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Despera
Jun 6, 2011
This the bullshit revenge porn I hear it is?

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Despera
Jun 6, 2011

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/apr/26/netflix-13-reasons-why-suicide

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

MiddleOne posted:

No. I would say the article is very off-base and the author seems to have an ax to grind.

Guess ill watch it. If its nothing more than "you guys were mean to me going to go kill myself" im going to be pissed.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Despera posted:

Guess ill watch it. If its nothing more than "you guys were mean to me going to go kill myself" im going to be pissed.

Nope exactly what I thought it was and what that gaurdian article said. Literally revenge porn for the people who hurt her. Alas all the external pressure in the world cannot make someone commit suicide. All the mean people in high school cannot force someone to murder herself. Trying to make suicide, homicide is a really lovely thing to do. She chose an option and wants to make people suffer for her choice..

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Jack Gladney posted:

You watched 12 episodes in two hours?

Monologue from the second episode about how everyone is the blame for her killing herself is enough.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
I'm guessing by episode 12 she doesnt have a roundabout and decides making people feel bad because of her decisions is a stupid thing to do . It would be one thing if the whole town was complicit in her murder but you can't by definition force someone to commit suicide.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

precision posted:

Yeah that's not really how the show goes.

At 1:44 in episode 2 she says "you know exactly what you did" referencing her suicide then I paraphrase "now I'm dead you jerks".

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Jack Gladney posted:

Just because she dies doesn't mean it's not a stupid thing to do. Your perspective may differ, but I think it does a good job of presenting the distorted thinking of a depressed person along with the confusion experienced by people unable to fully articulate the strong emotions they're feeling. Nor does every character respond in the same way to any of the bad things that happen to the suicidal character, like how there are multiple rapes and many forms of terrible abuse, but many different responses by individual characters--I don't think her suicide is presented as inevitable or justifiable, or even completely explicable at all. It's a very sad thing and the narrative dramatizes how much suffering it causes to others, like the parents, who will be miserable and plagued with impossible questions for the rest of their lives.

Suicide is presented as both an acceptable option and a means of petty revenge. Which is odd because most people present depression as rage turned inward and most suicide notes blame the suicidee.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
If you want to argue this show doesn't present suicide as an acceptable option when the shows name is 13 reasons I committed suicide you might have a tough sell.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011


Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Honestly making me watch 10 more hours of a show that spent 10 seconds explaining how the "cute guy at the movies that wouldn't talk to her committed negligant homicide " is something i might do.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

precision posted:

Cool, make sure you post 10 times in a row for each separate thought you have.

Hey I'm not the one defending a show for young adults that makes suicide an acceptable way to get back at people they don't like.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Did she watch ALL 13 EPISODES???

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/05/01/school_counselors_talk_netflix_s_controversial_teen_suicide_drama_13_reasons.html

Don't worry I will watch the remaining 12

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Despera
Jun 6, 2011
10 more hours of hana blaming everyone for her death.

She literally says that other people are responsible for her death. They aren't. You weren't forced to kill yourself.

Hooray for "raising awareness" and "starting a discussion" when this show is going to get kids killed.

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