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exploded mummy posted:In alternate non-video game media I'd look at stuff like the Gorillaz or even Duck Tales.
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It gets even more ridiculous if you look at the backstories and world building of pen and paper games. There are like a thousand semi-canonical novels and books for those. I'm barely exaggerating. I guess since there are Shadowrun video games, that is a good example either way. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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exploded mummy posted:Starship Titanic had a novel that explained the premise of the game then the game ever did, and that was a Douglas Adam production. That he be allowed to write the entire novel naked. God I wish Starship Titanic was better coded so that it could be run easily on modern computers  If ever there was a game that I could consider sitting down and doing an LP of it would be that. InequalityGodzilla fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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InequalityGodzilla posted:I cannot let a mention of Starship Titanic or its novelization go by without mentioning that said novelization was written by John Cleese of Monty Python fame, and that when Douglas Adams asked him to write it Cleese had one requirement that he would not budge on: http://store.steampowered.com/app/467290/Starship_Titanic/ Buck fifty on steam right now. I could be wrong but aren't steam releases somewhat updated for modern OS? E: Wikipedia claims Terry Jones to be responsible for the novel. I don't care enough to dig deeper though. Not A Gay Name fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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DarkId isn't kidding about how broken Bomb with 3 pods is by the way, I went up against the final boss for route A (admittedly over-leveled from sidequests) and did more than half its health with it 
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Not A Gay Name posted:http://store.steampowered.com/app/467290/Starship_Titanic/ Buck fifty on steam right now. I could be wrong but aren't steam releases somewhat updated for modern OS? How the gently caress did that manage to slip onto steam without me noticing?!And yeah you're absolutely right, it was Terry Jones, not John Cleese. Looking at my copy now. Cleese did voice the parrot and, if I recall correctly, the bomb as well. InequalityGodzilla fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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O-other people who know of both Starship Titanic and its novel? Did I stumble into an alternate universe?? I've been praying for a HD, thorough LP of Starship Titanic for years - there was an ancient old one on Google Video but haha.
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asymmetrical posted:O-other people who know of both Starship Titanic and its novel? Did I stumble into an alternate universe?? I've been praying for a HD, thorough LP of Starship Titanic for years - there was an ancient old one on Google Video but haha. If I ever did LPs I thought it'd be the number one LP I would want to do since it's one of those games which is much better to watch than to play due to the bullshit puzzles and dialogue engine. I'm really surprised to see it on Steam because I thought the game fell into some kind of black hole after release
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I don't think this is what you were going for, but I appreciate the mental image of a partition in A2's black box dedicated to video game novelizations, old point and click adventure games & remixes of the DuckTales theme song. e: of course she can print her own, haven't you heard how unit 8S carried that printer half a mile through the forest zone?
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Rangpur posted:I don't think this is what you were going for, but I appreciate the mental image of a partition in A2's black box dedicated to video game novelizations, old point and click adventure games & remixes of the DuckTales theme song. Race cars, spaceships, aeroplanes! It's a duck- *stabs baby robot* blur! Might solve a myst-*dodges 2B's attacks mystery! Might rewrite history! Duck tales! *delivers cryptic one liner and jumps out window* Woohoo! A2's thought process, because even thousands of years from now there will still be ear worms.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Isn't that kind of a Japanese thing? A lot of games have side stories, audio plays and other supplemental materials that never come to the West. I think that awful FFX-3 thing was along those lines. I'm a fan of the Killzone novel. (Note: I am not actually a fan of the Killzone novel, don't loving read it)
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Adnor posted:If anyone plans to buy Nier on Steam, remember to use FAR, fixes a lot of the performance issues. I finally got the game! But played this on a pc it's decent specs (just below the recommended specs, better than the minimum) and even with FAR and it on the lowest settings it lags.
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Episode XLV: A Need for Speed.jpg) Today’s aim is to finish up the remaining City Ruin sidequests that we’re capable of completing at this juncture. Of which there are really only two remaining. Unfortunately, one of ‘em is the shittiest quest in the game...  Music: Rays of Light (Quiet) .jpg) .jpg) Today’s shitshow takes us to the wrecked highway onramp found just to the west of the Resistance Camp, next to the friendly wrecked Engels unit (whose quest we’ll be finishing after this.) Before we initiate this sidequest, we do need to do a bit of prep work. .jpg) We are going to dive into our Plug-in Chip menu and create a new loadout. In our secondary loadout here, we’re going to cram 2B with every single Movement Speed Up and Evade Range Up chip we have in our inventory. At least to a point...  All abilities do have a hard cap on how much they can increase any android’s capability. The game will inform us when we reach that limit and that any further chips of the same category are useless. 20% higher speed is the cap for Movement Speed Up, for instance. That’ll have to do. .jpg) To initiate this next quest, we need to climb to the edge of the onramp and speak with a blue flyer-type machine lifeform cruising in circles near the ruins’ edge. I’m fairly certain I hate this NPC more than any other character in the game. I might go so far as to say I hate this NPC more than anyone in either NieR... .jpg)  Life is a fleeting moment! We must fly straight like an arrow so we never lose our way! So let us see which of us is faster! Believe in yourself and grasp the future with both hands! <Take him on!> Oooo yeaaaaaah! You’re goin’ down!.jpg) So begins the worst quest in NieR: Automata – Speed Star. Are you playing this game for the first time... or really any time and are not obsessed with completionism? Skip this sidequest! Just don’t do it! Even if you’re going for all the achievements legit, you only need to complete 80% of them. Just walk away! Just leave that total completion number down a few ticks and walk away... .jpg) We are instantly transported to the edge of the City Ruins crater, just a little ways north of Engels. Speed Star, if the name doesn’t give it away, is a racing sidequest i.e. the worst type of quest in any open world game or RPG since time immemorial. And it’s a multi-part one at that. Let’s take a look... .jpg) .jpg) 2B needs to make her way up a couple of ruined buildings and along some overgrown tree roots to a nearby cliff. Sounds simple enough, right? See the problem is the High-speed Machine, if you haven’t noticed, has a hovercraft for a lower torso. Only 2B has to go through that whole jumping course to reach the finish. This cheating motherfucker will just fly in a straight line from the start to the goal. .jpg) Three... Two... One... Go!Music: Birth of a Wish (No Vocals) .jpg) So there’s a few notes about this race. 2B moves roughly twice as fast as High-speed Machine with all her Movement Up chips installed. But the machine also only has to cover half the ground or less. So it evens out quite quickly. And by quite quickly I mean gently caress up once doing the most optimal path and we’re done. There’s a few notes to be made about 2B covering long distances that are relevant only here because this is the solitary time the game requires it... .jpg) 2B’s dash is as fast as her sprinting, but dashing repeatedly is slower than just sprinting. EXCEPT on inclines/rocky terrain it’s possibly for 2B to trip and lose momentum. 2B won’t trip while dashing. So there’s that. Also, apparently it’s surprisingly to a lot of people but you only need to tap dash once. Not hold it. Unless 2B stumbles or another action is performed to take her out of a dash, she’ll haul rear end on her own. .jpg) Second note: Never mantle up ledges. The animation is slow as hell and kills 2B’s momentum. It is possible to double jump over both these buildings and clean ‘em without 2B lifting herself up over a ledge. Having to mantle once is real bad. Having to clamber up a ledge twice means 2B probably lost the race. There is only one part of this entire quest where 2B has to climb up a ledge. It’s the single worst part of the quest. We’ll get to that next race. .jpg) Last note: This game’s platforming is still janky as gently caress, just like it was when we were doing that platforming challenge for that Dragon Quest stick. If 2B air-dashes into an incline that looks like she should tumble off, more often than not she’ll magically float upwards to the top of the platform. Don’t question it. Gravity and this game are at odds. Even so, it’s very likely to see this more than a few times... .jpg) Life is too short for you to spend it running about in useless circles! Now get your dander up and try challenging me again! .jpg) At this point we can re-challenge the High-speed Machine which will reset the race. Unfortunately, every retry we have to sit through a 15 second animation of the side quest prompt, the goal being pointed out and a countdown before the race begins. So that’s fun... Let’s try that again... .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) Get hosed, Speed Star. .jpg) I’m excited to test your skills again! And next time, we’ll take things up a notch! That completes the first part of Speed Star. Unfortunately, there’s two more races left. Speed Star will get canceled along with many other outstanding quests if we progress the storyline. And since it’s a multi-stage quest, not a questline like Father Servo’s business, failing it now means restarting all the races from the beginning on a secondary playthrough. No thanks! Let’s continue... .jpg) Wonderful! I knew you couldn’t resist the thrill of the chase the moment I laid eyes on you! Now let’s have a race that will make our very souls quiver with delight! <Yes, let’s quiver!> An excellent response! .jpg) Time for the second race. For me, this one was the biggest pain in the rear end. .jpg) .jpg) For this race, we’re on a nearby rooftop above where the previous race ended. Here 2B has got to run across several rooftops and across a couple alleyway gaps then clamber up to the top of that roof across the way to reach the goal. High-speed Machine, the trashcan looking motherfucker, will just fly across that gap ahead straight onto the roof. .jpg) Three... Two... One... Go!.jpg) .jpg) 2B has to make her way across several rooftops lined with derelict air units and rooftop access ways. Here’s a hard and fast rule for this race: if 2B fails to clear any of these obstacles and has to climb up any of ‘em, she’s lost the race. .jpg) .jpg) That is mostly because this is the solitary race that actually requires climbing up a ledge. One that has to be double-jumped to reach the ledge. Hopefully. You see, there’s no button to climb ledges. It’s an automatic action. One which is really janky and finicky in triggering. If 2B is like a pixel too low on her jump or isn’t at precisely the right angle, it will simply fail to trigger. And then you’ll see High-speed Machine with his loving hover rear end float right on past and win the loving race the third loving time and you go look up who worked on level design for NieR: Automata and consider flying there and burning their house down while they and their family are trapped ins—oh... Where was I? Right. gently caress this race... .jpg) I know you can do this! I KNOW it! Now get out there and give it everything you’ve got!If you’re wondering, if you attempt to murder High-speed Machine, he’s invincible and just tells you to save it for the race... .jpg) .jpg) Since High-speed Machine is a cheating rear end in a top hat, I see no reason why we shouldn’t do the same. Here’s a fun trick: Did you know charging up the Pod Program causes time to slow down for about three seconds for everything but 2B? It’s true! Also, a Pod Program attack can be canceled by hitting the standard Pod fire button. With this in mind, it’s possible to chain charge/cancel the Pod Program and slow down the machine’s bullshit advance to give 2B an advantage. Granted, this only works particularly well while 2B is on solid ground and this particular race is very jump heavy. But hey... .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) We’re essentially in a foot race with a dickhead wearing a jetpack. gently caress ‘em! .jpg) Keep it up! I want us to grow ever faster together! I’ll be here whenever you’re ready to try me again! That’s the worst of it over. One more race to go. Let’s finish this garbage so I can return to ignoring every single racing sidequest in every genre offering it. .jpg) I feel it in my core—today is the day we pursue the ultimate in speed! We shall break down all barriers! Sound! Light! Tachyon! Never doubt your true potential! <Let’s do it!> Aaah ha ha! Today we show the world what it means to be speed itself!.jpg) Here we are: the final race of Speed Star. A lot of people seem to have trouble with this one, but I found it to be the easiest of the three. .jpg) .jpg) This time we’re starting on the edge of the roof where the previous race ended and our goal is clear across the City Ruins sinkhole. Which means making our way to ground level and making a mad dash along the crater’s perimeter to the goal at the far end. .jpg) Three... Two... One... Go!.jpg) The first order of business is getting off this rooftop. It’s a hell of a drop to the bottom. One that 2B will take fall damage from and be briefly stunned if she just goes for it leaping from the room. There’s a couple ways to prevent dropping like a stone and taking damage. .jpg) .jpg) The easiest to execute is being equipped with a Large Sword in the heavy attack slot and doing a downward aerial strike. This will near instantly drop 2B to ground level and the recovery animation for the impact can be canceled by performing a dash. .jpg) Now it’s just a straight footrace along the ruins of this road up the hill. At least for 2B. High-speed Machine is just flying across the chasm because he’s a huge piece of poo poo. But there’s one more trick we can employ in this final race. .jpg) Speed Salves are a common Support Item drop. They increase 2B’s running speed for 15/30 seconds depending on the size of the item used. There is absolutely no other point in the entire game where these items are remotely necessary other than this race. So there’s no shame in having 2B down some performance enhancers to finish this trash tier sidequest. .jpg) .jpg) There’s no real other tricks to this race. It’s just a matter of running the optimal route as fast as possible and making a jump they put at the very end like jerks. .jpg) I’ve done this sidequest three times now (initial playthrough, LP update playthrough, highlight reel video) and won this race the first time each of ‘em. .jpg) Where you been you slow rear end busta? Time you retired. Even 9S got here before you and he’s tripping over his own two feet as we speak. Sad! Music: Rays of Light (Quiet) .jpg) As proof of your astonishing victory, I give you this. I can no longer challenge you. .jpg) Gee thanks. A chip and some Support Items that are about as useful as an rear end in a top hat on my elbow now that this sidequest is concluded. You shouldn’t have... .jpg) It’s strange. I thought I’d be sad, but instead I feel... peace. When I think back on how competitive I was before, it seems so very ugly. But that was my life, and thus, I own it. I am content. ...... I am content....jpg) ...Well that happened. Personally, I’m glad he’s dead. gently caress that guy! .jpg) Thus concludes the worst sidequest in NieR: Automata. There’s maybe one more that’s more tedious overall. But that was definitely the most annoyed with the game I got at any point. Racing sidequests are and will forever be the shittiest of the poo poo busy work in games that aren’t racers. .jpg) .jpg) ... ...... ...OK. I’ll give you that, Speed Star. That’s a pretty good dumb gag. .jpg) Anyway, before we conclude this update we do have another sidequest we can knock out. One that’s been around for a while. Machine Examination 2 now has a new part to it beyond just chatting with Engels about the world occasionally. Let’s see what’s up with the old machine. .jpg)  What’s going on? You seem pretty low, even by machine standards. My lifespan’s expiration period is drawing to a close. Are you asking us to repair you? Because that’s a pretty selfish request. No. Do not repair me. Huh?Music: ENDS .jpg) Do you remember when you spoke of “sin”? You were right to call it so. I killed many of your kind. Killed androids beyond counting. It meant nothing while I was connected to the network. But now I understand. I know the anguish it has caused you. I must atone. Wait. Are you... My existence is ending. I am... dying. Please take my parts... and use them elsewhere. Farewell... androids... *powers down and dies* Ah! ......New Music: Blissful Death .jpg) Upon its death, Engels leaves behind a couple of fairly nice chips for the androids. Fast Cooldown isn’t generally something I personally waste chip space on since cooldowns are swift enough as it is. But Max HP Up +6 is a 50% increase of 2B’s total health pool and that ain’t nothing to sneeze at... But that’s not all Engels left behind. .jpg) Engels has a final Intel Archive which is automatically added to our database. Let’s take a look at the final record of Engels. .jpg) Pondering about one’s own existence and place in the universe. Also birds are cool. Engels 110-B seemed like an OK machine once it chilled out with the warpath. At least he was better than that prick High-speed Machine. .jpg) We’re no different. Huh? How so? We’ve destroyed machines beyond counting. Perhaps someone sees that as a sin. 2B....jpg) And on that somber note, the Machine Examination quest ends. And with it, the last of the City Ruin’s sidequests we’ll be tackling in this playthrough. Tune in next time as we expand our horizons to    Video: Episode 45 Highlight Reel   Flyer Machine Lifeform Concept Art – Cheating sons of bitches, all of ‘em! The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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This poo poo sucked. I had to use the pod charge to do the third race only though. It was a major help.
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The Dark Id posted:And then you’ll see High-speed Machine with his loving hover rear end float right on past and win the loving race the third loving time and you go look up who worked on level design for NieR: Automata and consider flying there and burning their house down while they and their family are trapped ins— Harsh, but fair.
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I would prefer not to quiver!
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gently caress Speed Star. At least the reward is good. (the fucker exploding) At least Engels is cool. Bye Engels.
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The only one that tripped me up was the third race, but I had already done so much obsessive chip-tuning and running between areas at that point that the only course I hadn't covered 50+ times was that third weird lip. gently caress that pit lip. Also gently caress that you have to finish the course to reset it, thinking on it! Ugh! No concede button!
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Okay the explosions arent new and that racer guy clearly deserved it but that second explosion caught me off guard in a hilarious way still
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Engels 110-B is apparently Android 16 from Dragonball Z Abridged.
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The Dark Id posted:Racing sidequests are and will forever be the shittiest of the poo poo busy work in games that aren’t racers. /Update%2014/11-image013.gif) I guess there's an exception to every rule.
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Racing's way more bearable as a mini-game than trying to shoehorn it into regular gameplay
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Kavak posted:Racing's way more bearable as a mini-game than trying to shoehorn it into regular gameplay I beg to differ. I played several games where the racing mini-game was just: mash these two buttons as fast as possible. Races can be kinda fun in platformers, though. But there are some differences Either it's about finding creative routes using skillful jumps like a speedrunner, or it's a complete lack of choice where you have to make every jump pixel perfect. Rayman Legends had some cool racing levels. Keep it up! I want us to grow ever faster together! I’ll be here whenever you’re ready to try me again! even. At least I think so. That jerk might have a weird speech pattern. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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Huh, on the second race I went straight forward from the start, dropping off the building and running along the ground, then cut right a bit to climb up a big root to get on top of the building and never had much trouble on that stage. Never used any tricks with the pods or speed salves either  but yeah gently caress this quest it's lovely.
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I forgot salves and speed up chips were a thing when I did this I did the first two races legit, then used a pod trick to beat the final one by a split hair. Also I did it while my boyfriend was in the country. On his file. Then realized I have to do it on my own file too afterwards 
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People finding the third race more difficult might be because Race 1 is easy, and Race 2 is mostly jumps, so even with a small 0~6% Movement Speed upgrade, they can be completed with enough trial and error. Race 3 has a long stretch of sprint or two, so if you try to tackle Speed Star as early as you can with minimal chips, you simply cannot win, even with a flawless execution. At least that's what happened to me at first. 
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Rest in peace, hoverboy.
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I hate Speed Star I hate Speed Star I hate Speed Star I HATE SPEED STAR 
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Synthbuttrange posted:Huh so... you didnt see Engels get into a fake fight with you because he was bored? What's this now?
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I lost the third one a couple times, but then something broke and I could move during the countdown and got like halfway to the finish line by the time it was done. Pretty bad set of sidequests, but the escort poo poo was definitely worse for me.
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You can also charge your pod programs as you run, that slows down time a bit and was the only thing that let me recover from a full faceplant off the skyscraper in the third race
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Well, it IS a Yoko Taro game. Makes sense we'd have at least one BS sidequest a la the drat pink moonflowers or the Wayward Son.
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I can think of one or two we've yet to see that are arguably just as bad... but each is bad in a different way, so I think it's a toss-up. Speed Star was absolutely the most rage-inducing, however. I try not to resort to 'the computer cheated,' when I lose games but Automata goes out of it's way to demonstrate yes, that little poo poo is 100% cheating. In an rear end in a top hat-ish way, it's really quite skillfully done!
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Momomo posted:I lost the third one a couple times, but then something broke and I could move during the countdown and got like halfway to the finish line by the time it was done. Pretty bad set of sidequests, but the escort poo poo was definitely worse for me. Same thing happened to me, along with respawning below the ledge. That was quite a helpful bug.
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The worst part of this quest is definitely the time between races. I don't need you to zoom in slowly on the destination every time, game!
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Dabir posted:What's this now? It happened while I was running past him. He started announcing 'Android lifeforms detected initiating combat' and started spamming huge amounts of bullet orbs... that dont do damage. Then he yells about being defeated by the enemy when you get close to him and he 'powers down'.  I dont know what the trigger is but I figured since Dark Id got to the point where he's DEAD he must have missed it Synthbuttrange fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jun 25, 2017 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:It happened while I was running past him. He started announcing 'Android lifeforms detected initiating combat' and started spamming huge amounts of bullet orbs... that dont do damage. Then he yells about being defeated by the enemy when you get close to him and he 'powers down'. I have never seen that before
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Synthbuttrange posted:It happened while I was running past him. He started announcing 'Android lifeforms detected initiating combat' and started spamming huge amounts of bullet orbs... that dont do damage. Then he yells about being defeated by the enemy when you get close to him and he 'powers down'. I never saw that when I was playing. Do you remember at what point in the sidequest you were up to when it happened?
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