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gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Who Is Paul Blart posted:

DPRK is insanely good OP

It has everything that village idiot who is Paul Blart likes

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gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I can't believe people think the Gulf War was bad while Iraqi soldiers were throwing Kuwaiti babies out of incubators.

does it ever get tired, carrying the water for every horrifying regime on the planet? I'm beginning to think you're not a very good person

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Azathoth posted:

Yeah, reconciliation necessarily has, at some point in the process, increased travel between the two, and it's hard to see a way that that doesn't turn into a refugee crisis, an internal revolt, or both, with a disordered collapse of the government happening along the way.

The population of the North knows, by and large, that things are better in the South (and the rest of the world), so the government has sold the public on the reason that it's worse for them being that America and it's puppet, the South, are holding them down.

It's hard to see how they could walk that back in a way that doesn't result in the house of cards collapsing.

And we have 5 star idiots in the west like pener parroting whatever Kim and his ilk say. He's a literal tankie.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fallen Hamprince posted:

would you consider east germany to have been under military occupation by the soviet union during the cold war?

No you see because {long winded explanation of how the soviets were more organic and the proletariat DEMANDED soviet intervention because of the capitalists and their monocles and big cigars ffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart}

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fallen Hamprince posted:



soviet heavy tank being used to break up a workers strike, a totally normal part of stationing troops in a foreign country that i'm sure happens all the time in south korea

this is where pener says ,"if the hungarians didn't want to be raped by the soviets, maybe they shouldn't have dressed so provocatively"

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

jarofpiss posted:

sounds like they're exactly the same as us just shorter (and without advertisements on every surface imaginable)

oh hey look one of peners fellow travellers/edgy internet anime marxists comes to white knight another lovely regime. do you at least get points on your panera card like you did for 'correcting the record'? Or perhaps vouchers for glorious North Korean vacations where you get your own 12 year olds to rape?

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

ouch, you sure showed me. anyhoo, here's the people living under the regime you're defending

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

jarofpiss posted:

anime is counterrevolutionary and i'll have no part of it btw

oh hey glad you're still here, here's another one. I only wish bloated sacks of poo poo like you and pener could actually go live in the places for whom you shill on the internet. Each hot pocket you eat (stealing the fruits of your parents labor, i might add, also counterrevolutionary) has more calories than what a north korean gets in a day.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:


Maybe if they were calling for the overthrow of the government instead of the resignation of President Park there would be American tanks in those streets.


Here's American marines on the streets of Port-Au-Prince to guarantee the rule of the anti-Aristide coup.

At least the South Korean citizens are well enough nourished to have a riot. Your favorite dictator makes sure everyone's too hungry to get too upity, which seems to be the only way that your favored style of government can stay in power very long. It's a good thing too, because when your army looks like this:



they're not going to be able to put down much of a rebellion!

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

jarofpiss posted:

also 2500 calories in white bread every day is why american imperialist pigs are so fat

must be really maddening to be the slavish adherent to an utterly failed political philosophy, and to be proven wrong in every single actual example of your philosophy made flesh, no wonder you hate yourself so much

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Sanctions are crippling humanitarian aid to North Korea right now, but surely that has nothing to do with their food insecurity.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/report-sanctions-disrupt-humanitarian-aid-north-korea-46340596

How much food aid does South Korea require, pener

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Well they're not under a sanctions regime, so you tell me.

So the sanctions regime prevents them from growing their own food? How do they pay for their massive military, and for the party elites lifestyles? Seems like you could feed the whole country on that budget. The US sure must be powerful to prevent nk soil from working right

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

North Korea is a rocky and mountainous country with very little arable land to begin with. The vast majority of Korean farmland is in the South. North Korea has always had to rely on foreign trade to feed its population, which is why the famine was so devastating in the 90s after they lost trade with the Soviet Union. They keep maintaining the military first policy because they have a reasonable fear of being invaded after they were called part of the "Axis of evil."

You really are an apologist for the world's worst regimes. I hope you're getting something out of it besides googly eyes from your friend piss

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

jarofpiss posted:

you are just gbs af aren't you

What's wrong? Facts don't fit your narrative? Ha you're a tankie of course they don't

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

If you think about it, Hitler was good, because the US is bad.

You'll find no argument with Fiction and his cohort. Between the stock anti semitism and their anger at their fathers and other more successful people they are surrounded by, it almost explains how they arrived at their bizzaro world opinions.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

resar posted:

Conservative sausage man is mad at commies because his dad was a hippy beatnik.

Yes, I don't like totalitarians starving children because my dad was a hippy.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

The only thing DPRK apologists are good at is being a caricature of leftists that libs and conservatives can point to when they argue against Socialism/Marxism/Communism.

And Borneo Jimmy is their spirit animal

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fast Luck posted:

Their subway system is stylish




yeah i really love the retro look engine...sort of like how the castro regime was so fond of 50s style american cars that nothing newer was ever allowed there

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fiction posted:

no wonder your posts are so bad you don't know what an "embargo" is lol

Sure i do, but shouldn't have the eternal science of marxist leninism have provided a solution? Or did cuba enter the cheat code on the controller wrong?

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Jose posted:

i think they're suggesting cuba could have tried building modern cars itself. either way stop arguing

Maybe not even cuba, how about any communist country build a decent car?

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

mysterious frankie posted:

North Korea's a lose lose proposition. Like, on one hand if we invaded they definitely would go full super villain and try blowing the whole country up while the remaining generals and Kims fly away in a giant rocket powered steel Kim Jong-un head and on the other, if we actually liberated North Korea we'd have another bummer holocaust situation on our hands and there's only a 50/50 that we could manage the narrative so that the thing people paid the most attention to was how heroic we were, and not all the skeleton cannibal dwarves.

There wont be any war with NK unless they start it. Wait around until they collapse or China gets tired of their antics. It sucks for the tens of millions living in the socialist paradise, slowly starving to death while the pigs on 2 feet get fatter and fatter, but you're right, it's absolutely a lose lose.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

If civilians are starving to death there's s moral obligation to prevent that as much as possible, it's really disturbing that this needs to be said lol

So the US Government has a moral obligation to see that the citizens of North Korea don't starve, but the North Korean government does not? care to parse that for us, friend?

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

resar posted:

We did the same in the cold war and Russia does that when ever NATO upsets them. Why is it bad when NK does it?

As it's been pointed out, no, in fact Russia did not threaten to nuke the US every time the eternal science of marxist leninsm caused a crop failure. That's really the thing about you new era totalitarian fanboys, you don't know any actual history, just vague overarching themes full of inaccurate or misleading bullshit

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fast Luck posted:

because collective punishment sucks and starvation sucks

Why do you put the responsibility for the starvation of the citizens on sovereign nation North Korea at the feet of the US and not at the feet of the (largely fat and wealthy) government of North Korea? You're not a fan of collective punishment but you're a Kim fanboy? Are you sure you've thought this through? If I didn't know better I'd come close to assuming that perhaps you'll cheer for anybody anti-US no matter how horrible they are, but you're lucky enough not to actually have to live your convictions. it's a shame, that

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fast Luck posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

On August 6, the U.S. dropped a uranium gun-type (Little Boy) bomb on Hiroshima, and American President Harry S. Truman called for Japan's surrender, warning it to "expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth."

yes, the US should never have started the war of aggression against glorious nippon in the first place. I mean, the other big difference is that Harry S Truman wasn't engaging in tinpot dictator hyperbole, he was going to keep dropping bombs until they surrendered. Kim is like every tough guy that manages to shoot his own dick off trying to look tough

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fast Luck posted:


The US is responsible for the partitioning of Korea, and the borders imposed on the north are such that, due to climate and geography, they can't realistically grow sufficient food to feed their people.

North Korea is 19.5% arable land, South Korea is 15.3% arable land. Sounds like the US should have taken some more of NK if that was the goal, but then again South Korea's economy isn't run by a bunch of broke brained totalitarian psychopaths so they figured out how to feed themselves. South Korea also exports $4b worth of food a year, which is probably more than NK produces in total.

any other wrong claims you want to make here?

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

yes, experts agree that when you put communists or whatever the gently caress the Kims are, there is literally zero chance of that country ever being able to feed itself henceforth. It's a really deep mystery as to why that might be, especially when the neighboring country with substantially similar culture, or at least it was at one time, and less arable land, and twice as many people, grows enough to be able to EXPORT food. this is really a head scratcher

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fojar38 posted:

agreed america should invade north korea right now

Or followed the McArthur plan way back when

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Kill em all and let God sort em out

Wait godless communist calling for divine intervention because that's the only thing that can save his dumb system? Stop the presses!

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Peel posted:

This thread has a bunch of good examples of the weird mental block liberals have about discussing international politics with states they've identified as villains. It's strong enough that they basically start hallucinating. This is probably the most clear-cut recent example:



Ace of Baes says 'X' and gobbagool reads 'X and also the government of North Korea has no obligation to feed its people.' The latter half appears literally from nowhere - the liberal has hallucinated it. The first statement might as well have been talking about the weather or tomorrow's ball game, it literally doesn't matter - the liberal's brain has decided it's talking to a 'tankie' and started firing neurons at random.

Does the government of North Korea have any obligation for the well being of its people or not?

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

Yeah they would end the suffering of millions of South Koreans as well when nork shells Seoul.

So you're cheering for the pudgy dictator, nice

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Fiction posted:

It's funny seeing people spout complete falsehoods about Korean history and then smugly act like they should be taken seriously.

Surely any western imperialist running pig dog suggesting that the glorious dear leader didn't hit 18 hole-in-ones in a row is a counter revolutionary agitator and should be starved to death along with his entire family, in laws, neighbors, former classmates, anyone who shops at the same stores and so on.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

Nobody in this thread knows poo poo about North Korean history, it's filled with revisionists from both sides lol

You're half right! Keep trying, tiger!

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

What if I told u...North Korean famines are a result of a US bombing campaign in the late Korean war that focused on non-military essential infrastructure, and that these famines are made worse simaltaneously by US sanctions and their horrible military regime of a gov.

So a bombing campaign in the mid 1950s is still hampering agricultural production 65 years later? Good thing we never did that to Germany, Japan, Italy, Vietnam, or anyone else we've been at war with in the last century! I'd hate to think about a bunch of starving Germans!

Seriously your gimmick is tired. Go talk to pener for guidance on the light touch on the long troll. He's doing a much better job than you.

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

Lol you're so clueless.

Explain. I'd like to know about this deep tech that ruins agriculture for decades

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

Ok here's a hint, look at how the US treated the countries you listed wrt reconstruction.

Oh I see. The us didn't pour billions into nk agriculture so they forgot how to grow food. Yeah about right, socialists don't know how to grow food unless the US pays for it. Surely the capitalists will sell the rope that will they one day be hanged with comrade!

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

Mmmm I love capitalism nothing is better to me than exploiting the planet and it's inhabitants so an ultra wealthy class of owners can ride around in Golden yachts and literally get away with murder.

So the Kim family are capitalists? Consider me now woke on this topic

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Ace of Baes posted:

What's it like to support an ideology that's responsible for enslaving Black people and committing genocide against the Native Americans?

The Spanish crown? I'll thank you kind sir to never suggest that again

Edit I can see why you're a big fan of the nk dictatorship they never enslaved anyone

gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

R. Guyovich posted:

it's a mystery to me, an idiot, why after losing their major trading partner the dprk would go through a famine they've only recently recovered from

Socialists love that classic Led Zeppelin song, everybody's fault but mine

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gobbagool
Feb 5, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Doctor Rope

Maybe you two need to huddle up here and figure this out

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