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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

As someone who actually was directly involved in a similar situation in my formative years I find some of the complaints levied at this show absolutely ridiculous. People can and will fall into depression for a myriad of reason's (seriously what is it with the no true scotsman bullshit) and yes popular people can and will get bullied too. Popularity is a precarious thing in any kind of school setting and not every bullying victim is a picturesque ugly duckling with no social life. Depression can make people internalize their despair, making it invisible to those around them while also putting them in the mindset that their problems are insignificant, irrational or unimportant to the people around them. I'm not even going to get into the distinction between depression and clinical depression and why the fact that a few of you are conflating the two is pissing me off.

The show was good. It managed to tackle one of the most cliche-ridden and repeated teenage-story premises of all time and actually go somewhere meaningful and interesting with it.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Baudolino posted:

My only complain is that they made Clay too much of a saint. His guilt was completely irrational.

Survivor's guilt among friends and family is actually very common in cases of suicide. It's that lingering feeling that you should have seen the signs or that you could have done something different that triggers it.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Escobarbarian posted:

rock climbing thing in ep 8 is some dumb-rear end bullshit

Oh super

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Escobarbarian posted:

Except for every single piece of media set during teenage years/in high school ever, that is.

Both are homages to some degree so I guess he's really just not that familiar with the genre.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Despera posted:

This the bullshit revenge porn I hear it is?

What?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

No. I would say the article is very off-base and the author seems to have an ax to grind.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

It's not like there's an actual argument to be had when you haven't actually watched through the show. You quite literally don't know what you're talking about.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Mulva posted:

e: And also nobody gets any comeuppance for how they treated her, not really.

That would retroactively justify her suicide and be really bad storytelling at the same time.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Medullah posted:

Ugh they're giving the show a second season. This really needed to be a one season mini series.

13 Reasons Why A Show Didn't Need A Sequel

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