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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
only capitalism can make good cars

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Fiction posted:

you have an interesting view of russian history my guy

ok the second part is true but boo hoo the poor counterrevolutionaries who wanted to return to basically feudalism :(

My great-grandparents were starved to death in the Gulag. They didn't want to return to feudalism.

It's not okay to minimize Stalin's atrocities.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Soviet animation was cool as heck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvwTSp26jB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wImBk5PO9GQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HemtuqGZBI4

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Plus their film industry gave us easily the best MST3K episode.

(also a lot of genuinely good movies)

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

old cars :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Majorian posted:

My great-grandparents were starved to death in the Gulag. They didn't want to return to feudalism.

It's not okay to minimize Stalin's atrocities.

he made the trains (to the labor camp) run on time

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Fallen Hamprince posted:

he made the trains (to the labor camp) run on time

This is true, and I think NKVD uniforms were actually kind of underrated.

So it balances out.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

*tfw u love jackboots but it's socially unacceptable to vocally believe in white supremacy* "actually, stalin did many good things"

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Alexandra Kolentai.


Thread fin

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Eifert Posting posted:

Alexandra Kolentai.


Thread fin

Yay blatant tokenism, followed by shunting her waaaay off to the side.

e: the tokenism was on the government's part, not yours, obviously.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Scientific atheism and the state offically supressing religon. If we can adopt a single soviet policy it should be that one. I also really like how the bolsheviks taugth the avant garde artists a lesson in humility. Just because there has been a revolution does not entitle you do whatever the gently caress you want, serve the people with your art or get hosed. That kind of firm cultural leadership is needed today.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


Hmm, this is incredible and brilliant.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Majorian posted:

Yay blatant tokenism, followed by shunting her waaaay off to the side.

e: the tokenism was on the government's part, not yours, obviously.

I'm talking more about her opinions than the implementation.


My dream for the afterlife is that you can basically just view all of human history and alter things and see what happens. Like "What if Buharin had noticed that Stalin was literally a monster?" things like that.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Germans are a little more famous for that.

Noun Verber
Oct 12, 2006

Cool party, guys.
Best part about slavs is how angry they get when people refer to whites as 'caucasians' because it implies they've been committing white genocide for centuries (which they have).

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

zegermans posted:

If only KSP was around in the 60s to tell the Soviets how loving dumb this was as an idea



I'm P sure that's how I got to minimus

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Noun Verber posted:

Best part about slavs is how angry they get when people refer to whites as 'caucasians' because it implies they've been committing white genocide for centuries (which they have).

Yeah they should be proud instead

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
*ignores genetics in favor of a guy who thinks plants magically transform into different plants*

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Sun Wu Kampf posted:

*ignores genetics in favor of a guy who thinks plants magically transform into different plants*

Evolution is a capitalist lie.

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Lysenko Did Nothing Wrong

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

the soviet sports society system is pretty fascinating tbh

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

*doesn't pull goalie in 3rd period*

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqdiEUp6s4E

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XALj24n1F2k

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TAmISW76Rk

have to turn on the cc for this one. the background work and character designs are insane

Big Fat Iguana
Aug 21, 2016

remember. and never lie.
Letting their working space shuttle clone rot :smith::

Edit: I mean look at this poor baby. Criminal!

Big Fat Iguana has issued a correction as of 09:00 on Mar 11, 2017

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
rip Komarov

Fauxbot
Jan 20, 2009

I need more wine.
stalin did nothing wrong

and i must meme
Jan 15, 2017

zegermans posted:

Evolution is a capitalist lie.

what's dumber

'evolution is a capitalist lie'

or

'global warming is a leftist conspiracy'

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Big Fat Iguana posted:

Letting their working space shuttle clone rot :smith::

Edit: I mean look at this poor baby. Criminal!



That just means they were a few decades ahead of the US.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Big Fat Iguana posted:

Letting their working space shuttle clone rot :smith::

Edit: I mean look at this poor baby. Criminal!



space shuttles are stupid as hell anyway

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless






Concordski

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


Majorian posted:

My great-grandparents were starved to death in the Gulag. They didn't want to return to feudalism.

It's not okay to minimize Stalin's atrocities.

Stalin good

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

JFairfax posted:







Concordski





B-1B Lancerski


My cousin had a deck of commercial airplane cards that had lists of stats on them, and we used to play this game where we'd split the deck in half, and take alternating turns grabbing a card form the top, and picking a state to compare - so if you got the concord, you'd pick speed, etc - and whoever won the comparison got both cards.

I loving always lost my Concord to his Tu-144.

Zerg Mans has issued a correction as of 22:56 on Mar 11, 2017

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Sic Semper Goon posted:

Economic collapse, massive despotism and brutal repression.

Still the darling of uni students who have never personally experienced any of those things.

communism has a lot in common with the american civil war wrt opinions

People who know nothing of communism think its bad (because cold war scares and russia today), people who know a little think its cool (because socialism owns and the system separated from Stalin is good as hell) and people who know a lot about it think its bad (because its just as if not more vulnerable to dictators taking over and making GBS threads on the system as capitalism)

Tbh the only reason russian communism started out so dece was because lenin had a huge martyr complex and dreamed of amassing power to perfect the system & complete the revolution, and then impeaching himself & the position

Same for cuba, they lucked out and got a benevolent dictator that was actually benevolent

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
If nothing else its good to have a strong communist govt every so often so we can get some integral tech not constrained by force obsolescence (pretend im posting pics of the ak47, mosin nagant, and glory era of ruskie tanks here)

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

The Buran was actually probably a more practical idea than the Shuttle, all things considered. See, the reason NASA went with the shuttle project in the 70s as its main focus is, with the twilight of the space race and looming budget cuts, they gambled on the idea that they could save a lot of money by reusing the main engine, the most expensive part of any rocket.

But the cost savings never materialized. There was some interference from the military, something about being able to put a spy satellite in a polar orbit and return to Earth in one orbit, or something. I don't really remember. Point is, NASA ended up putting all their chips into something that, while super cool, was very expensive, couldn't go past low orbit, and only actually had one advantage over conventional rockets: the ability to bring a payload back from space, say a satellite.

Meanwhile the Soviet leadership saw the shuttle and poo poo their pants. They imagined it stealing their satellites and swooping down and dropping bombs on Moscow from orbit. Obviously they had to have one. Difference was, they didn't have the same budgetary constraints NASA did, so they could ditch the whole reusing the main engine thing. Having the main engine on the carrier rocket meant that, while they couldn't recover it, the Buran was lighter and could perform more orbital maneuvers, as well as actually fly. The Shuttle could only glide on a predetermined trajectory directly to a landing strip, the Buran came with jet engines and could actually take off and fly under its own power.

The main stage on its own could also be used as a heavy lift rocket, while the shuttle could only carry itself plus about 25 tons to low orbit. In some alternate future where the Buran survived, it would probably have to have been retired when it kept exploding and killing cosmonauts just like the shuttle did, but they would have at least still had the Energia.

Basically Buran owns, fight me.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Yeah the Energia owned and if they could have built a heavy lift rocket with the same reliability as Soyuz then space stuff would be a lot better than it is now.

NASA kinda sucks at making things not named Saturn.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Did anything ever come out of that historian who found that a lot of sourced soviet deaths had no actual source/connection to who died, and possibly was just guesstimates from western powers during the cold war

(im not saying stalin didnt kill a shitload of innocent people, for the record)

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Normie Chomsky
Apr 10, 2008


Stalin created the myth about Mew underneath the truck by the S.S. Anne, just to force millions of kids to suffer

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