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Torrannor posted:
I can't get enough of the batman punch sound effect snare drum.
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Mar 27, 2017 09:11
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Torrannor posted:Wow, silhouette slice! That's amazing, a very good episode. Through a little bit of looking at class changes in advance, I can confirm that it will take at least some work on the thread's behalf to be short a healer.
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Mar 27, 2017 09:35
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I took a glance at the class changes as well, and there's some interesting stuff there! Also tried the patch with the Tough difficulty, and I got my rear end kicked by the Rabites and mushroom monsters early on. Whoops. Admittedly, I did pick Carlie for reasons.
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Mar 27, 2017 09:42
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God, I love the music in this game.
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Mar 27, 2017 09:44
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Though it does sound like the music tempo gets mucked with periodically in your video. What emulator are you using? Please don't say ZSNES. 
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Mar 27, 2017 15:24
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Though it does sound like the music tempo gets mucked with periodically in your video. What emulator are you using? Please don't say ZSNES. zsnes 1.36 is the only emulator that has functional netplay for this game. even 1.43 crashes on all mode 7 switches. i looked at retrocore but good criminy are there billions of reports of mammoth desync with that. we can generally port the saveram over though so if there is a better option by all means suggest it and we can mess with it. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 16:15
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Coolguye posted:zsnes 1.36 is the only emulator that has functional netplay for this game. even 1.43 crashes on all mode 7 switches. i looked at retrocore but good criminy are there billions of reports of mammoth desync with that. By "we" we mean Cool can mess with it and then I can do what he says.
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Mar 27, 2017 16:31
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NOW YOU'RE CATCHING ON.
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Mar 27, 2017 16:35
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Ah, netplay. Not something I would know anything about. Carry on, then. 
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Mar 27, 2017 16:45
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Tea is the one doing all the recording and he is the host, so all technical hiccups should be quite minimal as his copy is the one controlling all of the timing. i get some occasional big sound glitches on my end but from experience i know that doesn't propagate over to the host.
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Mar 27, 2017 16:47
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I recall the ninjas using silhouette slice at level 1 in the unpatched game as well. They did so less than once per Lise intro, but they did have that move. They however died quickly and spent most of their non dead time stunlocked and also didn't have poison. I wonder if the game is at its hardest now. It's not too uncommon that hard modes make a game the hardest at the beginning since the player doesn't have the options needed to do anything about the boosted stats. We'll see.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:08
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the patch notes are absolutely rife with notes about fixes and changes to boss AI scripts so i am pretty well expecting every boss fight to be a capitol-P Problem until we hit our mechanical stride. even afterward, i expect bosses to continue to have lethal surprises for us. during recording yesterday i told Tea that i'm already concerned about the Full Metal Hugger.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:20
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Coolguye posted:the patch notes are absolutely rife with notes about fixes and changes to boss AI scripts so i am pretty well expecting every boss fight to be a capitol-P Problem until we hit our mechanical stride. even afterward, i expect bosses to continue to have lethal surprises for us. during recording yesterday i told Tea that i'm already concerned about the Full Metal Hugger. It's a ways off, but I can't wait to see how difficult some of the God Beasts are with this mod. Even in the base game a few of them were really difficult, though the wind one was mostly hard because your AI partners couldn't figure out how to attack it and would just run back and forth doing nothing.
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Mar 27, 2017 19:55
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yeah trying to think ahead, i'm not looking forward to either the god-beast of wind or the god-beast of darkness. more immediately, i'm concerned about the Full Metal Hugger and i'm very concerned about the Gem Eater. the Gem Eater was no slouch in the main game, and the patch notes have half a dozen notes on his fixing and rebalancing. anything could happen there.
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Mar 27, 2017 20:08
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The hardest time I ever had in this game was climbing the Moon Tower (or whatever it was called) after having opted to do that God Beast last. High-level werewolves are jerks. Conversely I don't remember ever having much difficulty with the God-Beast of Wind, aside from the fact that you have to recast buffs/debuffs every time the phase changes because it's technically a different scene. Has the PikoPiko hammer exploit been patched?
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Mar 27, 2017 20:31
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my larger concern with the god-beast of wind is that typically to take him down you sling tons of spells, and angela is going to be our only truely offensive spellcaster. lise is not likely to have substantial spells to sling, and one of the ways they nerfed hawk was they forced his jutsus and traps to get powered up from luck instead of agility. he will not have the magical firepower he normally has in the base game. hawk will be forced to maintain a more balanced approach to stay relevant, and the god-beast of wind will basically be laughing off the physical half of his approach. by piko piko hammer i presume you mean the chibbiko hammer, the one that turns you tiny? there are patch notes surrounding fixing a bunch of stuff with that, yeah, though i was never a fan of messing with it like that anyway. basically all of the dungeons are a big black blob to me, even what we have done so far has clearly transmitted that everything we think we know about the dungeon crawls in this game is no longer valid.
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Mar 27, 2017 20:44
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Oh, yeah, it's chibikko in this game. The exploit was that since you can only have one status effect at a time, you could cure any status effect on the party by turning everyone tiny and then returning them to normal size. It rendered Puipui Grass completely irrelevant and removed a lot of stress from some bosses that liked to tag you with status effects.
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Mar 27, 2017 20:47
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ah yes, i believe they handled that by making it so you cannot use it in combat any more.
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Mar 27, 2017 20:48
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The hardest time I ever had in this game was climbing the Moon Tower (or whatever it was called) after having opted to do that God Beast last. High-level werewolves are jerks. Conversely I don't remember ever having much difficulty with the God-Beast of Wind, aside from the fact that you have to recast buffs/debuffs every time the phase changes because it's technically a different scene. I always remember the wind God-Beast because the track for that fight makes you feel badass.
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Mar 27, 2017 21:05
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The hardest time I ever had in this game was climbing the Moon Tower (or whatever it was called) after having opted to do that God Beast last. High-level werewolves are jerks. Those werewolves spamming Kevin's level 3 techs are one of the few places in a run where I ever run the risk of getting a game over. Everything is going fine and then your party is wiped out of nowhere. The enemies before the earth one were a pain as well, I think because the hedgehog enemies would lower your defense with one of their attacks and then you'd get wiped out by other attacks as a result. I would save the God Beast of light for last, just for grinding if no other reason. That area has a perfect loop of three screens that you can run around in circles over and over for great experience, and also has Mama Potos, who spawn Papa Potos, who can drop ??? seeds to get the final class changes done before getting to the illusion city. The boss spamming that one attack that turns everyone into moogles is a real pain though, especially if the hammer trick doesn't work anymore.
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Mar 27, 2017 21:16
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fortunately for us, the class change seeds are on sale later on in the game so we will not have to worry about that nonsense.
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Mar 27, 2017 21:20
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Coolguye posted:fortunately for us, the class change seeds are on sale later on in the game so we will not have to worry about that nonsense. Thank gently caress.
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Mar 27, 2017 21:22
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Coolguye posted:fortunately for us, the class change seeds are on sale later on in the game so we will not have to worry about that nonsense. What about the weapon/armor seeds? Those could be way more annoying to farm depending on which story route you chose.
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Mar 27, 2017 21:29
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Did they also change the experience curve and/or class change level requirement so that you don't have to specifically take time out to grind if you want to get your second class change at all? Like, I'd routinely hit endgame around level 33-34, just killing everything on each screen once.
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Mar 27, 2017 21:31
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:What about the weapon/armor seeds? Those could be way more annoying to farm depending on which story route you chose. TooMuchAbstraction posted:Did they also change the experience curve and/or class change level requirement so that you don't have to specifically take time out to grind if you want to get your second class change at all? Like, I'd routinely hit endgame around level 33-34, just killing everything on each screen once. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 21:37
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Coolguye posted:we are DEFINITELY leveling up way, way faster so far and i noticed XP rubberbanding in effect. at one point, Tea killed a level 4 rabite while he was level 3 and got 10 XP for it, then only received 5 after he got to 4. Excellent. Catchup experience is definitely preferable to having monsters scale to your level IMO.
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Mar 27, 2017 21:58
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Coolguye posted:zsnes 1.36 is the only emulator that has functional netplay for this game. even 1.43 crashes on all mode 7 switches. i looked at retrocore but good criminy are there billions of reports of mammoth desync with that. What, are you serious? The one thing RetroArch is supposedly good for over using a solo emulator (netplay) and it sucks at it? This does not compute. EDIT: Supposedly there was a big update specifically for netplay recently? It added zbattle-esque lobbies? https://www.libretro.com/index.php/retroarch-1-4-1-open-beta-released-highlights/ Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 22:48
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i mean i've never tried it myself so it could be that all of this stuff is just out of date, especially with the update. i'll have to download it again to look; i certainly wouldn't say no to a slicker netplay experience, especially if it can make the game look more gorgeous.
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Mar 27, 2017 22:59
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Honestly RetroArch is pretty hard to use for the vast majority of people. I would not be shocked if they did something like mix BSNES cores. EDIT: Supposedly if you want netplay you can use either the BSNES or SNES9x cores, but pick one and stick with it. And don't try anything funny like netplaying between Windows and Linux or something, it does not necessarily work cross-platform. EDIT 2: Here's some docs. https://github.com/GregorR/RetroArch/wiki/Netplay-core-testing Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 23:02
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holy god can they make this UI any worse i'm honestly asking here
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Mar 28, 2017 03:29
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It's very unintuitive and is the sole reason I do not use it.
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Mar 28, 2017 03:32
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neongrey posted:Thank gently caress. And here I was gearing up for a good two hours of grinding.
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Mar 28, 2017 12:29
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So... did Elliot just have his own copy of the key to the wind machine because he's royalty, or can only royal bloodlined types activate/deactivate things? I mean, I feel sorry as poo poo for him to be toyed with by those pesky ninja, but I kinda wonder if the Amazons could have had that thing guarded better.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:21
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i thought about calling that out in the video, but then i remembered that we are dealing with Bill and Ben here. even in vanilla, those guys are hard enough that you could hit them with diamonds and the diamonds would come away scratched. failing eliott being less of an idiot, that infiltration was gonna happen.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:42
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 Episode 02: You Just Sold the Long Spear Natural 20 fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Apr 1, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 21:02
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HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
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Mar 28, 2017 21:13
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This promises to be a wonderful treat to watch.
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Mar 29, 2017 07:50
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Pro gaming stratz. (but for real this is a good watch so far)
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It's great that the patch is more generous with the advanced items. Especially since you can replicate many of their effects later in the game with your characters, while they are much more valuable in the early game. But lol at that Angel's Grail price. I see you were forced to grind for money to afford equipment much sooner than usual 
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