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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Cleretic posted:

I don't think she knows what 'punk' means, but has decided that she is one.

Therefore, it is evident that Michael, and other traditionalists who are clutching their pearls, have missed the point. Conservatism hasn’t consciously tried to be the new counter-culture. It’s just necessarily become that way, as a retaliation to the leftist cultural juggernaut. And much as traditionalists refuse to admit it, the rebellion is not restricted to the punk rock Right. It relates to all factions of conservatism. Including, dare I say it, Michael’s.

The vehement adherence to the image of the restrained, Christian, social conservative is actually the ultimate act of rebellion in the face of the degenerate, largely atheist Left. Michael, while I may be punk, you’re actually screamer heavy metal, because of your (very admirable) refusal to capitulate to the social libertarianism of modern times. The more tweed-suiting, Bible-reading, family-touting, and church-going the traditionalists do, the more counter-cultural they become. So much as I hate to admit it, Michael’s even more badass than I am.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

SLASHER HAWKE posted:

remember PiL

neither do i

Metal Box is one of the most important albums ever, and better than anything he ever did with the Sex Pistols. But yes John Lydon is a prick.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Anidav posted:

:getin::siren:
Queensland Opposition Leader Tim Nicholls has flatly denied claims of a secret deal between the Liberal National Party and One Nation.

The ABC's Four Corners program on Monday night aired what it said was a recording of Pauline Hanson's chief of staff James Ashby saying he'd struck a deal with Mr Nicholls' chief of staff for the two conservative parties to rein in attacks on each other.

"I have an agreement with the Liberal National Party, I've made a commitment to them ... that we will not go out there and slag them off for the sake of slagging them off," Mr Ashby said during the secretly recorded phone hook-up.

"But I reminded him that if he doesn't (honour) the agreement, we'll have plenty of ammunition on their candidates, which pulled his head in."

But Mr Nicholls took to Twitter after the program to label the claims as "absolute crap".

In a statement to AAP Mr Nicholls said his chief of staff had no dealings with Mr Ashby.

"My chief of staff has never met and doesn't even know James Ashby," he said.

"As I have said consistently the LNP will not be entering into a coalition with One Nation and there are no deals to be done."

WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE

Someone is a lying rear end in a top hat

Its Nicholls

it turns out Mr Ashby was referring to Mr Nicholls' senior policy advisor, Peter Coulson, rather than the LNP leader's chief of staff, Gerard Benedet.

In an extended excerpt of the recorded phone hook-up, Mr Ashby said: "I'm asking you not to go slagging off the Liberal National Party. Peter Coulson rang me this morning and reminded me of our agreement because he said to me we have been very kind to you and not slagged you off".

"But I also kindly reminded him if they choose to change that agreement we have plenty of ammunition on their candidates as well which pulled his head in a little bit," Mr Ashby said.

Mr Nicholls has repeatedly said there are "no deals to be done" with One Nation, however his office has declined to comment on the latest development.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

A Current Affair reporter Ben McCormack arrested over child porn offences

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/puzzled-hey-dad-star-denies-molesting-his-onscreen-daughter-20100324-qwte.html

This didn't take long to find

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Bogan King posted:

Time for a little homegrown


So we don't know why counter-terrorism units are involved in this at present hint: they're probably brown but a stabbing rampage does sound pretty terrifying. It may be even worse than living in Queanbeyan.

This is making me think of Menace II Society

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Bogan King posted:

I think Turnbull is finished. Kevin Rudd is making a play for returning to a leadership role.

https://twitter.com/MrKRudd/status/850210848010141696

Someone restring that bow.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

quote:

One of two teenage boys allegedly involved in a terrifying crime spree, including the fatal stabbing of a service station attendant, was on bail at the time having previously been charged with a violent sexual assault with a weapon.

...

Police have told Fairfax Media that the victim's blood was used to scrawl letters, possibly saying ISIS, on the window of the Caltex service station.

...

It's understood the 16-year-old had made concerning Facebook posts related to Islamic State in recent weeks.

However, he also has a history of committing petty offences around the Queanbeyan area and allegedly had issues with the drug ice.

Well this is going to be the story for the next few days.

Radicalised ice user rapists free on bail murder spree.

It's like an ACA madlibs.

Lid fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Apr 9, 2017

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Cartoon posted:

Rather than the children's lawyer and one Mum insisting it wasn't a terror event.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-09/queanbeyan-stabbing-accused-teens-denied-bail/8428978

So when Dutton is in PNG does he become a yam?

In all likelihood it was a drug rampage that took isnpiration from whatever poo poo they saw on the internet, in this case ISIS (the mother is also quoted as saying her son ranted at her that he was going to kill a nonbeliever).

In an obvious turn, the man they murdered was in fact a devout Muslim from Pakistan so good work there fuckheads.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/syria-hoax-sydney-university-at-centre-of-proassad-push-20170410-gvi5kq.html

quote:

One of Australia's most prestigious universities has become the centre of a movement that believes Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad has been framed by the West for last week's chemical weapons attack.

The University of Sydney is standing by a controversial senior lecturer, Tim Anderson, who has dismissed the sarin gas attack in the Idlib Province as a "hoax" and called Syria's six-year civil war a "fiction" perpetrated by the US "to destroy an independent nation".

Fairfax Media can reveal Dr Anderson is just one among a number of Australian academics who have formed a pro-Assad outfit called the Centre for Counter Hegemonic Studies, based in Sydney, to counter "censorship" by their universities.


The centre was formed "after concern that many Western academic bodies constrain, censor and marginalise counter-hegemonic or anti-imperial research and discussion, due to their close ties with government and corporate sponsors".

As well as Dr Anderson, its editorial board consists of Luis Angosto-Ferrandez, another Sydney University senior lecturer, Drew Cottle from Western Sydney University, Rodrigo Acuna at Macquarie University and a number of other academics, including two from East Timor.

Next week the Centre will hold a two-day conference at the University of Sydney, including a discussion of the Syrian conflict "from Hezbollah's perspective". The event is endorsed by the University of Sydney Union-funded Political Economy Society.

An enthusiastic supporter of the Syrian state and lifetime radical, Dr Anderson was convicted in 1990 over the 1978 Hilton Hotel bombing in Sydney, but acquitted the following year. He has travelled to Syria several times to meet with Assad.

After his most recent pro-Assad tweets were reported by the ABC's Media Watch and News Corp's Daily Telegraph, Dr Anderson and his supporters labelled the reports "fake news" and launched extraordinary personal attacks on a journalist involved.

Jay Tharappel, who tutors human rights in the same Sydney University department as Dr Anderson, called News Corp journalist Kylar Loussikian "traitorous scum who desperately wants a second Armenian genocide". Loussikian is of Armenian background.


Mr Tharappel defended the remarks when contacted by Fairfax Media on Tuesday. "If people like him wage war on our post-colonial homeland then I will wage war against them," he said. "They can choose to fight me and I will fight them ... with words."

The University of Sydney said it was aware the CCHS was due to host next week's conference on campus, and noted it did not provide financial or administrative support to the centre.

Dr Anderson told Fairfax Media the CCHS had "zero budget" and its mission was to create a "virtual library" of literature in support of sovereignty and self-determination.

A spokeswoman said the university did not endorse Dr Anderson's statements but was committed to free speech for academic staff in their area of expertise.

"This means tolerance of a wide range of views, even when the views expressed are unpopular or controversial," she said.

Dr Anderson has stated on Twitter that US presidents George Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump are the real "masterminds of Middle East terrorism". He stood by those comments on Tuesday. "Absolutely. The evidence is overwhelming," he said.

Dr Anderson has also written a book, The Dirty War on Syria, published by the Montreal-based Centre for Research on Globalisation. The centre has been dismissed by PolitiFact and the Associated Press as a website that promotes conspiracy theories.

Mr Trump last week authorised the US firing 59 Tomahawk missiles at the Syrian airfield from which he said the deadly chemical attack was launched. The Assad regime has denied responsibility, while ally Russia said the Syrian army hit rebel-owned chemicals on the ground.

I know you were done for the Hilton Tim, but come the gently caress on.

Also if you ever want a laugh check out the website for the Centre for Research on Globalisation. It is hilariously blatant in being funded by the Kremlin.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

MysticalMachineGun posted:

As soon as this guy came up on Media Watch it was clear that he's a lefty who also listens to Infowars. Is there a good reason he still has the position he has?

He was an oppressed lefty that was in all likelihood framed for the Hilton bombings so he gets freedom of speech points for being strung up by Roger Rogerson and his ilk. Apart from that no, no good reasons.

It's one of those frustrating situations where because someone was done by and has a story their flaws are outright defended or ignored. See also: the African American woman who was given a speech at the Womens March a few months back in Washington. Yes shes a campaigner for women and rave in the prison system. It is however not brought up the crime she was convicted of was the several day long torture, rape and murder of a man for money which [edit] was justified by another of the women [/edit] because "he was a homo".

http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/30/donna-hylton-background/

The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.

Edit: fixing, misremembered the Psychologists article - her veil slipped when she said she knew he was going to die anyway and thus it didnt matter what she did to him when she previously said she never knew he was to be killed. Doesn't make it any better though.

Lid fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Apr 11, 2017

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Somehow I missed this, as quoted above

quote:

Jay Tharappel, who tutors human rights in the same Sydney University department as Dr Anderson, called News Corp journalist Kylar Loussikian "traitorous scum who desperately wants a second Armenian genocide". Loussikian is of Armenian background.

Mr Tharappel defended the remarks when contacted by Fairfax Media on Tuesday. "If people like him wage war on our post-colonial homeland then I will wage war against them," he said. "They can choose to fight me and I will fight them ... with words."

the article includes this


Jay Tharappel, a protege of Tim Anderson at the University of Sydney, with a picture of Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

OK WHICH OF YOU LF GUYS IS THIS

Edit: https://www.facebook.com/Chacko.TJ/videos/10158452860610697/ WE WARNED YOU ABOUT SPLITS

Lid fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Apr 11, 2017

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Greens Splits, no longer just for NSW

quote:

A group of Victorian Greens members has emerged demanding change to the capitalist neoliberal economic model and criticising the party’s electoral focus on the inner city at the expense of the working class.

Grassroots Greens launched on Saturday with a statement of intent calling for more radical progressive economic policy as a means to broaden the party’s appeal beyond its current demographic.

The group calls for reform of party processes, particularly to favour young people, but is not affiliated with the anti-establishment Left Renewal group in New South Wales that caused a splash in December by promising to fight to end capitalism.

Grassroots Greens offers a direct critique of the party’s electoral strategy, accusing it of “chasing votes in wealthy, inner-city blue-ribbon electorates by being careful and playing small target politics” and calling on the party to appeal to the working and middle class in suburbs and regional areas “by being bold and radical but staunchly progressive”.

Under the federal leader, Richard Di Natale, the Greens boosted their primary vote by 1.6% at the 2016 election but fell short of winning several inner-Melbourne lower house seats that were targeted. The party has pursued a similar strategy at the state level, winning two lower house seats in the 2014 Victorian election.

“Grassroots Greens recognise that the current capitalist neoliberal economic model is giving rise to significantly gross levels of inequality … and is also a major cause for anthropogenic (human-induced) climate change; and that this system fundamentally needs to change,” its manifesto said.

The group said the party was “a grassroots, activist and anti-establishment party” and should stop positioning itself “as one of the major parties as has been the case in recent years”.

It said the party could reach its goal of a 20% primary vote within a decade by focusing on “radical but progressive economic policy, as well as on social justice policy – which tie into issues that affect the vast majority of the population”.

“We must not be afraid to put forward radical policy, out of fear of negative press.”

At the National Press Club in March, Di Natale said he was “confident” the party could reach the 20% target by having “unmediated conversations” with voters, who by and large liked the party’s policies when they found out about them.

Asked whether the Greens struggled to attract working class support, Di Natale said the party attracted support “from a range of areas … across the board” and many workers said they wanted to work fewer hours, in reference to his proposal of a four-day work week.

Grassroots Greens said the Greens was “the only party that truly represents young people under the age of 30” and it would boost their place in the party by supporting “any young Green seeking preselection”.

But the groups said electing candidates to parliament “should never be the end goal” of the party, as they should be “an extension in the legislature of the street level activism of our party”.

All Victorian Greens members are eligible to join Grassroots Greens, but representatives elected to public office must renounce their membership.

The fledgling group has just 37 likes and 50 follows on Facebook so far, but it nevertheless represents a further splintering of the progressive party that claims not to have factions.

Di Natale has publicly criticised the Left Renewal group labelling its ambition to overthrow capitalism “ridiculous” and warning that the party has never had and should not start to create formal factions.

Federal senator Lee Rhiannon and NSW upper house member David Shoebridge have both defended Left Renewal, arguing that it is not inconsistent with Greens’ principles to call for the end of capitalism and it has a right to exist as there were “rightwing” groupings in the party.

A spokeswoman for Di Natale referred Guardian Australia’s inquiry about the Grassroots Greens to the Victorian party.

The convenor of the Victorian Greens, Willisa Hogarth, said the party “doesn’t commentate on anonymous Facebook groups”.

“Within the Victorian Greens there are multiple working groups where members can contribute collaboratively to the running of the party.

“We welcome all members to get involved and provide feedback through the many avenues, but at this point there haven’t been any approaches.”

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/documentary-cultivating-murder-tells-story-behind-brutal-political-killing-20170412-gvjsuk.html

quote:

It was a brutal killing. Almost three years ago, 79-year-old farmer Ian Turnbull shot dead state environment officer Glen Turner on a country road near Moree in north-western NSW.

Turner and colleague Robert Strange had pulled over to take photos of piles of fallen trees on fire in a field owned by Turnbull, whose family had been previously prosecuted for illegal land clearing.

When the farmer arrived in his ute with a rifle, he shot Turner in the chin without warning. As the 51-year-old went down then staggered back to his feet, Turnbull shot him again in the shoulder.


For more than 20 minutes, Turnbull menaced Turner and Strange as they crouched behind their vehicle, setting off an emergency beacon and ringing 000 to get help.

When the environment officer ran for cover in nearby trees, Turnbull shot him in the back and left him to die.

Convicted of murder and sentenced to a maximum 35 years in jail, the patriarch of a family of grain farmers whose land holdings cover more than 4000 hectares died in custody at the age of 82 last month.

As soon as the murder hit the headlines, it fascinated film-maker Gregory Miller, whose credits include environmentally themed documentaries on climate change (Cool School Antarctica) and China (New Beijing: Reinventing A City).

"I went up to Moree and did research," Miller says. "And as soon as I got up there, it was like touching a raw nerve.

"Everyone was totally on edge. Everyone you spoke to had an opinion. Even though the murder took place 40 kilometres outside Moree, in a little town called Croppa Creek, everyone was connected."

Miller has now finished the documentary Cultivating Murder, which looks at the consequences of the killing and the tensions between farmers and environmentalists over land clearing for large-scale cropping. It starts a series of screenings around the country on April 20. 

"We thought we were making a film about a poor farmer who had been driven to the edge but as things went on it became very clear that wasn't the case," Miller says. "The evidence showed he was not a poor farmer to start off with; he was rich.

"He wasn't unduly under financial stress as a result of the Office of Environment and Heritage investigating him. And the court decided that he wasn't suffering from any mental illness.

"It was a businessman trying to make a point – a public statement for a number of powerful business interests in the area, of which his family was one, that they were not to be pushed around.

"They had a sense of entitlement about their business operations. They thought 'I bought this land freehold and people shouldn't be coming and telling me how I should be running it'."


Miller goes as far as describing Turner's death as a political murder.

"It was a strike at the government, a bold statement, and also a personal vendetta," he says.

Cultivating Murder shows Turner's partner, Alison McKenzie, daughter Alexandra, son Jack and sister Fran Pearce struggling to deal with his death.

"Some days are just quite normal," McKenzie says of life with her children. "Other days they'll get very, very sad. It could be that they've got something on at school or just something that they want to show their dad. All I can do is hug them and tell them that their dad would be proud of them."

She agreed to be in the documentary because "she doesn't want Glen's memory to be lost", Miller says. "She believes the circumstances around the murder are still not fully known. For her, it was an assassination."

The film also shows the environmental damage that land-clearing has caused in the area, including the destruction of koala habitats.

"Koalas all over the east coast of Australia are under massive threat," Miller says. "It's bizarre that we're not just killing off the Great Barrier Reef, we're killing off our iconic native animals."

A phone conversation by Turnbull that was recorded from prison gives his perspective. "How are we going with the bloody thing as far as fighting these bastards and paying the bloody fines and whatnot?," he says to a family member. "The main thing is to get the bloody EP and H off our bloody back so the boys can go ahead and farm."

Outside the court, the film shows Turnbull's son Grant calling for changes to the Native Vegetation Act, which covered land clearing in the state at the time of the murder.

"The politicians need to listen," he says. "It's not just my father. It's many people out in rural NSW that are extremely frustrated ... with the way it's administered and the act itself." 

While it is not mentioned in the documentary, a judge in the Land and Environment Court ordered Grant Turnbull to carry out repairs worth $4.5 million last year for illegally clearing 508 hectares of land. 

Cultivating Murder raises questions about the impact from the state government's review of its environmental legislation, with the Native Vegetation Act replaced by the Biodiversity Conservation Act, following a push by the Nationals and the Shooters and Fishers Party for greater land-owner rights to clear land. 

"There's a small group of land developers and wealthy farmers in the area of which Turnbull was one," Miller says. "They pushed the agenda to get the law changed because it doesn't suit their business model to preserve the environment in any way. It suits their business model to have complete carte blanche."

Miller believes the threat to the rural environment has increased because the new legislation was rushed and badly written. 

"Similar acts in Queensland have led to a great increase in clearing and in NSW we're starting to hear of reports but it's not being investigated," he says.

"There's very little land left out there to maintain species, to maintain bio-diversity of any sort."

As he made Cultivating Murder, Miller sat in the court most days during the eight-week trial. 

He believes the murder was triggered when Turnbull was caught red-handed clearing protected land even while being investigated. 

"The photographs show that," he says. "They show piles of timber on fire. [Turnbull] decided that this was the moment he was going to act.

"Two years earlier, he had threatened to shoot Glen. He said 'what can they do to me? I'm an old man. If I do it, I'll be out on bail, it'll take a long time for the court case, I'll probably be dead by then.'

"So he'd worked it out. He was up for it."


Miller hopes the documentary will contribute to tougher legislation to restrict land clearing around the country.

"I think that's what Glen would have liked," he says. "The film is very much dedicated to Glen. He didn't just work for the Office of the Environment and Heritage, he was very concerned about the environment.

"He owned a beautiful property outside Tamworth and he planted a thousand trees on it. He believed in what he was doing."

Cultivating Murder's national screenings include Sydney's Chauvel cinema on April 20 and Melbourne's Australian Centre for the Moving Image on May 13.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
In a ramshackle inner Sydney boarding house, surrounded by his collection of Adolf Hitler dolls, a 48-year-old unemployed neo-Nazi plies his trade as one of Australia's most aggressive online trolls.

In a ramshackle inner Sydney boarding house, surrounded by his collection of Adolf Hitler dolls, a 48-year-old unemployed neo-Nazi plies his trade as one of Australia's most aggressive online trolls.

Nathan Sykes - a former journalist and bankrupt - has spent much of the past few years under various pseudonyms harassing and baiting left-wingers and Muslim activists through social media, and writing anti-Semitic articles on neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer.

"When do you envisage and [sic] end to the Jew privilege that vilifies White males on a daily basis?" he wrote in a Twitter post in January last year.

Sykes is also a member of the far-right political party Australia First and a devotee of its shadowy leader, convicted fraudster Jim Saleam.

But what makes Nathaniel Jacob Sassoon Sykes particularly unusual is that, despite his neo-Nazi persona, he himself is a Jew.



http://www.smh.com.au/national/investigations/revealing-the-secrets-of-one-of-australias-worst-online-trolls-20170413-gvklv8.html

Lid fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Apr 16, 2017

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Umm, a notorious and nasty troll engages in some next level poo poo and we're somehow supposed to be shocked?

Have you seen that hat?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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An eye for an eye
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freebooter posted:

I honestly can't tell if Tone genuinely believes steering the Liberal Party back towards his policies would help them win the election, or if he's just stirring the pot out of spite.

Yes.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

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And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Blast from the Past

Bike Chat

quote:

The son of an 85-year-old man, who was killed on a St Kilda pedestrian crossing this week when hit by a cyclist, is calling for compulsory registration of bicycles and licensing for cyclists.

Alastair Mackenzie said yesterday: "How many innocent people need to die before these laws catch up?"

His father, Norman Mackenzie, had been walking his blue Staffordshire bull terrier puppy along Jacka Boulevard, as he did twice a day every day, when he was hit by the cyclist at the crossing at 5.30pm on Tuesday, police believe.

Mr MacKenzie was taken to hospital but later died of serious head injuries. The 30-year-old cyclist, a Port Melbourne man, was taken to hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

A doctor at the scene tended to Mr Mackenzie immediately after he was hit, his son said. He is hoping the doctor can come forward or contact police to assist with the investigation.

Norman Mackenzie, a father of two, was "extremely vigilant when it comes to crossing roads", his son said. He was working to teach his pup traffic awareness, making her sit and wait for the light to go green. When he was hit, his pockets were full of dog treats, his son said.

"He was a gentle, generous loving and caring man that tried to help everyone he met," Alastair said. "He had strong beliefs and made a lot of effort to improve the experience people had in life and wanted to make the world a better place."

He said he did not want his father's death to be in vain. He wants bicycles to be registered and insured, with a licence system introduced to ensure that cyclists can prove they know the road rules.

Victoria's Bicycle Network is strongly opposed to cyclist registration, calling the idea "absurd".

"There is no credible support for bicycle registration anywhere in the world," the lobby group's website says.

"Proposed schemes would simply waste money, not improve road safety and discourage people from bike riding."

Cycle trails along the beaches of Port Phillip are very popular with riders, but come with a dangerous reputation.

In 2015, a young woman was left with a fractured skull and two others were hospitalised after a crash at Beach Road, Mentone, during the notorious "hell ride".

In 2006, 77-year-old James Gould was struck and killed by a cyclist on Beach Road in Mentone.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Was going to post this too.

Ian Sinkins, a British electrical engineer in Australia on a temporary skilled class 457 visa, has a serious beef with Australia’s proposed new citizenship requirements.

The changes, announced by the Turnbull government on Thursday, would require aspiring citizens to sit an English-language test, prove a commitment to Australian values and live in the country for four years as a permanent resident, instead of one.

“We’re being tarred with the same brush … [the plan] doesn’t differentiate where people have come from,” Sinkins told Guardian Australia. “We’re from a Christian background, we speak English, and there’s the shared heritage between Australia and England. And yet we have to take an English-language test, to prove certain things that are kind of obvious. It’s unsettling.”

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
You can take a position on something, and support peoples protests of it, but also have the knowledge of that sometimes people on your side are assholes and actively both hurting the cause and the visceral defending of which paints the entire concept with the same brush. Party of protest not party of government.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Somehow Anzac Day has turned some posters here into 16 year olds on twitter.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

hooman posted:

I have some bad news for you about posting on literally every other day as well.

Doesn't usually last this long and with an equal divide of others trying to take the high ground via mealy mouthed defences and others via mealy mouthed offences. Its too much like babbys first uni politics meeting.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Starshark posted:

I eagerly await your blazing insight. Any idiot can sit on the sideline and say both sides are bad.

Who said i said both sides are bad? Most of all you are being a tremendous rear end in a top hat.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Lets unequivocate - you are an rear end in a top hat and it comes through no matter what political position you hold. No one is on your side not because you might be right bit because you are such a toxic individual that shows nothing approaching empathy people are afraid of full hearted defending of the man yelling at dawn service even if they agree with you because no one wants to be seen as your friend. Conversely the other side dont want to be tarred as jingoistic war sympathisers if they show the slightest romanticism to what ANZAC was pre Howard so they are tempering their criticism as they're afraid of being labelled pearl clutchers while JPB has the guts to know he is secure in his politics enough to understand that his actions mean having to deal with a shitstain like you whose political purity is reliant entirely on whatever is the most x-treme.

gently caress off, shut up, go away, kill yourself in no particular order.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Starshark posted:

You have such a laughable misunderstanding of what I'm saying that I'm beginning to wonder if English is your first language or if you're struggling with a TBI. Put the rage away and try to look at things in a slightly broader context before you stroke out.

I too take the position of War is Bad while simultaneously stating people who can tell the difference between a political position and being a dickhead can only be from Literal Brain Injuries.

Milky Moor posted:

You'll be waiting a while.

:ironicat:

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

JBP posted:

I can't find this anywhere. I want to read his statement regarding his resignation only being of a technical nature.

Not on resignation but hes done.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/26/one-nation-candidate-mark-ellis-allegedly-threatened-to-kill-employee

A One Nation candidate for Queenslandparliament allegedly threatened to kill an employee of his security firm in an angry diatribe in which he warned: “I know where you live.”

The alleged death threat appears in private messages sent last July from the personal Facebook account of Mark Ellis, a former police officer who is running in the seat of Macalister.

Guardian Australia has also obtained a picture in which the same Facebook account was tagged with what appears to be Ellis performing a Nazi salute before a large swastika mown into a backyard lawn in 2011.

The July 30 exchange escalates after Kalaitzidis says “If you come to my house after leaving that voicemail. I’ll call the cops”, later urging Ellis to “just leave it be”.

Ellis’s account eventually replies: “gently caress you. I’m gonna kill you. gently caress you. You’re a oval office … I’m gonna gently caress you up oval office.”

It then says: “You’re dead to me. I know where you live … Call the cops. I don’t care … See you.”



loving useless scumfuck

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
A One Nation candidate in Queensland has resigned after revelations he allegedly threatened to kill an employee of his security firm in an angry diatribe in which he warned: “I know where you live.”

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
New OP please.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Hills Hoist Lynching

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.domain.com.au/news/home-buyers-who-could-never-afford-to-buy-get-into-market-one-brick-at-a-time-20170427-gvseiu

This week in domain continuing to pretend there isnt a property crisis

Time shares and a clusterfuck of property claimants with hints of ponzi

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...205085efed67278

2008 Article. Never forget.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
The Turnbull government will slash university funding by hundreds of millions of dollars in the May budget while hiking student fees and requiring graduates to pay back their loans faster.

The government will justify the cuts by pointing to a major new report which found universities receive adequate funding for most courses they teach and that their revenues are growing faster than costs.

Despite pleas from universities that they cannot absorb any more cuts, Fairfax Media understands they will be hit with a new efficiency dividend of between 2 and 3 per cent to be phased in over several years.


Education Minister Simon Birmingham, who will address university and business leaders on Monday night, is expected to release the government's higher education reform package in coming days.

The pain will be shared between universities and students, who will see a rise in course fees and a lowering of the HECS repayment threshold from the current $52,000. It is understood the fee increases will be significantly lower than a speculated 25 per cent hike.

A 3.25 per cent efficiency dividend, originally proposed by Labor, would reduce university funding by approximately $900 million over four years.



The government will soften the blow by increasing funding for dentistry and veterinary science courses, which are expensive to teach. It will also finally abandon plans, introduced in the 2014 budget, to reduce university course funding by 20 per cent.

Senator Birmingham will on Monday release a new report, commissioned by the government, that provides the most detailed picture ever compiled of the cost of delivering university degrees.

The Deloitte Access Economics study found universities receive sufficient revenue – through government funding and student fees – to cover the cost of teaching most degrees.

For example, the average annual cost of providing an engineering degree was $22,514 per student in 2015 compared to total funding of $26,623 per student.

A clinical psychology degree cost universities an average of $13,528 a year to deliver while attracting $18,711 in total funding.

Two clear exceptions are dentistry and veterinary science, which the study found to be significantly underfunded.


Fairfax Media understands the government will provide top-up funding for these subjects in the budget through new loadings.

The Deloitte report, based on data from 17 universities, shows the average cost of delivery for universities increased by 9.5 per cent from 2010 to 2015 while revenue grew by 15 per cent.

"This independent analysis speaks for itself," Senator Birmingham said.

"Funding for our universities is at record levels, but it has grown above and beyond the costs of their operations.

"Universities have a vital role to play in Australia but many mums and dads are feeling the pinch of tighter budgets at home and want to know their tax dollars are being used effectively and efficiently."

Senator Birmingham said he would not pre-empt the announcement of his reform package but added: "In the context of a tight national budget, the Turnbull government is focused on getting the best return for every taxpayer dollar invested."

The Deloitte report notes that universities also use their teaching revenue to cross-subsidise research and other activities.

Universities Australia last week released a report showing universities and students have contributed $4 billion to reduce the deficit since 2011 and that further cuts could put some universities in a precarious position.

"Universities and their students have already done more than their fair share of budget repair," chief executive Belinda Robinson said.

"In this context, it is difficult to justify further cuts that would affect student affordability and put at risk the quality of education and research on which Australia's prosperity depends."

Universities recorded an average profit margin of 5.3 per cent in 2015, with the University of Sydney and University of Melbourne recording strong surpluses of $157 million and $141 million respectively.

Vice-chancellor salaries have also soared over recent years, with nine vice-chancellors receiving annual pay packets over $1 million.

The government will also on Monday release an implementation plan on measures to increase the transparency of university admissions.

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