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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

my favorite made up thing about dprk is they don't allow any screening of foreign films and if you're caught with one you die or get sent to jail

meanwhile, this year the pyongyang international film festival is celebrating its 30th anniversary

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

General Dog posted:

I've heard a (almost certainly apocryphal) story at church several times about the North Korean government executing Christian families by laying them down and running them over with a steamroller. I've heard this story multiple times several years apart, but it's always recounted as having happened a few weeks before, so I like to imagine there's a steamroller just slowly making its way across the country running over any Christians it encounters.

dprk hates and murders christians

this building is actually under a giant box propped up with a stick and kim jong-un will yank the stick out once enough christians are inside

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

dprk isn't starving and hasn't been since the 90s

http://apjjf.org/2014/12/18/Henri-Feron/4113/article.html

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

this heavily sourced article i didn't bother to read is dumb and total bullshit. the seth rogen movie the interview, on the other hand....

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i'm sure the book titled "under the loving care of the fatherly leader" has absolutely no truck for orientalist stereotypes

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Fast Luck posted:

ok so that link says that it's really hard to get any information on the dprk but that when they got food assistance during the 90s famine they were required to do these reports on their food production, and that those seem to be a reliable source of data. And they show the dprk's grain output is at 95% of that required to meet their peoples needs.

what this doesnt account for is a) distribution of grain once produced, and b) the 400 kcal of non-grain (ie protein) per day per person required (versus the 1640 kcal of grain that is close to being met).

so, i think it's fair to say that they are doing pretty well with food production (many prosperous countries dont produce nearly that much of their own food), esp given their mountainous geography and many hurdles. but that doesnt mean theyre not still food insecure, with some segments of the population possibly "starving."

This story posted like a page ago does back up that people are hungry. and it's being exasperated by all these sanctions
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/report-sanctions-disrupt-humanitarian-aid-north-korea-46340596

that's all correct and the article i posted goes into some detail on the ramifications of sanctions. my intro was glib but the overall point is things are not getting worse there and the days of the arduous march have long since passed

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

the "humanitarian exemptions" are straight bullshit and there are multiple sources in here saying so

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

it's a mystery to me, an idiot, why after losing their major trading partner the dprk would go through a famine they've only recently recovered from

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

it is

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Ace of Baes posted:

No it isn't, the Nork gov funnels aid money into the Pyongyang elite while the rest of the country starves, it's a state capitalist fascist military dictatorship.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/307250096/Socialist-Korea-A-Case-Study-in-the-Strategy-of-Economic-Development

pay particular attention to chapters six and seven

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Fallen Hamprince posted:

oh poo poo homex has started up with the stalinist livejournal posts time 2 bail

it's a book moron

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Jose posted:

if you call yourself a socialist or communist homework explainer feels honour bound to defend you even as you're committing genocide.

you post about me all the time and it's weird as hell

Wikkheiser posted:

Enver Hoxha said about Kim Il Sung:

"In Pyongyang, I believe that even Tito will be astonished at the proportions of the cult of his host, which has reached a level unheard of anywhere else, either in past or present times, let alone in a country which calls itself socialist."

do you think i bought myself this av

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

as far as kim il-sung's place ideologically, no, i don't put a lot of stock in juche as an independent break from marxism-leninism. it's why i don't consider maoism a separate ideology — and why mao himself did not, either. juche, like maoism, is marxism-leninism applied to specific conditions and in that sense it's a pretty weak theoretical foundation. but whatever we may think of it, there's no doubt kim il-sung was a key figure in its development

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

saying the cia supported the khmer rouge (which is true) is not the same thing as alex jonesly claiming false flag

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


yes, that is bad

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

It's good.

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