e.g. "don't waste your time with Bernie because the superdelegates are in the bag for Clinton"), they had about as much an effect as Russia did on the general. It's heartening to see that the Republicans care so much about whether or not the Democratic primaries were fair to a candidate that goes against everything they stand for. Real noble of them
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gwarsh https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/855179842840604672
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Apr 20, 2017 23:38
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Like, what are they invoicing him for?
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Apr 20, 2017 23:44
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get hype y'all, he's gonna flip bigly
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Like, what are they invoicing him for? apparently the cia tools that were leaked after trump was voted into office oops
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