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Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007

The Repo Man posted:

Naw, Kojima is a an amazing conceptual designer, but without a good editor or someone to tell him NO THAT'S loving STUPID STOP IT, he's not that great. Taro is far better at what Kojima wants to do: Use games as a medium for story telling. See: NieR.
Yeh, Kojima is a man who is in dire need of a group of editors to strongarm him when he starts to throw some of his dumber poo poo around.

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silentbrains
Mar 18, 2009

chiasaur11 posted:

"Is there going to be a fight here later, or are you just that poo poo?"

I like to think that it's players donating their characters to the cloud, but I guess it could be boars or something?

mazloum
Mar 29, 2016
I wish the game gave you an option of removing the blindfold and tied it to some HUD elements. Like 'Oh, sure, take it off, but that takes away the minimap/HP indicators/etc.'

Beyond the chips themselves, I mean.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

The Repo Man posted:




Naw, Kojima is a an amazing conceptual designer, but without a good editor or someone to tell him NO THAT'S loving STUPID STOP IT, he's not that great. Taro is far better at what Kojima wants to do: Use games as a medium for story telling. See: NieR.

I think Revengeance is what you get when you have a Metal Gear story with editors, so I'm okay with that.

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





mazloum posted:

I wish the game gave you an option of removing the blindfold and tied it to some HUD elements. Like 'Oh, sure, take it off, but that takes away the minimap/HP indicators/etc.'

Beyond the chips themselves, I mean.
Pretty sure the blindfold is symbolic. Remember, the soundtrack for the YorHa fortress is literally called "Fortress of Lies", is that the music of someone who's on the level?

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
Oh come now, that's just a name. Like "Forbidden Zone of Certain Death", or "The Fields of Bloody Viscera", or "Lord of the Damned and Arch-Flayer of the Innocents". It doesn't mean anything.

The Repo Man
Jul 31, 2013

I Remember...

Geostomp posted:

I think Revengeance is what you get when you have a Metal Gear story with editors, so I'm okay with that.

Revengance is pretty much :krad: all the way through.

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Pretty sure the blindfold is symbolic. Remember, the soundtrack for the YorHa fortress is literally called "Fortress of Lies", is that the music of someone who's on the level?

IIRC Taro said as much and the operators' veils are similarly symbolic.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Nina posted:

IIRC Taro said as much and the operators' veils are similarly symbolic.

In that case, does anyone wear earmuffs or other symbolic ear coverings? That'd round out the set.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Sylphosaurus posted:

As long as they keep Kojima from it I'd love to see a Platinum take on Zone of the Enders.

Kojima never really had a big role in ZOE in the first place. He was just a producer.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

Ratoslov posted:

In that case, does anyone wear earmuffs or other symbolic ear coverings? That'd round out the set.

The in-field units who are the eyes of the ops have blindfolds, and the operators who are the mouth of the operation and relay all the instructions have the veils. Since nobody's ever listening, ear covering is probably useless. Either that or the Council of Humanity on the moon wears them, which we haven't seen.

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

You mean to tell me you've already forgotten beloved DJ & martyr 42S of WYRH FM? With all his classic character voices like The Mongoose & The Mongoose (but slightly deeper) & The Mongoose (with a bad French accent)?

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
Well, he's wearing the full set, really, so it doesn't count for the symbolism theme.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Ratoslov posted:

In that case, does anyone wear earmuffs or other symbolic ear coverings? That'd round out the set.

The machines don't have ears or mouths! They're just smooth spheres and cylinders with dots on them

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)

HenryEx posted:

Well, he's wearing the full set, really, so it doesn't count for the symbolism theme.

See no evil, speak no evil, be in absolute sensory deprivation from evil

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009

Sylphosaurus posted:

As long as they keep Kojima from it I'd love to see a Platinum take on Zone of the Enders.

SHUT UP IM DINGO

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Reminder that 9S has his tactical blindfold serve also as an earmuff so the Supports are the "Hear No Evil" to the "See No Evil" Battlers and the "Speak No Evil" Operators.

42S was just trying to speedrun through and got owned for going too deep.

Skylight
Nov 25, 2011

DIE TO THE DEATH!
SENTANCE TO DEATH!
GREAT EQUALIZER IS THE DEATH!


Sage Grimm posted:

42S was just trying to speedrun through and got owned for going too deep.

Remember kids: a responsible speedrun is one where you save your game regularly. 42S did not save regularly and now he is dead. Don't be him.

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]
Episode XXVI: The Most Dangerous Catch


Music: Peaceful Sleep (Vocal)




OK. That’s one morally dubious quest in the backlog down. Let’s move on to checking out that sig—hold it... Wait up... Since when are there TWO weirdo androids wearing machine heads in the camp? What’s your story, dude...?



Put this on, and you can see the whole world!



A Strange Resistance Man has joined the Strange Resistance Woman in completely disregarding the 4th Wall and providing a few tutorial tips. Or rather... I think this might be less tutorial and more a series of questions playtesters had and this may as well be Yoko Taro telling them to shut up, nerds. Fine... We’ll play ball. Let’s just go down the list...

> Reading mail is inconvenient.



Still, there are a lot of androids who use mail because they like how retro it is. Kind of a hipster thing, I guess.

Good to know hipsters are still a thing 11,000 years in the future. As is email. Time is a flat circle.

> It’s hard to see the 3D map...



The satellite camera doesn’t have very good resolution, so you can’t see fine details or tell what’s underground. Other androids are also dissatisfied with it, but that’s the way it is, I’m afraid. Some choose to walk on their own two feet and discover things for themselves... Hint, hint! You’ll just have to get used to it.

I bet he’s winking under that mask. Assuming it’s a mask and he didn’t just replace his head with a machine’s head. I... don’t know... if androids can do that. Hey, can I ask a bonus question...? No? Frick. Fiiiine...

> What’s the currency in this world?



It’s much easier than digging up the iron ourselves. Worth is decided according to weight of the enemy and value of the parts obtained. We call that unit ‘G’. ...Huh? What’s ‘G’ stand for? Sorry! That’s classified.

Gum. We’re operating entirely on a Gum based economy in the far flung future. Intact Bazooka Joe pieces are worth a small fortune. Juicy Fruit are the pennies of this system. It’s very complex. But, enough of that... Final question!

> What’s a black box?



The black box is a fusion reactor installed in all YoRHa units. But we Resistance folks don’t know much about its construction. Apparently it uses some kind of mysterious material... Say, maybe you’d let me rip it out of you and take it apart for analysis! ...No? Hey, fair enough. Can’t blame a guy for trying.

Alright, big guy. That’s enough questions for today. Not sure why they waited about half-way through the first playthrough to add this weirdo. Strange Resistance Woman might get additional functionality later on. But this guy is just here to tell you it’s just a video game, you should probably chill.



Anyway, we DID get a new sidequest from 6O on the way to dealing with the YoRHa Betrayers Burn Notice murders. Let’s knock that out real quick, since it is right in the area.


Music: Rays of Light (Medium)




As we head back out into the field, it is worth mention that most all wandering machine lifeforms in the field have ceased being docile and now will immediately aggro if they spot any androids in their vicinity. There is still the seldom wandering neutral machine on occasion. But it’s very rare now and they’ll shortly vanish completely. Can’t even fish in peace anymore. A shame...





The Access Terminal in question is the same one Jackass installed following our meet-and-greet with Eve and Adam in the alien graveyard. Seems the machines haven’t taken kindly to the installation of a busted vending machine in their neighborhood.



Alert: Jamming signals detected from enemy units.
Yeah?
That’s not good.



Hey! Jackasses! Knock that poo poo off! Do you know how expensive those vending machines are...? At least a few thousand G? What...? No, I don’t know how much a G is worth in old world currency. Why even care?! You’re a sentient trashcan! Why am I even talking to you?!



So you may notice these machines have a new paint job. These are Enhanced versions of machine lifeforms we’ve already seen aka a Palette Swap. No, this game won’t be going the Final Fantasy X route of having 53 slightly reskinned varieties of the same dozen machines. There’s only the one reskin of the same dozen machines and this is it! Enhanced Machines are usually about 5+ levels above the average wandering machine at any point in the game and are far more aggressive than the average robot.



Due to their level buff, they obviously hit much more damaging than most but... otherwise, they’re exactly the same as their predecessor models. I guess they might be somewhat faster on the draw. But that just might be the red paint job tricking me into believing they're faster. It’s difficult to say. Regardless, given the rough time we had fighting those hostile androids earlier, this is a piece of cake.





Afterwards, we just need to sort out those Enhanced Stubby machines and the Access Point should be free and clear! Job well do—



Oh... Huh. Didn’t notice you there, axebot. Were you hiding in the caves or something? Sneaky little bugge—





AWW CHRIST! I think we stepped into the wrong neighborhood. Turns out they were holding a Machine Lifeform Lumberjack convention nearby and they got wind the androids were bullying the boys down in the alien graveyard hole again.



And they are PISSED!





Suddenly getting assaulted by eight big axe-wielding jerks jumping in the hole to rumble is more startling than difficult. Despite being Enhanced versions, they still telegraph all their attacks by a mile and dodging any of their blows is so generous that they may as well not even try. Additionally, despite looking quite large, these guys really have trouble staying on their feet. A Perfect Dodge > Pod Counter will send everyone hit by the blow flying. Missile Pod also does fairly well here since it’s simple enough to pull back and just dump on the crowd. With a Mirage Pod Program to punish the entire group when they catch up.





Regardless, destroying the lumberjack machine brigade will bring this very short sidequest to a close. As soon as we inspect the Access Point and confirm it’s still functional, Pod 042 will relay mission success back to the Bunker and the Commander immediately phones back...



The signal from the access point just came back online. Good job.
I have some information about that, Commander.
Go on.
The access point went offline because machine lifeforms were jamming it.
Which means they know that facility is one of our network terminals...
Yeah, but that’s not all. While they knew it was connected to our network, they didn’t try to destroy it. It’s almost like they were trying to lay a trap.
drat... They’re getting smarter by the day. Thank you. I’ll be sure to share this with the Council of Humanity on the moon.
Understood.





And with a modest EXP bonus, that concludes the short sidequest to see what’s up with machines kicking our vending machines in a pit. Great, now the machines are setting ambushes. It starts with something simple like that... Then the next thing you know some poor android is trapped in some hellish Home Alone-esque scenario concocted by the machines.





We do have one final bit of business in our backlog before we start taking on any new sidequests. Remember that email Jackass sent us? Something about a fish...? How about we go check that out. The last place we saw Jackass was back in the Desert Camp. Let’s see if she’s still hanging out around there...


Music: Memories of Dust (Quiet)






Like I care what you think, jerk!

Looks like Jackass and the Desert scout android aren’t on the friendliest of terms. Oh well. Jackass has been alright to us so far. Let’s see what she wants, eh?



So this thing is called a “mackerel” and apparently eating it has a horrible effect on androids. I’d love to see what it does, so go ahead and chow down.


Music: Broken Heart (Vocal)






...OK. That’s a bit ominous. And the music isn’t helping. But, I mean... It’s just a mackerel. It’s just an oily fish. I mean they spoil quickly, but I’m assuming it was caught recently and not stuck Jackass’s pocket for a week. Also, I’m really hoping the humans didn’t program androids with the ability to get food poisoning...



Well... What’s the worst that can happen...?

It’s just a mackerel.



...Just a mackerel.



Whatever! Let’s do this thing. 2B ain’t gonna back down from no lousy fish. Glory to Manki—



”It was good, though,” the android thought as consciousness faded.
“Exquisite even. No wonder humans used to eat them...”






Just a mackerel...






Video: Episode 26 Highlight Reel






Machine Lifeform Concept Art – How would they even keep balance on two wheels? That’s ridiculous! You’d have toppled over robots all over the place...

The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 02:37 on May 15, 2017

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008
The whole "Shut up you don't know anything!" thing reminds me of this.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

AirborneNinja
Jul 27, 2009


e;fb

Jackass for best android.

darealkooky
Sep 15, 2011

You sayin' I like dubs?!?
all those axe guys dropping into the pit was pretty intense until I hit them with a double pod hammer. it did 95% of their health in one swing and knocked them all down for easy cleanup

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
You wouldn't even believe how many people keep coming into the Games thread just to complain about losing 2 hours of progress due to the Mackerel killing them.

After Jackass explicitly tells you it'll probably kill you.

By the way, 10 meters away from Jackass is a Save Station.

Oh, thanks to WiFi you don't even need to walk the 10 meters. Just open up the menu and hit A to quick save.



People still absolutely lose their poo poo about the game killing them via Mackerel.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
And now we learn why Jackass is named Jackass.

Red Minjo
Oct 20, 2010

Out of the houses, which is the most blue?

The answer might not be be obvious at first.

Gravy Boat 2k
So I had been reading your Drakengard 3 LP while playing NieR Automata myself, and I noticed something

quote:

Wait, fish won't do. Zero said she hates fish. I remember a time when I brought back some fish with blue scales and Zero didn't look too happy. I asked her if she didn't like them and she said, "I don't like mackerel..." while looking away. She said something about how they reminded her of something, but what could that be? Did she get sick from eating them before? Anyway, fish won't do. Eating something you don't like only makes you feel worse. That means I need to look somewhere besides the ocean.

I haven't exactly finished reading that LP so I don't know if there's anything more to it in that game, but did Yoko Taro have a traumatic experience with a mackerel?

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
I picked up the mackerel on my way to complete another, more pressing sidequest, so I chucked it in my inventory and forgot about it for an hour. By then it was getting late so I thought I'd save and go to bed, only to remember "That's right, Jackass wanted me to do something...I think I'm supposed to eat this fish? Alright, well, shouldn't take too long. I'll just chow down, then save, then sleep."

:suicide:

And that's the story of how I got my first ending in Nier: Automata.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
What does "Aji wo kutta" mean in English?

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
"Crunk ain't dead."

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Actually it allegedly means "I ate the fish," but also "I experienced the flavor" because Japanese puns are insane.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Junpei posted:

What does "Aji wo kutta" mean in English?

IAccording to the internet, it's a pun that means both "I ate a mackerel" and "I experienced a flavor".

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

Junpei posted:

What does "Aji wo kutta" mean in English?

I. Hear. A. Fish.

Edit: Not even Platinum can escape from the shadow of the Red DudesTM

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl
Given that Jackass's name is Jackass, I must assume that "Desert Scout Android", whom Jackass called jerk, is named Jerk.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Supremezero posted:

Given that Jackass's name is Jackass, I must assume that "Desert Scout Android", whom Jackass called jerk, is named Jerk.

"Hi I'm Jackass and Welcome to Jackass, it's Jackass o'clock and this Jerk over here WON'T FIX THE drat TIME PIECES! IT'S JACKASS SAVINGS TIME FOR HUMANITIES' SAKE!"

NHO
Jun 25, 2013

Meanwhile, I kinda missed this quest. By catching and eating the fish without talking to Jackass...

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

What the hell was even in that fish?

Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide

AradoBalanga posted:

What the hell was even in that fish?

Mackerel.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

AradoBalanga posted:

What the hell was even in that fish?

Mackerels are oily. Androids aren't really designed to eat.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

cant cook creole bream posted:

Mackerels are oily. Androids aren't really designed to eat.

They can eat, though. And they have taste receptors, 2B comments on how good the mackerel tasted as she dies.

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ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



cant cook creole bream posted:

Mackerels are oily. Androids aren't really designed to eat.

But they have taste sensors at the same time.

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