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Pens signed Ruhwedel for 2 years at 650k per year. I'm fine with that. He's acceptable as a 7th.
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Verviticus posted:that seems like a terrible way to evaluate a contract. what if that player scored 2500 goals a year but could only play 8%? In this instance I do recommend giving the player the maximum salary.
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https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/878036331477127168 This doesn't solve the problem of the Coach's Challenge, though. e: https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/878038657256390656 I don't think the Fancy Cats are fancy any more. Kilza fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Give the team a minor penalty for Delay of Game, just like you would if you tried to challenge the curve of a stick and failed.
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Somewhat related. The Ducks have traded Dan O'Halloran to the Sharks for Kelly Sutherland. Ottawa will probably be offer sheeting Tim Peel.
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Sorry, just saw that Eberle trade and Cheecher needs to have a cross stitch that says "lord forgive me I'm back on my bullshit" next to his phone.
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/878036331477127168 the fanciest cat jack capuano has ever encountered is the sabretooth tiger he killed and whose pelt he wears as a garment
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Capuano looks like he can be found just off screen in Yankeesfan.gif.
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Levitate posted:Seems more a Mets fan The flopsweat and despair imparts that.
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character is worth .020 sv% per year, dontchaknow e: Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/878036331477127168 yes, it will be great when the NHL fucks up a coach's challenge and then gives a penalty to the team they just screwed. I see no problems with this scenario at all.
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Infidel Castro posted:Considering McDavid still has one year of his ELC on top of his RFA years, what's the rush to sign him to a max contact? The Cap ceiling isn't really moving much and worst case you just match any offer sheet (lol) if he signs one. 1. Because he will get a max money/max years offer sheet from every single team that has enough cap space to give him one, which leads us to 2. Because it's the only way in hell the Oilers might possibly convince him to stay in Edmonton a minute longer than he absolutely has to
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Jordan7hm posted:character is worth .020 sv% per year, dontchaknow I've got one - rather than a penalty, just move the puck to the defensive zone. Bam. Less stupid than a penalty.
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The compensation argument is a really interesting one. I think the league is generally getting better at pricing marginal / depth players where they should be on the scale, but I'd argue that the star players should be taking a lot more than they are now on average. I'm pretty sure if you match what elite players get now (8.0-10 million?) and compare it to what elite players were getting back when the salary cap was first introduced and was sitting at 39 million or whatever, the salaries for the star players have lagged by a huge amount relative to the growth of the pool. The most recent analysis I've read argued that teams that have more of their talent focused in 2 or 3 "star" players do better in the standings and the playoffs than teams where the talent is more evenly distributed throughout. Of course you can probably argue about how accurate those measurements of talent were, but I can see a very strong argument from the numbers for sacrificing depth to sign as many star players as possible at whatever that market rate is.
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Starsfan posted:The compensation argument is a really interesting one. I think the league is generally getting better at pricing marginal / depth players where they should be on the scale, but I'd argue that the star players should be taking a lot more than they are now on average. I'm pretty sure if you match what elite players get now (8.0-10 million?) and compare it to what elite players were getting back when the salary cap was first introduced and was sitting at 39 million or whatever, the salaries for the star players have lagged by a huge amount relative to the growth of the pool. Exactly so gently caress uh Jordan Eberle
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Eric the Mauve posted:1. Because he will get a max money/max years offer sheet from every single team that has enough cap space to give him one, which leads us to 1. There is no chance a team in this NHL is going to offer McDavid max money on an RFA deal. And they can just match if that happens anywya. 2. They have free agency rights over McD for another 4 years. They should take advantage of that. Pre-emptively signing him to a max deal because they're afraid someone will sign him to a max deal is dumb. Starsfan posted:The compensation argument is a really interesting one. I think the league is generally getting better at pricing marginal / depth players where they should be on the scale, but I'd argue that the star players should be taking a lot more than they are now on average. I'm pretty sure if you match what elite players get now (8.0-10 million?) and compare it to what elite players were getting back when the salary cap was first introduced and was sitting at 39 million or whatever, the salaries for the star players have lagged by a huge amount relative to the growth of the pool. Can you link to this? I'd be curious to see this. The example I can think of where teams did this were Tampa, Pittsburgh, and Chicago. Tampa had to blow it up. Pittsburgh was stuck for years until they finally broke through because of a banner crop of rookies. Chicago is hosed for cap now.
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Jordan7hm posted:
Honestly I think it was work by Robert Vollman, but I can't be sure on that point. I'll see if I remember better because nothing much is coming up on the search. I think if a team was going to have any success going all in on say 4 star players at average 9 to 10 million dollars each, they would have to be really succesfull at identifying excellent value contracts for veterans, European players, and AHL / NHL tweener types. there's definitely a lot of value to be had there though. I'd say you can add Dallas to the list of teams that are "all in" on star talent in a couple years when they sign Seguin to a huge deal to go with Benn, and Bishop is still on the payroll.
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https://twitter.com/CurtisPashelka/status/877984432728059905 has this been done before? sounds fun
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hifi posted:https://twitter.com/CurtisPashelka/status/877984432728059905 Isn't this just Traverse City west?
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Matt Zerella posted:Isn't this just Traverse City west? the penguins did a rookie tournament last year with ottawa, montreal, and toronto i think? it seems to be a pretty common thing these days. i just remember it because by the time they roll around i'm utterly desperate for hockey again and end up watching it
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Pornographic Memory posted:the penguins did a rookie tournament last year with ottawa, montreal, and toronto i think? it seems to be a pretty common thing these days. i just remember it because by the time they roll around i'm utterly desperate for hockey again and end up watching it Yep, same.
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The NMC is just a rumor, not reported by any reliable sources (McKenzie, Friedman, etc). As for other news, looks like Tippett's time is finally up: https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/878078378993217536
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Old Tyme Hockey folks aren't happy with Tippett's firing. Has he really accomplished anything noteworthy? Seems like just another dude, and those types of coaches get fired rather routinely.
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Mind_Taker posted:Old Tyme Hockey folks aren't happy with Tippett's firing. Has he really accomplished anything noteworthy? Seems like just another dude, and those types of coaches get fired rather routinely. Not really. He was the coach of the Coyotes for 8 seasons, and after getting them to the conference finals in 2012 they've missed the playoffs the last 5 years, including finishing 2nd last in 2015. It's a miracle he's lasted this long. e: I will say that the timing of this news, days after it was announced Doan wouldn't be back is probably what's making people upset more than anything else. Kilza fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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well, uh, there's the end of 2 coyotes eras already. i think tippett has a massive buyout so this is going to be interesting they held on for a while despite being real bad but his claim to fame was more like, coaching up derek morris and boyd gordon instead of figuring out how to get duclair to put the puck in the net 20+ times a season. calling him old time is kind of wrong, he's said the right things all the way back to 2012: https://www.defendingbigd.com/2012/4/13/2941077/dave-tippett-defense-mark-fistric-matt-niskanen hitchcock or sutter without the roster is probably more accurate
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Kilza posted:The NMC is just a rumor, not reported by any reliable sources (McKenzie, Friedman, etc). Yeah you're right, it got retweeted into my timeline by someone.
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Kilza posted:Not really. He was the coach of the Coyotes for 8 seasons, and after getting them to the conference finals in 2012 they've missed the playoffs the last 5 years, including finishing 2nd last in 2015. It's a miracle he's lasted this long. Yeah, because so many other coaches would've had success with that roster.
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grack posted:Yeah, because so many other coaches would've had success with that roster. I get that the roster was terrible but it's not like he overachieved with the roster either. He seems like a very replaceable coach.
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One of the amateur CBJ bloggers pointed out that there's a CBJ/Sabres game on a Wednesday night which starts at 8pm, implying it could be an NBCSN game. Wednesday Night Riva  ry.
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the coyotes' being better than buffalo in 2014 is the caps' getting to the ecf
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bad luck https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/878099458235420672
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CBJSprague24 posted:One of the amateur CBJ bloggers pointed out that there's a CBJ/Sabres game on a Wednesday night which starts at 8pm, implying it could be an NBCSN game. NBCSN just needs to show NHL games every night of the week. Then every game can be a rivalry.
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fits posted:yotes should hire todd nelson, imo Too bad Gretzky is busy with the Oilers, he could take another try at the helm.
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