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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I've seen a lot of gory movies and poo poo but I don't think I've ever been as disturbed by a scene like I was whenit showed every single little brutal detail of Hannah killing herself/ I binged through the series in 2 days and that is still sitting with me.

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

precision posted:

Yeah the last two episodes are very hard to watch. I'm still processing it. I will agree that I don't think Hannah was meant to be entirely sympathetic or vindicated.

The half hour behind the scenes special outright says that Hannah did some things wrong.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Thinking on it for a bit I will acquiesce that Hannah's rape was unnecessary and was in some ways a disservice to the overall story. It's such a specifically awful and traumatic event that it overshadows all of the other more subtle events the build her up to be prone to suicide. If it were up to me the rape wouldn't have happened. I think it would have been better if the final 'little' thing that finally tipped her over the edge was based around her families financial problems. Perhaps it became clear that they are totally hosed financially and Hannah shoulders the blame of having a massive college bill hanging over and that, combined with all of the other things that happened to and around her, finally makes he decide that the world would be better off without her in it. It would in effect make her own family the 12th Reason Why instead of Bryce which I feel would have been more interesting. And then the final plea for help with the counselor remains the 13th but since the rape isn't a thing it makes the guy look like less of a total colossal moron.

So yeah, that's my gripe with the end of the series I guess. Also Tyler is going to shoot up the school and kill everyone so none of this is going to matter in the end.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Junkfist posted:

Season 2 opener, they finally got that headstone:



oh lord I almost just burst a gut laughing.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I really liked Hannah's mom's reaction to when she sees Hannah dead in the tub. I expected some cliched horror movie shriek but instead her mind basically breaks and goes into denial.

Fuuuuck that whole scene is really sitting with me still a day later. It's just so loving sad.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Hannah is going to be indirectly responsible for pushing Tyler over the edge to shoot up the school. Sure he was probably collecting guns and ammo already but the coordinated rock throwing campaign and Clay sending out his nude pic probably sealed the deal. She's going to get everyone killed. WHOOPS

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
The whole series reminded me about the general atmosphere of It Follows. In a good way.

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
13 Reasons Why I Shot Up the School

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