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cant cook creole bream: Aug 15, 2011; I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

I just went through the show and enjoyed it quite a bit. But after reading some of the posts around here, I have to agree that there are some real issues I overlooked especially with regard to her mental state.

Committing suicide is the epitome of an unhealthy decision and a human body actually feels a survival instinct which makes you doubt that decision. The only way that mental safe guard gets bypassed is if it's severely weakened by a mental imbalance. While her perception might have been a bit negative at the end (for example she exclaimed that Clay hated her when she talked to the counselor.) it never really felt like she was spiraling.

By the end she made it sound like she carefully weighted all the pros and cons and made a rational, logical decision as a deterministic reaction to the given events. And I hate the sort of message that sends.

If you ever feel suicidal, you're thoroughly broken and incapable of making decisions. It's not your fault and you must not feel guilty about it but at that point your brain is an active enemy to yourself and you need professional help.

Maybe I am a bit harsh here, but, discounting martyrdom, I don't believe that any physical healthy person, who has committed suicide was at a mentally stable point in their lives.

EDIT: I feel kind of lovely now, for saying that a bunch of desperate dead people where crazy, but in some sense, that is my opinion.

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cant cook creole bream: Aug 15, 2011; I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

This show is kinda weird. The only people I would consider recommending it to are also the ones who shouldn't be watching that.

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cant cook creole bream: Aug 15, 2011; I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

sportsgenius86 posted:

The thing that seems readily apparent to me at this point is that what prevents people from suicide and what educates people about suicide are entirely different things that do not work in conjunction with one another at all times.

This show is probably not the greatest thing in the world for people who have considered suicide or have had suicidal thoughts. For people who haven't had those thoughts and aren't actively aware of it, this seems to be a useful tool.

In my mind, this appears to be something which is attempting to inspire a conversation rather than something that talks people off of a ledge and for that purpose, I believe it succeeds.

Based on all of the things I've read that talk about how this show is counter to suicide prevention techniques, I don't really know that you can make anything that serves the dual purpose of advocacy and treatment for an issue this sensitive. So the question becomes which of those is more useful for this medium, which I believe is trying to incite advocacy.

At the end of the day, I have seen more people talking about this subject than I've ever seen before and I think that says a lot for this show.

There are plenty of people who shouldn't watch this because it surely doesn't try to talk anyone down from the ledge. But this is actually a really good interpretation and it makes me look at this show in a more positive light. Thanks for this insightful post.

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