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silentbrains
Mar 18, 2009


Argh, sorry sorry, I was trying to make a joke but I see now that it was in bad taste, sorry.

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Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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What the hell, are people actually genuinely mad at that Pascal image posted earlier? The one that's a parody of that classic 80s Bill Gates picture where he's posing the same way? :psyduck:

Fedule
Mar 27, 2010


No one left uncured.
I got you.
We're on like three of four levels of ironic reference and I think it's hard for some people to keep track.

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

What the hell, are people actually genuinely mad at that Pascal image posted earlier? The one that's a parody of that classic 80s Bill Gates picture where he's posing the same way? :psyduck:

It's disgusting because it should be a parody of a borland pascal ad instead.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
I'm glad the androids were programmed to be prudishly uncomfortable talking about the mating habits of another species.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

What the hell, are people actually genuinely mad at that Pascal image posted earlier? The one that's a parody of that classic 80s Bill Gates picture where he's posing the same way? :psyduck:

I totally forgot that Bill Gates picture was even a thing.

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole

The Dark Id posted:

Wind is just a force caused by changes in temperature and atmospheric pressure and... Huh. That’s actually a hard question, now that I think about it. Kind of deep, really. I mean, where does the wind blow from? What do you think, 2B?
Don’t know. Don’t care.

It's like a freshman talking with a senior.

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.

EponymousMrYar posted:

Finally, love is coming back into the world.

Until some dick Black Mage casts Hadouken again.
:allears: I appreciate this reference.

Also this game continues to be great. Can't wait to see where this crazy train takes us.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

I am slightly disappointed that 9S doesn't get a fancy accessory of his own to wear. On the other hand, that quest was absolutely adorable, if only for the banter on the way back.


...the Sister Machines are going to be horribly murdered within an in-game hour or two, aren't they? :ohdear:

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

silentbrains posted:

Argh, sorry sorry, I was trying to make a joke but I see now that it was in bad taste, sorry.

If anybody is actually mad at that picture they need to get the hell out, it was fine.

Know Such Peace
Dec 30, 2008
Here is an hour-long presentation that Yoko Taro gave in 2014 about his writing process. He is wearing a weird human face instead of his normal Emil head. Moderate side-story spoilers from the original NieR are shown as scriptwriting examples.

I posted this in the main N:A thread, and I thought some people in this LP thread might appreciate it as well.

dalthorn
Apr 23, 2016

EponymousMrYar posted:

Finally, love is coming back into the world.

Until some dick Black Mage casts Hadouken again.

You rang?

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Morbi
Aug 7, 2013

CONTRABAND
I've been waiting for this update.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Morbi posted:

I've been waiting for this update.



Beautiful. :golfclap:

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Morbi posted:

I've been waiting for this update.



GOOD. loving. WORK.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Morbi posted:

I've been waiting for this update.



I hope those keep coming until the end of the game.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Morbi posted:

I've been waiting for this update.



9S is reading through a biology textbook in denial and despair

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

The Dark Id posted:

It’s good to see you in one piece. I was worried I’d lost a valuable customer. I hope that guy in the forest is okay...



This machine is another Weapons Trader. It provides the same upgrade services of the Resistance Camp’s Weapon Trader (weapons upgraded to Level 3 of 4.) The guy in the forest he mentions might actually be referring to a hidden thing later in the game. We don’t have anything we can upgrade at the moment. But his stock of weapons is different. Let’s take a peek...

Going back a bit, this is referring to a bit of dialog that you can get from the weapon shop owner if you talk to him before the attack on the city. He mentions that he learned to make weapons from this weird guy who lives in the forest and doesn't like to leave (it's also a hidden thing later in the game). In fact, everyone in the village has different dialogue before and after the earthquake.

It's really easy to miss because you generally go right from everyone having fun waving flags to the fetch quest, then right into the attack on the city. I think you can also talk to the guy who loses a torso before and he boasts about how tall he is :v:

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


Morbi posted:

I've been waiting for this update.



When a man machine and a woman machine and 2000 other machines love each other very much, they make an egg. Then that egg makes a naked machine that looks like an android. That's the miracle of life.

White Coke
May 29, 2015

The Dark Id posted:

Wow, it’s getting late! Let’s you get you home already!

Delete.

apocalypticCritic
Mar 19, 2014

Qrr posted:

When a man machine and a woman machine and 2000 other machines love each other very much, they make an egg. Then that egg makes a naked machine that looks like an android. That's the miracle of life.

And then that not-an-android android machine gets double penetrated through the chest by two goth androids, and makes a brother.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


The sister machines are amazing.
Yoko Taro has a gift for writing endearingly innocent characters.

Just like my big dumb dragon buddy Mikhail. :3:

dalthorn
Apr 23, 2016

Josuke Higashikata posted:

The sister machines are amazing.
Yoko Taro has a gift for writing endearingly innocent characters.

Just like my big dumb dragon buddy Mikhail. :3:

Only to make the inevitable all the more crushing. A love that crushes, like a mace.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
I missed the clips before and I thought that Pascal was voiced by a man up to this point.

Elkyrie
Mar 18, 2014

JcDent posted:

I missed the clips before and I thought that Pascal was voiced by a man up to this point.

Nope, and it causes a lot of silly confusion!
The game specifically calls Pascal a him though, so there's that.

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]
Episode XXXIV: Existence Precedes Essence



That last quest was really cute. Let’s move on to something far less pleasant. Hey, remember how I insisted everyone should wait until unlocking Fast Travel before doing most sidequests? Guess what? That’s almost entirely because of this garbage task.



To progress in this quest, we now need to track down Jean-Paul’s other two followers in the amusement park and desert regions. Still... not entirely sure why we’re doing this, other than 9S being curious and 2B being too apathetic about the whole affair to shoot him down just yet. Anyhow, the Amusement Park trek isn’t too bad. We could easily dash over there in 3-5 minutes tops.


Music: Amusement Park (Vocal)




The Jean-Paul follower we want is located in the central part of the main Amusement Park street on the opposite side of the gated area leading off to Pascal’s Village. This is apparent “Machine With a Dream”. Sure...



Hello. Do you know of a machine named Jean-Paul who lives in the village?
Master Jean-Paul is quite the mysterious gentleman. One might go so far as to call him suspicious. And yet he’s so alluring all the same!
Suspicious... and alluring?
Exactly. And I know just the gift for someone of that description! You’ll deliver it to him straightaway, won’t you? I won’t let that terrible girl in the desert find a way to interfere with our love!





OK... The Machine with a Dream gives us a hunk of glass as a gift for Jean-Paul. I’m sure this has a deep meaning. I was never much for philosophy study...


Music: Pascal




Regardless, back to Pascal’s Village we go to deliver the goods to Jean-Paul and see his reaction. Maybe this time it’ll be a bit less... dismissively assholish?



Moments are transitory. One cannot possess them. A moment passed is a moment lost; a symbol of idle, unrestrained apathy that—
Can you please just take this present already?
A gift? Let me see.
Here you go.
Ah, yes. Fascinating...
The machine who gave this to us said you were both “suspicious” and “alluring.”
It seems this so-called “gift” is nothing more than a piece of unadorned glass. Therefore, I can only surmise that—
Um, do you want us to bring a message back to the woman who gave this to you?
For a mere trifle? No.
Okay then.
Let’s go.


Music: Memories of Dust (Vocal)




Right, then. Another waste of our time. Perhaps the third one will be the charm in getting Jean-Paul to stop being a dick. The final admirer of JP is hanging is indeed hanging out in the desert. More specifically, the Desert Housing region. Hopefully they’ve cleaned up the corpse resurrecting weirdo and his Frankensteined son’s bodies from our previous sidequest in the area.





The machine we want is straight north of the Desert Housing Access Point, hanging around the corner with four other non-hostile desert machines.



The four generic machines all are apparently named “Wife Machine” and hiss about the androids being outsiders and freaks. Don’t ask me what this is all about. If it’s some kinda reference, it’s gone over my head. Let’s speak with the one with a unique outfit, the “Machine in Love” as it likes to be called.



Ack!
Huh?
You came here from Master Jean-Paul’s village, didn’t you? I can tell. I can smell him on you. *sniiiiiiiiff* Ahhhh!
Okay. That’s weird.
Jean-Paul is wonderful. He pursues new knowledge with a passion that is almost indescribable. I admire him as I do no other.
You have issues.
And YOU clearly lack a discerning eye. I bet men take advantage of you all the time.
Not exactly.
Ah, right. I found something that Master Jean-Paul is sure to be interested in. Please take it to him with all speed!





I suppose when there’s been a war waged between assorted robots for several times longer than recorded human history, fossilized machine parts would start becoming a thing. I somehow doubt Jean-Paul is going to be interested in its historical significance...



What?
Do you think this *BLEEP* fellow is being a little too... I dunno. Glorified?
That’s certainly one way to put it...



So I mentioned having to change Sartre’s name to Jean-Paul due his estate being extremely litigious. Turns out Square-Enix’s legal department didn’t catch that until after the English voice acting had already been recorded. So instead of getting 9S’s VA in to re-record a single line of dialog in a sidequest, they just bleeped it out. Which to me is funny, as I like to pretend 9S was just getting fed up and called Jean-Paul a fucker. Despite that, I’m sure there’s an angry rambling internet post somewhere screeching about censorship in localization and how dare they and also this is somehow women’s fault.

Anyway, back to that fuckhead Jean-Paul...


Music: Pascal




We’re here with a present for you.
A present? Of what sort?
It’s a fossil. One of your followers asked us to deliver it to you.
I see. I see.
She said you were “indescribably passionate” when it came to learning. Or something like that.
A mechanical fossil. No use at all.
Do you want us to tell her anything on your behalf, or...
I’ll not waste words on mere junk.
Junk!?
......



I suppose we should go tell his followers exactly what he thinks of them, huh? They’ll be waiting for some kind of reply.



Riiiiight... So here’s the second half of this quest: Go back to all three followers and speak to them a second time. Yep, definitely didn’t want to stab this prick through his top hat and into his brain box by the time I was done doing this quest before obtaining Fast Travel. No sir...

Oh well... At least one of the machines are still in the village. Let’s hit them up first...



Actually, he said it wasn’t worthy of a response.
I KNEW it! Isn’t he the greatest? I can’t get enough of him.
You don’t say...
......
I won’t let those other women beat me to the punch—I must write Master Jean-Paul a new letter at once!


Music: Amusement Park (Vocal)




Why do I get the feeling all three machine ladies are going to be thrilled to be getting rejected? Oh well, who am I to judge? Let’s just get this over with...



I must know what he said!
Well, he said it was a mere trifle.
Such insight! Such truth! He sees to the core of things in a way others cannot! I shall follow you for the rest of my days, Master Jean-Paul!
That’s a long time.
......
Oh, Master Jean-Paul... What must I do to claim your attentions...?


Music: Memories of Dust (Vocal)




Thank goodness for fast travel. You know how goddamn far it is from here to Pascal’s Village on foot...?



He called it a useless piece of junk.
Such cruelty! I’ve barely the words for it! When I think about his wanton sadism, it makes me... Oooooooh.
......
......
You seem quite friendly with Master Jean-Paul... See that you don’t steal him away from me!



No worries there, lady. After our follow-up chat with all three admires, Jean-Paul’s Melancholy updates. Seems we need to return to the jerk one final time...


Music: Pascal




This had better result in Jean-Paul tumbling down a comically long flight of stairs. Or at least 9S getting his top hat as an accessory.



Goddammit! Did we miss him topple down the stairs? No satisfaction in this quest. None. I don’t care if Jean-Paul vanishing from existence having accomplished nothing would be the most appropriate end to this story arc. :argh:



If you’re looking for Jean-Paul, you’re too late. He set out on “a journey.”
A journey, huh?
Yes. He said he needed to go find himself or... something. Oh, but he left a letter for you. Here.



A letter, huh? Funny, he doesn’t seem like the type. Let’s take a look at its text...



...Now this. This here checks out. You goddamn piece of poo poo machine. I hope one of those terrible electric worm machines rends you asunder on your journey.



Platinum Games is soft. If Cavia still were around that letter would have been the only quest reward for completing this nonsense. Not that I’m longing for those days of trolling bullshit, mind you.



I wonder if all his followers being female had something to do with his weirdness. Did the human sexes interact with each other like this? Who knows...
Who knows...



And that’s it! If you’re looking for some deeper meaning to this quest... naw dawg! There isn’t one. Yoko Taro or one of the other writers had to study Sartre’s work in college or something. They had a goddamn axe to grind about how they thought he was a huge dick and you should too. That’s it! That was the quest!

You know what...? Mission accomplished! gently caress Jean-Paul Sartre!






Video: Episode 34 CENSORSHIP!
(Edit: Pfft hahaha.)

The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 29, 2017

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

The end! No moral.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Sometimes junk is just junk and why do these people keep giving me junk I swear it's like they're not listening to me at all!

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Begemot posted:

The end! No moral.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Begemot posted:

The end! No moral.

Drakengard.txt

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
haha i never read the item description

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


EponymousMrYar posted:

Sometimes junk is just junk and why do these people keep giving me junk I swear it's like they're not listening to me at all!

I am a little confused about the hatred for Jean-Paul here. Three people send him stuff he doesn't want. He tells you he doesn't want it. Somehow, he's the villain in this. It's odd.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Qrr posted:

I am a little confused about the hatred for Jean-Paul here. Three people send him stuff he doesn't want. He tells you he doesn't want it. Somehow, he's the villain in this. It's odd.

It's not so much *what* he says as *how* he says it. Also, y'know, he could also have told you "Hey tell these people to stop sending me literal poo poo" but THAT'S BENEATH HIS MIGHTY INTELLECT, so he deserves it.

Alternatley, you may be the kind of person into the works of Jean-Paul Sartre.

apocalypticCritic
Mar 19, 2014

Begemot posted:

The end! No moral.

This has been "No Moral" theater.

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

Begemot posted:

The end! No moral.

I'm not emptyquoting this, no sir!

Cirina
Feb 15, 2013

Operation complete.
I'm pretty sure the final update in the quest log after finishing all that at least implies that Sartre got his dumb rear end killed in his journey, so we can at least take solace in that.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Qrr posted:

I am a little confused about the hatred for Jean-Paul here. Three people send him stuff he doesn't want. He tells you he doesn't want it. Somehow, he's the villain in this. It's odd.

Because he is a self-righteous rear end.

AndwhatIseeisme
Mar 30, 2010

Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
Fun Shoe
Rereading the Drakengard 3 thread, and I got to this paragraph in Mikhail's story (emphasis mine)

TheDarkId posted:

Wait, fish won't do. Zero said she hates fish. I remember a time when I brought back some fish with blue scales and Zero didn't look too happy. I asked her if she didn't like them and she said, "I don't like mackerel..." while looking away. She said something about how they reminded her of something, but what could that be? Did she get sick from eating them before? Anyway, fish won't do. Eating something you don't like only makes you feel worse. That means I need to look somewhere besides the ocean.

Between this and Ending K, I have to ask: Did Yoko Taro have some sort of food poisoning from a Mackerel at some point, or is this just one of those weird Japanese culture jokes that doesn't really translate?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
For this to be an accurate parallel, at least one of those lady machines would have had to also have been in love with Simone.

Sadly there's no proof of this as far as I could tell.

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White Coke
May 29, 2015

The Dark Id posted:

I won’t let those other women beat me to the punch—I must right Master Jean-Paul a new letter at once!

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