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Give credit to Kishimoto, at least he dodged the possible incest angle right away. Other mangaka wouldn't have done that. Also, my bet: she's actually Amado's daughter.
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Only Tsunade would bet against that.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I think she's cool Her design? Baller. But I've got some serious sideye for a woman whose power is everyone falls madly in love with her and whose motivation is to enslave one of the few people who could potentially love her unconditionally. Especially considering Kishimoto's track record with writing women
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Naruto stuck using Zoom just like the rest of us. Truly a man of the people.Sindai posted:Only Tsunade would bet against that. Well, Delta is still an option. Actually, kind of weird for Eida to call her dad dreamy so... Hypocrisy fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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Apr 20, 2021 18:04
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spent this entire chapter rolling my eyes out of my head come the gently caress on with this poo poo like not only do we spend like twenty pages on two people sitting in a room and talking but our new villain is like a bundle of the weakest femme fatale cliches imaginable. Can't wait until Kawaki's love somehow redeems her in the end while she cries a single tear over the terrible things she's done or some poo poo Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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Apr 20, 2021 21:11
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She should get taken out by a I love my wife rasengan
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Apr 20, 2021 21:32
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Or going to get killed by one of the edgier edgelords uttering something along the lines of, "To protect this village, I'd kill even my wife/husband/kin."
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Apr 20, 2021 21:35
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Hinata is gonna come out swinging and somehow get 3rd eye rinnegan because Naruto falls in love. ~fin~
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Blockhouse posted:spent this entire chapter rolling my eyes out of my head My guess is she's going to be a big part of how the opening chapter ends up happening. Only thing that can ruin the power of friendship in Kishimoto's world is prideful vengeance and feminine wile.
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Feminine wile? In Naruto?SwissArmyDruid posted:Or going to get killed by one of the edgier edgelords uttering something along the lines of, "To protect this village, I'd kill even my wife/husband/kin." I mean...Sasuke is right there.
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Boruto will bust out the sexy jutsu and somehow save the day
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I want bullshit power level Mitsuki asap
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Hypocrisy posted:I mean...Sasuke is right there. You know, I originally wrote Sasuke in there, but this isn't his story anymore, so I left it open.
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Man this chapter was something. I'm actually pretty okay with the exposition itself, he covers a bunch of easy plotholes like Henge being the solution. But it's all so clunky. If this is all Kishimoto, then Naruto really was an accident. The previous super strong bad guy, who none of our heroes even came close to defeating, is dead. Well, here is his hidden subordinate who's even stronger but let his powers get curtailed because loyalty. Oh, but now he's lonely. Let's pull a perfect sensor and highly powerful android from my rear end. But she's a woman, so...now everyone is in love with her making her impossible to defeat. It somehow reminds me of how the directors of the Dragonball movies were told that every villain had to be stronger than the previous one. Except in this case it stops making sense. So any guesses on who the blood relative is going to turn out to be? My money is on Kawaki. The way Eida is drawn is something else. They obviously want her to be sexy, but she's just hideous. Well at least she doesn't appear to be a teen unlike Sarada...I hope.  One thing I do like though. Chakra was meant to be the big energy that connects everyone, from that point of view having someone with the ability to spy on literally anyone anywhere is actually pretty neat. And I can't stop laughing at Amado having to specify to Naruto that Hinata and Himawari absolutely must not take the drug, or else. That will never come into play, nope never.
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He just hung that gun and painted it neon yellow
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Rigged Death Trap posted:He just hung that gun and painted it neon yellow It's Kishimoto. There were a surprising amount of Chekov's Guns that didn't fire in Naruto, so who even knows.
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There was a lot of foreshadowing and callbacks in Naruto (albeit some of it is only called as such with the power of hindsight now that it's a completed work) Kaguya was subtly foreshadowed as far back as Pain's Invasion where Nagato says that the Chibaku Tensei he made to capture Nine-Tails was nothing compared to the Sage of Six Paths, who made the moon, yet it's such a throwaway line until Hagoromo shows up and talks about his mother hundreds of chapters later Sasuke also brought back the "You're not afraid, are you?"/"What's the matter, scaredy-cat?" shtick in chapter 647
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I think there’s a line from Kabuto back during the Sasuke Retrieval Arc about Kimimaro being from the Kaguya Clan as well (though it never comes up again so I’m not sure if that counts as foreshadowing or not). Also, I don’t believe said line is present in the anime version for whatever reason.
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Larryb posted:I think there’s a line from Kabuto back during the Sasuke Retrieval Arc about Kimimaro being from the Kaguya Clan as well (though it never comes up again so I’m not sure if that counts as foreshadowing or not). Also, I don’t believe said line is present in the anime version for whatever reason. The Kaguya Clan thing is in the manga. It's just one of those things, where they're one of the random descendants of her sons' lines, ala the Hyuuga and Uchiha. This basically gets paid off when Kaguya uses bone moves during her fight.
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Teek posted:The Kaguya Clan thing is in the manga. It's just one of those things, where they're one of the random descendants of her son's lines, ala the Hyuuga and Uchiha. This basically gets paid off when Kaguya uses bone moves during her fight. Ah yeah, forgot about that. Not sure why the line about the Kaguya Clan was cut from the anime though (or was it, I forget)
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Nah, it was there. The anime actually gave a little bit more about the Kaguya Clan than the manga did when Kimimaro was introduced. Not a whole lot, just some other clan members appearing and raising hell during his backstory time. Also a Zabuza and Haku appearance, which was nice, but still just makes the timeline weird as hell when it comes to Kimimaro, Juugo and the curse seals. Not that this was a problem just in the anime, it just made it all the more blatant that it doesn't make much sense. Seems like something they would have addressed in the anime at some point with an Anko story, but they never did. Teek fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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Man thinking back to the early Naruto story and how generally well written it was, the post time-skip era was such a gradual let down in comparison. So much interesting lore and power levels built up only to be written off as soon as Akatsuki showed up and power crept everything to poo poo.
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Teek posted:Nah, it was there. The anime actually gave a little bit more about the Kaguya Clan than the manga did when Kimimaro was introduced. Not a whole lot, just some other clan members appearing and raising hell during his backstory time. Ah yeah, they never really did much with Anko aside from a filler arc during the first season that went into her backstory a bit more (which is still more than the manga ever did to be fair). Tenten also got a lot more focus in the anime for whatever reason whereas in the manga she was mostly just a talking prop at best (we don’t even get to see her fight in the manga version until the War arc if I remember right)
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I'm not saying Kishimoto never foreshadowed stuff, but that obviously he foreshadowed a bunch of things he ultimately didn't pay off, especially in part 2, where you have stuff like Naruto's injuries/lifespan-shortening never paying off in any meaningful way, Naruto's jutsu he was never supposed to use turning out to be the jinchuuriki transformation which no one else ever referred to as a jutsu, there's a whole bunch of manipulations Tobi does to get Sasuke to work for Akatsuki and he seems to even want to attach him to the statue, and then it all turns out to be... nothing??? Because they can just seal the bijuu without anybody being attached to the statue. All in all, I'd say that Naruto's ending came together miraculously well and the power creep was even... somewhat justified and foreshadowed in Part 1, but even just spending a little bit of time paying attention to the details it's obvious that Kishimoto wasn't able or maybe even willing to pay off every single idea he put down for the sake of having foreshadowing for the future. Then again, Boruto is a slower monthly series, so it's likely that he has more time to plan out in advance now. Which incidentally also means that there's no excuse for stuff like Eida, c'mon. EDIT: Oh, the Akatsuki rings were treated as very important initially and then nothing came up with them. At least it was one of those details where you can kinda see what it could mean in your head. Fair Bear Maiden fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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Why is the adult woman calling a twelve year old boy 'cute and dreamy' 
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Pyrotoad posted:Why is the adult woman calling a twelve year old boy 'cute and dreamy' I mean, we have no idea how old she is, tbh. But this reminded me of something that's been bugging me... in the anime, Kawaki looks like he's something like 16 or 17, but in the manga I always assumed, based on how he was drawn, that he'd be the same age as Boruto. Which is it? Is Kawaki so socially stunted because of his Kara training that he became 'bros' with a tween? Do the anime people just assume bad boys age faster?
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I assumed Kawaki was older.
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Same, I thought he was older based on the flashbacks to when he was "acquired" from his father and how they framed the time since the war, plus how long he had been with the Kara.
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I don't mind Eida, she has a clear selfish and villianous motivation and spends most of her non-exposition time passive agressivley making GBS threads on the mess called Code.
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I fear no ninja But that face  It scares me
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Speaking of which, new chapter: https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/boruto-chapter-58/chapter/22432?action=read
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Naruto's face was the best part of the chapter, though.
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I’m not sure how I feel about this chapter. On the one hand, cool to see the kids together as a team and train. On the other this didn’t progress the story or give us new insights in their relationships. We already knew Kawaki was a shithead and inpatient. We already knew he and Burrito have a begrudging respect for eachother. I suppose the one thing it did give us is Kawaki showing he wants to get stronger any way he can find. Which will probably lead to his downfall. I feel like this chapter could’ve accomplished the same at half the length.
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I think the sequence where he fights Boruto was also supposed to imply that in a sense, he misses Karma, which is something that was already alluded to by Amado during the Isshiki fight. It really does feel like the manga is spinning its wheels at the moment though. Even at its worst, Naruto never felt like this to me. Maybe it's just rose-tinted glasses though.
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I'm sure it'll make sense in the anime after 100 episodes of Kawaki and Boruto hanging out and going on various missions
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Speaking of, I’m guessing the anime will be going back to filler territory (if you can even call it that since in this case it’s mostly just expanding on the manga) pretty soon. Possibly during the time where Kawaki is training/working on fixing Himawari’s vase. Also it’s odd they haven’t announced a second Boruto movie yet (I think the original and Shippuden had at least two or three under their belt by this point in the series).
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Kind of a rough chapter for a month's wait but I guess they have to explicitly show Kawaki doing more ninja training (and also dislike the ninja way).
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It's funny, because Boruto is doing stuff that I wish Naruto had spent the time to do pre-time jump. Which is actually like spend time with Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura, and the other kids to establish a real and shown relationship, and not just abuse flashbacks to show character interactions.
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I forget, was Kurama talking to Kawaki about Naruto’s past in the manga or just something the anime added (which was a good decision in my opinion if the latter)? I don’t remember if the upcoming Sasuke story is also from the manga or if we’re back to anime only content (seems like it could be interesting at least). Larryb fucked around with this message at 04:53 on May 31, 2021 |
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