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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Mad Men shows Don Draper as a complete wreck around S4, and by S6 he’s blacked out and puking at wakes during the day. He’s portrayed as good as what he does, and able to put on a smooth front to people a lot of the time, but a complete disaster of a human being.

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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
So what made the series explode in popularity for Season 3?

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

punk rebel ecks posted:

So what made the series explode in popularity for Season 3?

I don't know if it exploded in popularity -- it could be that the bad fans got extremely loud and visible during season three.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

punk rebel ecks posted:

So what made the series explode in popularity for Season 3?

Maybe it was because people were going nuts about the show and new people started from the beginning when it was still "Wow, it's the 50s and they are doing 50s things!" Then when they got to the dark stuff, they were already trapped.

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

I think the long gap between 2 and 3 allowed it time to grow in popularity while also making the biggest fans become overhyped in expectation of any new content.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Ballz posted:

I think the long gap between 2 and 3 allowed it time to grow in popularity while also making the biggest fans become overhyped in expectation of any new content.

By season 8 in TYOOL 2030 or so Mr. PoopyButthole will have lived a truly full life and will be able to taunt those biggest fans properly about it at its end.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

prefect posted:

I don't know if it exploded in popularity -- it could be that the bad fans got extremely loud and visible during season three.

Ratings in season 3 we're significantly higher than season 2.

Weltlich
Feb 13, 2006
Grimey Drawer

punk rebel ecks posted:

So what made the series explode in popularity for Season 3?

I think it was partly because of the hype it'd been garnering in the press and online, but to a large degree I think it was part of a larger trend toward AMC and other non-premium cable networks starting to air really high quality adult drama and comedy. Previous to this point, HBO and to a lesser extent Showtime had bragging rights to "good cable TV." But AMC, FX and a few other channels started making series that really rivaled the premium channel stuff in quality around 2007-2010. (Mad Men, Nip/Tuck, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Always Sunny, Justified, etc) It was probably part of a larger trend, and it helped that Mad Men was a legitimately well written, acted, and produced series.

Meanwhile, the big three networks kept making more and more dancing/singing/whatever shows, canned laff sitcoms, and endless CSI/NCIS/SVU spin-offs. That drove the 18-45 demographic to look for something else, and what they found was Mad Men.

edit: Oh were you talking about R&M?

Weltlich fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Apr 12, 2018

GoneRampant
Aug 19, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
The gap between seasons 2 and 3, the show getting on Netflix and word of mouth generating a lot of buss is why R&M S3 was as known as it was.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
When did the merchandise really start to hit the stores? That's got to help interest as well and distinguish it from just another goofy random adult swim show.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 244 days!

OmegaBR posted:

When did the merchandise really start to hit the stores? That's got to help interest as well and distinguish it from just another goofy random adult swim show.

The real cost of buying a Rick shirt at Hot Topic is someday becoming aware of the irony.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

punk rebel ecks posted:

Ratings in season 3 we're significantly higher than season 2.

Does anybody know if ratings have gotten more accurate? I read that the old fashioned "keeping a diary of what you watched" was incredibly bad. But now you've got Internet all over the place, so that has to complicate things, too.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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OmegaBR posted:

When did the merchandise really start to hit the stores? That's got to help interest as well and distinguish it from just another goofy random adult swim show.

After the first season before the second season, I found Rick and Morty shirts at the store. Then when I saw that Monopoly, that was for me the turning point. It got to a pretty insane level then and it didn’t stop.

Once Funko started releasing those toys I think is when it fully hit the mainstream. Toys were everywhere. Target, Walmart, Toys r us, any comic book store, or book store. Rick and Morty was there.

The McDonald’s thing was the natural tipping point.


On a side note, I guess when I was drunk I got tickets to a Rick and Morty pub crawl. I can see how fun that sounded at first but now I’m not even sure I want to go.
I can’t imagine anything more obnoxious than a bunch of costumed Rick and Morty fans going bar to bar across Denver on a Saturday night.

Don’t drink and use Facebook. Actually don’t use Facebook.

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum
Rick and Morty pub crawl seems like the worst idea in the history of bad ideas, what the Christ.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
What are tickets to a pub crawl? I thought it was just walking from one bar to another all night.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

prefect posted:

What are tickets to a pub crawl? I thought it was just walking from one bar to another all night.

I've been to pub crawls where your ticket gets you some kind of identifier and then they've made deals with the bars for drink specials for anyone wearing bunny ears or whatever.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

Rick and Morty pub crawl seems like the worst idea in the history of bad ideas, what the Christ.

Yeaaah. Like the local con here is cool to dress up and meet other fans and that’s always been a good experience but apparently a hundred people?

But you get drink specials a free shot and a “portal to another dimension”. I don’t know what that is but I don’t know if I want to find out.
Either it’s going to be a bunch of obnoxious fans running around or like 5 people dressed up like Rick burping and yelling about pickles.

Either way I think I’m passing.

CelticPredator fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Apr 13, 2018

Slightly Absurd
Mar 22, 2004


I think the big thing that helped this show in becoming more popular is how one is rewarded by rewatching episodes. You watch it once, and it's pretty great, go back and watch again, and you're treated to all sorts of little things you couldn't have noticed the first time. Like during the Cronenberg episode, you can't really catch at first how Rick used that thing from the Interdimensional Cable episode to scope out other suitable universes.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

CelticPredator posted:

But you get drink specials a free shot and a “portal to another dimension”. I don’t know what that is but I don’t know if I want to find out.

I'm guessing either acid for everybody, a giant party blunt, or some gimmicky mixed drink with a fuckload of booze in it.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling
1-800-GAMBLER


Ultra Carp

prefect posted:

Does anybody know if ratings have gotten more accurate? I read that the old fashioned "keeping a diary of what you watched" was incredibly bad. But now you've got Internet all over the place, so that has to complicate things, too.

Traditional Neilson ratings are probably about as accurate as they've ever been. The flip side, of course, is that over the air numbers are far less relevant than they used to be-it matters a lot less to Adult Swim now how many people watched Rick and Morty at 11 PM on Saturday, when they have far more accurate numbers on how many logged on to adultswim.com to stream it, how many people watched the episodes through On Demand, or how many people are actively binging the show on Netflix or Hulu.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
Please go on the Rick and Morty pub crawl and tell us what happens.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Traditional Neilson ratings are probably about as accurate as they've ever been. The flip side, of course, is that over the air numbers are far less relevant than they used to be-it matters a lot less to Adult Swim now how many people watched Rick and Morty at 11 PM on Saturday, when they have far more accurate numbers on how many logged on to adultswim.com to stream it, how many people watched the episodes through On Demand, or how many people are actively binging the show on Netflix or Hulu.

Netflix doesn't reveal its numbers. They only way people know how well their content is doing is if Netflix renews the license.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Cojawfee posted:

Netflix doesn't reveal its numbers. They only way people know how well their content is doing is if Netflix renews the license.

They don't reveal their numbers even to the content creators? That sounds awful.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Cojawfee posted:

Netflix doesn't reveal its numbers. They only way people know how well their content is doing is if Netflix renews the license.

The MST3K thread was very stressed by this for a long time. We had no way of knowing if the show was doing well enough for season 12.

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018

rydiafan posted:

The MST3K thread was very stressed by this for a long time. We had no way of knowing if the show was doing well enough for season 12.

people are really desparate to get this info, there's been reports of ad networks using phone mics to identify what netflix shows you're watching (mic on phone picks up noise from tv and fingerprints it) to give advertisers viewing numbers. (ex: how many people are binging breaking bad? if a lot maybe we should run ads on AMC)

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Skellybones posted:

Please go on the Rick and Morty pub crawl and tell us what happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puExdo8Vts4

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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That’s someone trying to make fun of the fans but ends up being worse

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

CelticPredator posted:

That’s someone trying to make fun of the fans but ends up being worse

I would argue that the fans themselves would reach that level after a few pints (and only a few, since I'm p sure the nerds couldn't hold their liquor).

So yeah...non alcoholic pub crawl might work despite the cringe, but otherwise it'd be a singularly bad idea.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Phenotype posted:

They don't reveal their numbers even to the content creators? That sounds awful.

I know for a fact they don't reveal their own numbers. I'm pretty sure I've read that they don't tell people how their licensed content is doing either. It could be because if a show is blowing up on Netflix, and Netflix says "Wow a billion people watched this show" that gives the content owner incentive to either jack up the license fees or pull it entirely and put it on a streaming service they have a stake in.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Cojawfee posted:

I know for a fact they don't reveal their own numbers. I'm pretty sure I've read that they don't tell people how their licensed content is doing either. It could be because if a show is blowing up on Netflix, and Netflix says "Wow a billion people watched this show" that gives the content owner incentive to either jack up the license fees or pull it entirely and put it on a streaming service they have a stake in.

It also allows them to generate bullet-proof buzz: hard to burst the critical bubble if you never know no one is watching. Their programming budget is so big they can :airquote: waste :airquote: money on prestige projects and as long as subscriptions keep going up, they don't have to justify any specific expenditure.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




It’s probably better that way even if it kind of makes some content makers paranoid.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Seems like chickens coming home to roost from content creators and networks being at each others' throats so bad. (see Cartoon Network)

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Australian Rick reminds me of my previous neighbour's ex who showed up one night and was going to kill her.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Does anyone have a link to that video that used clips of awful Rick and Morty fans with parts from Morty's Mind Blowers?

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Australian Rick reminds me of my previous neighbour's ex who showed up one night and was going to kill her.

cool

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum
Australian Rick reminds me of the drunk bastard who woke me up this morning yelling at my neighbour

There are lots of Australian Ricks in Australia

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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ALL THEY DID WAS WHINGE AND COMPLAIN!

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 32 days!


GET IN THE FUCKIN CAHHH MORTYYY!

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

If I go to the bar crawl I’m gonna dress up as Aussie Rick and win all the contests.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
So I decided to buy all the comics while I begin the long wait for S4, and I really enjoyed the first trade. They are better than I thought they’d be and once I got into the rhythm of hearing things in my head in the character’s voices instead of my own voice I was definitely struggling to put it down. It also has a really amazing throwaway Summer joke that makes me love her.

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