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cuntman.net
Mar 1, 2013

gobbagool posted:

Here's a question what's better North Korea, or Venezuela?

i have a better question, whats better, north korea or this thread

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fallen Hamprince posted:

claimed cia support for the khmer rouge started after the vietnamese invaded, the kr had already ruled the country for years by that time

Nixon's secret bombing sure didn't help.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Nixon's secret bombing sure didn't help.

you mean the bombing of the khmer rouge? you know, they guys who did the genocide?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fallen Hamprince posted:

you mean the bombing of the khmer rouge? you know, they guys who did the genocide?

lmao

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Fallen Hamprince posted:

you mean the bombing of the khmer rouge? you know, they guys who did the genocide?

whoa and i thought i knew how to post bad

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

nixon's secret bombing of the khmer rouge, just one example of the us helping out the khmer rouge

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

So let's follow Hamprince's logic:

Bombing Cambodia, killing at least 40,000 people, destroying 20% of property, and catastrophically destabilizing Cambodia with an internal refugee crisis> good.

Supporting the Khmer Rouge after they carried out a genocide> also good.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

So let's follow Hamprince's logic:

Bombing Cambodia, killing at least 40,000 people, destroying 20% of property, and catastrophically destabilizing Cambodia with an internal refugee crisis> good.

Supporting the Khmer Rouge after they carried out a genocide> also good.

lets rewind to the part where i said bombing cambodia was good

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fallen Hamprince posted:

lets rewind to the part where i said bombing cambodia was good

Oh is somebody giving a disingenuous reading of your posts? Must be terrible.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Oh is somebody giving a disingenuous reading of your posts? Must be terrible.

no i just wanted to remind everyone that i think the bombing of cambodia was hella good. i love death

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Fallen Hamprince posted:

nixon's secret bombing of the khmer rouge, just one example of the us helping out the khmer rouge

bombing cambodia did help the khmer rouge tho

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMArIc5Hn_g

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Go go North Korea but set to the Power Rangers theme song

Olga Gurlukovich
Nov 13, 2016

If drpk was brought into the modern world I bet their TV would be insanely good

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


get that OUT of my face posted:

this is a long video but it's a good deconstruction of juche and north korean propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPf-zZ4eKQ

and yeah north korea sucks

this is a proclick

also north korea definitely sucks lol

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
B.R. did an interview with Slate recently that was pretty good

quote:

I don’t think [Trump has] made Kim Jong-un think any differently. The stars are aligning very nicely for the strategy he inherited from his father. Just as North Korea is perfecting its nuclear weaponry, China has acquired the economic power to punish South Korea for improving its missile defenses. Opinion polls in the South now strongly favor the left-wing presidential candidate Mun Jae-in, who in 2011 expressed hope for the speedy realization of a North–South confederation. If he or anyone else from the nationalist left takes over, years of South Korean accommodation of the North will ensue, complete with massive unconditional aid.

This went on under George W. Bush, and the alliance survived. Donald Trump, however, is much less likely to allow an ostensible ally to subvert UN sanctions while paying tributary visits to Pyongyang. And Kim Jong-un knows this. He knows that whatever security guarantees Trump gave to Seoul were made to the current conservative administration only. So Kim Jong-un has a better chance than his father did of pressuring the alliance to a breaking point. With China’s support he can pull a left-wing South Korean administration in one way while pushing the Americans in another.

Having lived in South Korea for the past 15 years, I don’t share most Americans’ confidence that it will always choose America over a North-supporting China. My own impression—bolstered by the ongoing controversy surrounding the stationing of the THAAD missile defense system—is that a growing number of South Koreans would rather see their state’s security compromised than risk their own prosperity.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...the_regime.html

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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thats a pretty serious underestimation of the leverage that the usa holds though

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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the more i read of that interview the more bizarrely conspiratorial meyers is making it sound

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011
A majority of South Koreans want to reunite and reconcile with North Korea, and obviously the DPRK doesn't have any good polls but I've read accounts that say the sentiment is the same over there. I'm not sure how hard Moon Jae-in would push back against the US but he's already expressed resistance to THAAD and so far, Trump has been pretty malleable in terms of foreign policy so I'd be surprised to see him meddle too much if something like that were to happen

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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thaad is already being built and south korea is an export based economy and therefore heavily reliant on the usa for its economic security as well as its military security

i dont find the "a buddy cop movie is popular therefore korea will be reunited under pyongyang" argument very convincing tbh

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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also lmao @ citing polls as evidence of pending reunification

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fojar38 posted:

the more i read of that interview the more bizarrely conspiratorial meyers is making it sound

It reads as the fever dream wish list of D&D libs

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I dunno honestly but it'd be hilarious if he were right

His views seem to be that bullying NK isn't going to work, but also that NK is hellbent on retaking the south and is way more serious about it than the left consensus is willing to accept

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Confederalism isn't exactly "reuniting under Pyongyang"

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Confederalism isn't exactly "reuniting under Pyongyang"

oh sorry a korean confederation is imminent because of a buddy cop movie

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

It's good.

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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
It's really bad, OP

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