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Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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I think the best way to do this is that have 1 gripen on each group of cargo planes one at alert 5 on the tarmac/runway, 1 gripen loaded with mostly CAP munitions save 2 paveways to hit the bridge once it destroys the bridge it pulls cap duty in a location between the to groups of cargo planes

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Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Davin Valkri posted:

Also for what it's worth, if you want an extra bit if insurance, we can go with two GBU-12 Paveway Gripens for the bridge, two Iris-T Gripens for close escort, and two Meteor Gripens for airborne QRF CAP. More expensive, but more capable.

sounds like a decent setup/plan i would throw the awacs up as well for early warning

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Condoleezza Nice! posted:

How long would it take to scramble up another flight, and how long would it take to reach either the target bridge or reach the end point for the escort? We could have a Gripen or two prepped for takeoff as insurance rather than sending too many assets into a combat zone.

Having Two prepped for take off sitting on the tarmac sounds like a good idea (i don't actually know if CMANO can simulate this) think alert 5 on an aircraft carrier (5 min to get launched). As far as AA goes i think having a grippen drop some laser guided bombs from altitude seems like a good idea since the altitude ceiling for dropping the bombs is above most small AA platforms range

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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CirclMastr posted:

This poo poo is expensive work. Especially when everyone is dead set on using 6 fighters when 3 will do the job.

3 could do the job but if something happens that requires more birds in the air we won't get them in the air in time due to the airport we are stationed. It's better to be safe and wasting a small amount of money than losing planes to enemy fire because they didn't have enough backup.

Edit = Grammar and readability

We are also ignoring the one thing that most Airforce's around the world do. Every plane having a wingman

Tythas fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Apr 2, 2017

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Tetraptous posted:

Our AEW will provide plenty of warning; there's no need to preemptively launch all of our fighters at once. Our Grippens can cruise from one of the mission airports to the other in about 10 minutes, if I counted right in the scenario. I say launch a couple armed for A/A just before the first transport takes off and station them near Nyingchi. If more than a couple bogies appear, we scramble more. After the transports perform their missions, a 2 ship of Grippens with Paveways goes the the bridge and bombs from high altitude, using one bomb at a time until the bridge is confirmed destroyed, since the likely threats seem to be limited to low altitude SAMs.

The issue may be how long it takes to scramble the jets from our airport we only have one airstrip we can only launch limited planes at a time

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Crazycryodude posted:

Endorsing Bacarruda's plan.

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Voting Operation Baracudda

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Voting for Bacurruda's purchase plan however i say we should buy only 12 Meteors

also sign me up for Pilot callsign zakalwe

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Baloogan posted:

airforce?
more like
chairforce

Yea but the chairs are just so comfy for government purchased chairs

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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I really hope we get to use this song at one point https://youtube.com/watch?v=dEbE3fGfF-o

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Voting NO to the museum trash we should hit up the french and see if we can get some Dassault Rafales




Edit: changed URL and added picture

Tythas fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Apr 9, 2017

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Yooper for Bacarruda's plan and keeping the strike force together for refueling the best way to go about that is to make a patrol by the refueling and have all planes in the strike forced assigned to that mission for refueling and then switch their mission when refueling is done (sadly this is some manual control)

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Yooper would you mind putting the current pilot / reserve roster in the OP? as well as the amount of AA/AG kills each pilot has?

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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It's a shame we can't put some napalm on our phantoms and just light the airbase on fire it would make things so much easier

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Voting Kill It

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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On a side note we should buy some planes capable of using napalm for maximum wacrimes profit

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Psawhn posted:

Frogfoots can carry incendiary bombs! :eng101:
New idea let's Burn the airbase :flame: :tif:

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Voting Strict Parenting with light attack still wish our F-4's had napalm for this attack

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Quinntan posted:

The Rafale would be an all round upgrade on the Gripen. Lower RCS, better radar, more Meteors, more fuel. And a price tag to match that.

We should buy 20 asap

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Yooper in this future are there any F-14's left for sale?

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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we should buy some F-15E's

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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I for one think we should buy at least one B1-B Lancer for a bomb truck and 1 or 2 Rafale M's

Edit

Any SAM's we purchase should be Russian an S-300P will cost $25 mil

Double Edit VVV thanks for the info

Tythas fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Apr 15, 2017

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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I wonder if it is possible to buy a MOAB in the future. I like Davin's idea for procurement

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Let's learn to Count in Angloa

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Let's Dance with the Angels from Lubango

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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I just wanna take a moment and thank Yooper on being an awesome GM for an amazing LP and spending his money to make things more enjoyable for everyone, I would love a way to pay you back yooper

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Loel posted:

Lubago, no split

Can we buy our infantry a Ratel IFV? Googling suggests it costs 250k, which we dont care about, and would let them be hella awesome in their campaign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratel_IFV

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1128.html

Could even get two, we dont care about fractional millions.

Id like to get them some body armor, another LMG, maybe some M203s if we could too.

https://www.stripes.com/news/shipment-of-body-armor-vests-on-its-way-to-kuwait-iraq-bound-troops-1.15344 body armor costs 1.5k ea, which lol.
M60 is around 6k, and 4 M203s would be around 5k.

I agree with this but let's also give them an extra 525k so they can buy an M4A3(76)W sherman tank and a T-34-76B

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Loel posted:

We'll need more crew members, I think we have like 12 people on the ground. Having a mechanized platoon would double or triple that.

there are plenty of people in the reserves pool that can crew it

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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We should buy them an Iowa Class Battleship

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Loel posted:

"100 million per ship."

Hmmm....

it also gives us the bonus of funding pirates no one wants to gently caress with

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Loel posted:

Proposal. Do we want to allocate 1% of each mission payoff to the grunts?

I say yes but when they hit three missions of their own we cut them off

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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I still say we buy an Iowa class Battleship if not for them, then for us to use as a pirate ship

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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so a small write up on how to take advantage of the weaknesses of one of these merc groups. SMARF so this group isn't much of a threat since their backbone is the Golden Eagles. We know from experience the Golden Eagles can only use AIM-9S IR missiles which are short range.

The real sleeper threat in their fleet is the Mitsubishi F-2 Super Kai this thing has an AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) Radar (the same type of radar in the F-22 :eng101:) they are based on the F-16 air frame but they are larger, more powerful and they carry more fuel. The F-2 Super Kai is a Multirole Aircraft that uses the AAM-5 IR missile which has a range of 10 nm, it can also use the AIM-7 sparrow III a Semi Active Radar Homing missile that requires the planes radar to be pointing at it's target. The F-2 is considered a Gen 4.9 fighter we need to be careful around them we are lucky they only have 2

Size difference between the F-16 and F-2



The KF-16C is the South Korean export version of the F-16 Block 52 it can carry 4 AIM 120B's (which have a max range of 40nm) and AGM-88B HARMS (which have a range of 70 nm) these are a high priority threat due to their AIM-120B's ( I believe the missiles can link with the F-2's AESA radar for targeting)


The Type 81 SAM system is a SHort RAnge Air Defense (SHORAD) system the max range on the missiles it uses is 8nm and max altitude is 24000ft (rounded up) relativity low threat to our grippens but a high threat to our ground pounders

I am going to make another effort post for the other group in a few hours

Tythas fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Apr 19, 2017

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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I vote for Rohan however she might be sour at us for not sending any fighters to help her airwing out against the J-20's

Can we straight up hire her into our merc group as a pilot?

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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we should hit the MLRS site with our grippens and their SDB's from range since we can launch those from our side of the line

Tythas
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Quinntan posted:

You might get the launchers themselves that way, but an MLRS launcher is really just a truck with a lot of tubes, they're not super hard to replace. Now, if you saturate the area with 2600 bomblets, you're likely to get a bunch of support vehicles, stuff like reloaders and ammunition trucks, as well as the valuable support crews. Plus, they're quite close to the front line so when we capture the area we can get the NGOs that deal with minefield clearing to clear the area of UXO.

depends on the type of MLRS if it is the exact one from the picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astros_II_MLRS than you can't simply just put the rockets in random tubes

also these MLRS are in range of hitting are airbase which should make them high priority for us

Tythas fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Apr 21, 2017

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Please note the MLRS is probable the Astros II (yooper can we confirm this) if it is here is some info on it's deployment. The Astros II are normally grouped in artillery batteries consisting on average of about 13 vehicles: 6 of them are Astros II launchers, 6 are rocket resupply trucks and 1 a special radar-equipped vehicle controlling the fire-control system

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Sending out our base air defense to protect a convoy sounds like a terrible idea because of the travel times involved since the way that most of the plans want is the air defense follow the convoy that means it has to go near the destination and back who knows how long that will take and during this time our airbase is vulnerable to an air attack of any size i say we leave the SAM's at home and just run a cap over the convoy

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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Night10194 posted:

She's either going to be an incredible hero, dead, or the greatest monster we've ever unleashed on the world.

All three of those are good options

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Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

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First Impressions Yooper when you record the video will you please play this song in the background at some point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7udx4RTj8 ( I will also take any briefing video)

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