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PowerbalI posted:I keep seeing these pro-DPRK memes on facebook and they keep arguing about whether it's good or bad in one of the tankie groups I'm in and I don't really know a lot about it so someone tell me if DPRK is good or bad. I guess they think it's like a conspiracy by imperalists and South Korea that all of the refugee accounts of people who escaped NK are like paid to say that stuff or something and America is bad? I dunno. Thanks 4 your help. tankies are loving insane
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Badger of Basra posted:why do new statues look so weird and lovely compared to older ones the more recent ones are commissioned by private individuals on the cheap. westerner countries don't do a lot of figurative statuary anymore, north korea actually makes a bit of cash hiring out their sculptors for african and asian dictatorships because they're the only ones who still to socialist realism
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Mar 20, 2017 02:16
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Ace of Baes posted:Pro-DPRK ppl are dumbasses, is there anti-DPRK propaganda spread by the US and SK gov constantly? Yes. Is NK so hosed because of US scorched Earth policy during the Korean and trade isolation afterwards? Yes. trade isolationism is literally the state ideology under juche. of course they don't actually follow that because juche was invented so that kim il sung could have his own ideology to match mao, there's a factory district they jointly operate with the south that the north shuts down whenever kim feels like having a tantrum
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Mar 20, 2017 02:28
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think he's referring to Operation Paul Bunyan, which happened in the 70s. Long story short, a couple Americans went out to chop down a tree in the DMZ that was blocking their line of sight, and North Korean soldiers came out and hacked them to death. So the US army came back with a full armored battalion, jet cover, and a mechanical truck saw to cut the drat thing down. They all almost started WW3 over a drat tree. man way to overreact to some light ax-murder jeeze
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Mar 20, 2017 02:34
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Badger of Basra posted:i refuse to believe this one was created in sincerity they'd probably argue it's for protection against night bombing but they can't because pyongyang, home of the
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Mar 20, 2017 02:36
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Badger of Basra posted:also it's not ww2 anymore yeah but tell that to the north koreans, they were practicing airdropping commandos out of biplanes until the 2000s when fuel became too expensive
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Mar 20, 2017 02:41
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*extremely not living in a prison state voice*quote:"This is world class beer. It is great. We have our leadership to thank for being able to drink to our hearts' content today," said another resident.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:48
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R. Guyovich posted:my favorite made up thing about dprk is they don't allow any screening of foreign films and if you're caught with one you die or get sent to jail tfw ur tv can only tune in to certain channels because otherwise you might be seduced by the decadent soap operas and music videos of the southern traitors
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Mar 20, 2017 03:44
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Fast Luck posted:Looks like they're good, it turns out, meeting the head of state of another country? that's a nuking
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Mar 24, 2017 05:48
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the dprk withdrew from the non-proliferation treaty in the 90s and conducted multiple nuclear tests pre-president fatass but surely the missile test must be all america's fault, somehow
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Mar 24, 2017 05:50
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:America invading and bombing multiple sovereign countries has nothing to do with it. exactly, it's really because the president had golf with shinzo abe - incisive analysis from the nation
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Mar 24, 2017 06:15
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:A disingenuous reading from Hamprince? Well I never! sorry i didnt put more effort into this dumbass piece of dprk apologism quote:Last October, I was at a forum in Seoul with Strobe Talbott, a former deputy secretary of state for Bill Clinton. Like everyone else, Talbott averred that North Korea might well be the top security problem for the next president. In my remarks, I mentioned Robert McNamara’s explanation, in Errol Morris’s excellent documentary The Fog of War, for our defeat in Vietnam: We never put ourselves in the shoes of the enemy and attempted to see the world as they did. Talbott then blurted, “It’s a grotesque regime!” There you have it: It’s our number-one problem, but so grotesque that there’s no point trying to understand Pyongyang’s point of view (or even that it might have some valid concerns). North Korea is the only country in the world to have been systematically blackmailed by US nuclear weapons going back to the 1950s, when hundreds of nukes were installed in South Korea. I have written much about this in these pages and in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Why on earth would Pyongyang not seek a nuclear deterrent? But this crucial background doesn’t enter mainstream American discourse. History doesn’t matter, until it does—when it rears up and smacks you in the face. poor lil' nk, being 'systematically blackmailed' into... not invading south korea? this is the left wing equivalent of those moronic thinkpieces after the election about how we really have to empathize with these handsome and well dressed white nationalists Fallen Hamprince has issued a correction as of 07:56 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 07:53
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Reconciliation doesn't necessarily mean reunification. There's also been a strong left wing current in the south compared to areas closer to the border, which have been suppressed before with American assistance, either by supporting a junta, installing a puppet or direct suppression. SK pursued a pro-reconciliation 'sunshine policy' with the north during much of the 2000s and it went absolutely nowhere because the drpk leadership does not want reconciliation
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Mar 24, 2017 20:34
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Does it ever get tiring going to war on false pretenses? You all never fight in them, so I guess not. quote:There isn't room for reconciliation while the United States still occupies the South. reconciliation step 1: make it way easier for us to beat u in a war also somebody should tell germany that they're under US 'occupation', i bet they'd be pretty mad if they found out
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Mar 24, 2017 20:38
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's cool how normal it is now to just occupy foreign countries long after even nominal reasons no longer apply. would you consider east germany to have been under military occupation by the soviet union during the cold war?
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Mar 24, 2017 21:04
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 soviet heavy tank being used to break up a workers strike, a totally normal part of stationing troops in a foreign country that i'm sure happens all the time in south korea
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Mar 24, 2017 21:08
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This whole line of argumentation doesn't even make sense, because the Soviets DID quit occupying Eastern Europe. They wouldn't even force the SRs to stay while they all declared independence one by one. hey poops here's a fun little 'where's waldo' type game for u: count the number of american tanks being used to supress this anti-government demonstration in seol 
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Mar 24, 2017 21:13
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Sanctions are crippling humanitarian aid to North Korea right now, but surely that has nothing to do with their food insecurity. I'm sure nukes are worth it
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Mar 24, 2017 21:39
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I can't figure out why the western imperialist pigs whom we are still at war with and whose country we threaten to turn into a sea of fire every other day won't give us more free food, it's inexplicable
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Mar 24, 2017 21:42
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somebody who is good at economy please help me, my people are dying food: $2m healthcare: $1.4m nuclear program: $673.8m military: $4.6m
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Mar 24, 2017 21:45
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Fiction posted:it is wrong to starve the people of a country because of the way their totalitarian government responds to our intense military provocation of them that we still do after slaughtering like a third of their population during the war. *in a nasally insufferable dork voice* "actually" R. Guyovich posted:dprk isn't starving and hasn't been since the 90s
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Mar 25, 2017 07:53
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north korea has to be the least stylish dictatorship ever
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Mar 28, 2017 15:04
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R. Guyovich posted:i'm sure the book titled "under the loving care of the fatherly leader" has absolutely no truck for orientalist stereotypes Here comes Homework Explainer with the liberal identity politics 
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Mar 30, 2017 16:25
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*extremely margaret thatcher voice*Pener Kropoopkin posted:Sanctions are bad y'all.
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Mar 31, 2017 01:26
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Fast Luck posted:No this was rock bottom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine *coins ideology revolving entirely around economic self-sufficiency*
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Mar 31, 2017 15:09
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Fiction posted:*uses your hegemonic global superpower status to starve as many innocent dictatorships of nuclear weapons as possible*
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Mar 31, 2017 15:59
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Psycho Society posted:Does the DPRK have some technology to make nukes out of bags brown rice? fiction is whining that the sanctions targeting nk's nuclear program indirectly affect food aid (which nk is reliant upon) because of banking restrictions and the added noteriety which makes donors less willing to give. the US and other western programs still provide food aid though, which is certainly just part of their master plan to starve the north to death homoeopathically
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Mar 31, 2017 16:04
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Fiction posted:Nobody involved with NK's nuclear program is truly affected by sanctions on food aid. It's purely meant as collective punishment. the sanctions aren't on food aid ABC News posted:"While international sanctions imposed on DPRK clearly exempt humanitarian activities, they have unintentionally caused disruptions to humanitarian operations," it said. but whatever, it's a free country and u can continue to believe that amerikkka made selling north korea hamburgers illegal if u want
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Mar 31, 2017 16:11
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Fiction posted:yeah all they did is stop people outside of NK from sending their family and friends money to buy anything they need on the black markets, no prob lol lmao just admit u were wrong dude, this is just sad
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Mar 31, 2017 16:31
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North Korea totally wouldn't be starving if only the imperialist west would let the vast North Korean expect community wire money back to their families to buy black market grain, sorry ur too dumb to figure that out lib
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Mar 31, 2017 16:33
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R. Guyovich posted:the "humanitarian exemptions" are straight bullshit and there are multiple sources in here saying so R. Guyovich posted:dprk isn't starving and hasn't been since the 90s 
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Mar 31, 2017 16:40
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Fiction posted:It's not, which is why it's very weird that we are so concerned about who in Korea gets money to buy food. didn't realize surface to air missiles were such a vital component of the traditional North Korean diet, really explains a lot actually
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Mar 31, 2017 19:56
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Has the DPRK made an official protest to the UN about how international banking sanctions are making it difficult for its citizens to buy food from illegal black markets yet? Maybe you should drop them a tip Fiction
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Mar 31, 2017 20:01
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Fast Luck posted:No this was rock bottom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine man juche sounds like kind of a bad idea you guys
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Apr 1, 2017 01:50
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Peel posted:The highest fever pitch I've personally seen came about during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It didn't matter how many Russia Bad pieties you loaded your comments with, merely trying to discuss Russian internal politics and perception in ways that didn't immediately produce emotional satisfaction of condemning the villain Russia was seen as facial evidence of being a Putin stooge. North Korea exists permanently at a similar level of perceived monstrosity, if not intensity of discussion. i'm sure u had similarly nuanced feelings about the invasion of iraq peel
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Apr 1, 2017 02:46
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Ace of Baes posted:What if I told u...North Korean famines are a result of a US bombing campaign in the late Korean war that focused on non-military essential infrastructure, and that these famines are made worse simaltaneously by US sanctions and their horrible military regime of a gov. the famines happened in the 1990s
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Apr 1, 2017 03:02
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really hosed up of mcarthur to drop all those granary-busters with 40 year fuses, seems pretty mean-spirited imo
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Apr 1, 2017 03:07
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Ace of Baes posted:Because the US military doesn't station troops in North Korea. on a scale of 1-10 how brutally did u repress the south korean people, who yearn for the guidance of kim jong-un
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Apr 1, 2017 03:22
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Ace of Baes posted:Ok here's a hint, look at how the US treated the countries you listed wrt reconstruction. quote:Good thing we never did that to Germany, Japan, Italy, Vietnam,
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gobbagool posted:Oh I see. The us didn't pour billions into nk agriculture so they forgot how to grow food. Yeah about right, socialists don't know how to grow food unless the US pays for it. Surely the capitalists will sell the rope that will they one day be hanged with comrade! changed my mind, actually juche is good now
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