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Halo14
Sep 11, 2001


Yeah the on board footage is epic for sure! Man they had to work so hard to wring everything out of those cars.

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Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 17 days!


Senna did lunge like gently caress at Prost at turn 1 in Adelaide. If Prost hadnt responded they would have come together right there. Crazy bastards, both of them, great to watch

edit: Prost is such a bitch

Tony Montana fucked around with this message at Mar 21, 2017 around 09:13

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001


I'd like to see them all drive a few laps holding brollies lol

Dubs
Mar 6, 2007

"Winning doesn't exist any more as a concept"

"Do we have room for points in our cars? Yes we do. But the reality is that we put ourselves in a position where the technology side of our business is providing different dynamics."


Garbage Poster
Garbage Thread
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enri
Dec 15, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day



Tsaedje! You were the chosen one! You were meant to kill the bad posters, not join them, bring balance to the thread!

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

"It's me, I'm the pay-2-win pubbie shitlord."

(You and me both, brother.)
~SMcD.



Lol Adelaide '89 is insane.

Prost refuses to race because its too wet, they can't line up on the grid to start properly but they get the green flag anyway and people spinning everywhere throughout.

Its fascinating to see, given that F1 cars barely race in the wet these days.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007



Ferrari is not a Fiat subsidiary. When they were spun off ownership was distributed to individual Fiat shareholders. Fiat plays no role whatsoever in funding anything Ferrari does.

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 17 days!


Now, but according to Wiki it only split from FCA (Fiat Chrysler Auto) in Oct 2015. From 1988 to 2015 Ferrari was 90 percent owned by Fiat. But I was wrong, FCA has nothing to do with the brand new Ferrari 'NV'.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

Legendary cocksmith.



Bit of chat if you can stomach Sky Sports dolly bird Natalie Pinkham.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9eZbiuqCE4

McLaren and Honda's contract is to 2024. I feel like that is a worthy addition to the "this is a thing that actually happened" thread. We got any guesses on how long until Hack Clown backs out of the Honda deal and goes begging to Mercedes?

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

"It's me, I'm the pay-2-win pubbie shitlord."

(You and me both, brother.)
~SMcD.



Theophany posted:

McLaren and Honda's contract is to 2024.



Who was the numpty who organised that? Surely there must be a performance clause in that to get McLaren out of it.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007



Carth Dookie posted:



Who was the numpty who organised that? Surely there must be a performance clause in that to get McLaren out of it.

There are performance clauses for both sides.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007

and as for you..


Whats the opposite of a bold prediction? Anyway- my not-at-all bold prediction is that Nico Rosberg hangs around the F1 paddock for the rest of his days like a less-successful Jackie Stewart, giving endless unsolicited advice and opinions about how things were better "in my day" rather than having the grace and dignity to take his WDC and gently caress off to the golf course like thread hero and patron saint Nigel Mansell.

e: I've just realised even Mansell came back for another attempt in '95 so really the only F1 driver that took his WDC and left with any grace and dignity was Jochen Rindt. Oh how I wish Rosberg could be more like Rindt.

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Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

"It's me, I'm the pay-2-win pubbie shitlord."

(You and me both, brother.)
~SMcD.



What about Rosberg senior?

I thought he more or less retired with dignity and kept out of the spotlight until his boy won it and he finally came out of whatever bunker he was hiding in to comment before dropping a smoke bomb and disappearing into myth again.

aequalis
Aug 11, 2010

Fernando is smugger than you. Can you confirm you understand that message?


lotharr posted:

Wow this new interface is hot garbage.

https://gppredictor.com/leagues/joi...37ee9a303052fa1

Go forth and predict Mercedes winning everything until the end of time.

Johan Johansson checking in, driving for the famous StefanGP F1 team.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

Legendary cocksmith.



Carth Dookie posted:

What about Rosberg senior?

I thought he more or less retired with dignity and kept out of the spotlight until his boy won it and he finally came out of whatever bunker he was hiding in to comment before dropping a smoke bomb and disappearing into myth again.

He left Williams to go an race around in a McLaren almost as lovely as the current one, bowing to Prost's #1 status. I'm willing to forgive him that because he is the archetypal 'zero fucks given' F1 racer.

Theophany fucked around with this message at Mar 21, 2017 around 11:35

Flesh Croissant
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless


"GP Predictor" added to OP. Be sure to sign up now before the race, i'll try keep the image updated after each round.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

Legendary cocksmith.



Gonna be pissed if I get up early on Sunday morning and don't see this at the end of the race:

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006



It'll be Hamilton, Bottas, and Ricciardo

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless you, ants. Blants.




Fun Shoe

...off at the first corner

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

Legendary cocksmith.



Thanks Ants posted:

...off at the first corner

Taken out by the upside down Williams of Lance Stroll.

1500quidporsche
Jan 19, 2014

Linkin Park - In The End


Theophany posted:

He left Williams to go an race around in a McLaren almost as lovely as the current one, bowing to Prost's #1 status. I'm willing to forgive him that because he is the archetypal 'zero fucks given' F1 racer.

I don't think it was just bowing to Prost, Barnard ignored driver feedback alot of the time and the car had been designed with Prost's driving style in mind so Keke had a rough go making the tires work. Then Elio died and I'm pretty sure that was the thing that made Keke retire. When Keke poked his head up last year he actually mentioned that he confronted Barnard about it years later and Barnard just went "lol sorry mate, I was thinking about my move to Ferrari".

iospace
Apr 20, 2020




Grimey Drawer

Bold Prediction: Viewership suffers as the new owners flail about trying to figure out what to do, and in their flailing summon the beast that shall end the earth

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013



1500quidporsche posted:

I don't think it was just bowing to Prost, Barnard ignored driver feedback alot of the time and the car had been designed with Prost's driving style in mind so Keke had a rough go making the tires work. Then Elio died and I'm pretty sure that was the thing that made Keke retire. When Keke poked his head up last year he actually mentioned that he confronted Barnard about it years later and Barnard just went "lol sorry mate, I was thinking about my move to Ferrari".

It was also comparatively old. 3 years is a really long time to use the same design. Also the Porsche engine simply wasn't up to snuff.

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013



Criticize Keke's move all you want, it isn't nearly as dumb as Derek Warwick's career choice.

CratSock
Aug 5, 2004

Sock Wielding Assassin



EoRaptor posted:

It wouldn't be difficult to create a tranche system that lets Ferrari (and others) keep their current funding up to a set dollar figure, and then balances the percentages more in favour of smaller teams. Ferrari wouldn't see their revenue decrease, but if Liberty was able to grow F1 revenue, then Ferrari would start seeing lower and lower percentages above specified dollar tiers. It lets them be special and creates room for smaller teams to get better as F1 grows.

It's a widely used financial instrument, so I can't see it causing any legal issues with all the different countries F1 deals with either.

Stop suggesting good ideas, wicka will get mad! Just kidding, wicka's previous answer actually makes a lot of sense, but it IS hard for me to look at F1 as anything other than Bernie's version of it. I can't conceive of the new owners doing "normal" things to grow and expand the brand and revenue. Frankly, all this internet business is just a silly fad that has no practical applications concerning F1.

The tranche system would be a good way to approach the Ferrari problem, at least initially since their current agreement can't be touched.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

Legendary cocksmith.



1500quidporsche posted:

When Keke poked his head up last year he actually mentioned that he confronted Barnard about it years later and Barnard just went "lol sorry mate, I was thinking about my move to Ferrari".

I missed that - interesting tidbit!

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

We love you Nando-san


New thread new day for Lance Stroll to attempt murder

MustardFacial
Jun 19, 2011

Feels Good. Tastes Better.




I don't know how much stock you want to put into *~other forums~* but over on the F1 Technical forums there is a guy there who claims to be an engineer at Honda Racing Development, working on the new shitpile of an F1 engine. According to him, all of the breakdowns during testing were due to vibrations from their lovely TJI head design. He also says this:

Wazari posted:

It amazes me how much effort people take to try and discredit or put down other people on the Internet. To actually email the HR department at Sakura to figure out who I am, to that person, you need to find another hobby. So to all of those who think Iím a fraud or fake, just believe that Iím the head janitor at Sakura and my nephew is a part-time musubi-maker in the cafeteria. You might as well also stop reading here.

To the rest of you, I appreciate your kind words and this forum as I have mentioned is a form of entertainment and diversion for myself. I donít think I will be posting for a while but will lurk from time to time. The internet has made the world so much smaller. This forum has allowed me to make a few close contacts and even meet one individual in person. Amazing! My contract with HRD ends this month and I am not going to continue. As I approach 70, I realize life is short and some of you know that my daughter has battled cancer twice and I plan on spending more time with her and the grandkids. I also have my personal automotive projects that have been neglected and need attending to. Enough about me.
Iíve always been known as a 反逆者 at Honda so Iím going post my opinion about this yearís PU and HRD in general. I was asked by a Honda enthusiast and journalist about this yearís PU and overall direction and here was my response from March 6th.

F1 has also changed immensely. Mostly the technology has become so complex that I donít see how this translates to cost cutting. I suppose that eventually some of this technology might find its way into passenger cars but at what price? Can $150,000 ES devices be brought down to a level where it can be used in a $35,000 passenger car? I donít see it even with economies of scale. At the end of day, everything is still petrol based. How does this translate to alternative fuels, etc.?

The current PU overall I think is very good and I am excited about it. But, lack of actual track testing it makes it difficult. Honda has not used test mules because mainly we donít know when to stop. That is a fault. HRD is constantly trying to make improvements until the last moment and I struggle at times with this mentality. I was this way in the Ď80ís but I have changed. There comes a point where you need to concentrate on improving what you have built rather than constantly trying to build new versions. This between you and me is Hondaís biggest weakness at this point IMO. This IMO leads to lack of testing time for each upgrade. What is better, 5,000 hours of testing on 10 different versions or 10,000 hours of testing on 5 different versions? Arai-san especially thought the former. Then when I think okay this is good enough for now, some interpret that as quitting. So in this aspect, I get frustrated. My contract ends in 30 days and I will not renew. I am done with F1 as a consultant/engineer. Itís not fun anymore.

So I hope this PU can be exploited to its full potential. The power is there, the efficiency is there and as usual, reliability is the big question mark because mainly of what I have mentioned before. This of course has caused friction between us and McLaren and it is a very, very difficult partnership. I donít know what the future lies but I know we have put tremendous effort into this PU. Almost everything is new. This is what IMO we should have built for 2015. Things will break. The latest failure was a valve-train issue stemming from an electrical problem. This is a problem that is being addressed currently and I think should be resolved before Melbourne.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

We love you Nando-san


The vibrations thing is real. Multiple reports of it.

"Formula Parkinsons" loving still killing me

FartingBedpost
Aug 24, 2015





Norns posted:

New thread new day for Lance Stroll to attempt murder

It's appropriate that Stroll's in a Williams. He just seems destined for immortality.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

I have always thought the actions of men the best interpreters of their thoughts.



Level the funding across all teams, then give teams a slight (capped) bonus for 'years served' in F1.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

We love you Nando-san


Is the "Ferrari vote" going away with liberty taking over?

wicka
Jun 28, 2007



I hope the "Ferrari team" goes away.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

We love you Nando-san


lol

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000


MustardFacial posted:

their lovely TJI head design.
Particularly ironic because i believe Honda invented TJI in the sixties

Flesh Croissant
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless


Norns posted:

New thread new day for Lance Stroll to attempt murder

Theophany posted:

Taken out by the upside down Williams of Lance Stroll.

gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak



Honda messed up by not including VTEC in their F1 engines IMO.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

We love you Nando-san


gret posted:

Honda messed up by not including VTEC in their F1 engines IMO.

I will find VTEC jokes funny till the end of time.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

this is a level beyond puke

you can call it puke 2


Norns posted:

I will find VTEC jokes funny till the end of time.

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Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013



gret posted:

Honda messed up by not including VTEC in their F1 engines IMO.

It's banned.

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