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It was interesting having two vignette stories back to back. I didn't expect that. Ricklantis mixup was satisfyingly interwoven and tied together to a big deal at the end. This one delightfully fails to come together at all. Summer's utterly blasé response to the crisis is great. It's a second layer of the "people are constantly cleaning up after Rick" story we saw with the Neutrino Bomb and Morty in the Vindicators episode.
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So there were a lot of mind blowers. And maybe this is just the series playing fast and loose with continuity, but we are constantly getting glimpses of the idea that there are many many Rick and Morty adventures that we don’t get to see. Easily more than 365. Is Morty going to grow up over the course of the series? Will he still be a 14 year old boy in 5 seasons?
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A Rickle in Time is the one that hooked me. I guess it probably depends on your audience and what they like.
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ymgve posted:Just watched the Citadel episode. Because Rick and Morty is a show with surrealist tendencies that routinely picks funny or a feeling over realism if it serves the story.
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Sep 23, 2017 07:10
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Morty has had a surprising amount of sex in his 14th year on planet earth.
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21 Muns posted:Yeah, yeah, "continuity sucks", I know, but is it possible that they're the vampires? They really looked like vampires. They looked like wimpy versions of Predator. Same face mandible things. Since Fem Shep rebound lady was all about hunting, I assumed that was the joke.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:18
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This is literally the Citadel of Ricks. A place our Rick couldn’t stand which was so stupid and messed up that it ended up being run by a Morty. They wanted to think they were as smart as Rick so they became the less Rick Ricks. I can’t stop laughing at this.
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Phylodox posted:He goes to a "future dimension", a dimension existing contemporarily with ours but with much more advanced, futuristic leg-unbreaking technology. Yes. Also it’s the pilot so there’s some slippage there around whether there is time travel. Because he also says spent A LOT of time with young ladies who all wanted to spend time with him. And he wasn’t gone that long. I think that’s pretty clearly the writers going for jokes over precise hard scifi rules about what the portal gun can or cannot do.
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Sep 27, 2017 02:58
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I figured Rick’s ‘life finds a way” reference was meant to indicate that, like in Jurassic Park, he’d designed them not to be fucksble and reproduce and was impressed to discover he was wrong.
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Sep 27, 2017 07:19
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Anyone else see a clear parallel thematic structure of this episode between A & B plots? Both parents deny their way into messes of their own making that they try to deny their way out of. This goes poorly and causes very bad things to happen. Each is given an opportunity to ask whether they are evil and then veers away before confronting the question. Dan Harmon's story circle puts them back more or less where they started because that's what he thinks TV shows need to do. The differences are that we get to see how the evil in the parents manifests themselves. Jerry is passive and so desperate to avoid confrontation that he puts his own kids in the line of fire. Beth is aggressive and so desperate to take control that she murders the guy she came to save. Both has a climactic "am I evil?" moment and Beth gets to avoid dealing with hers because Rick offers a way out. Jerry gets to avoid his because of a literal Ex Machina that lets him feel like he was the wronged one after all. This feels like a sequel to the Marriage Counsellor B plot.
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OmegaBR posted:It actually did strike me that both used the word evil, and I think both even said "I'm not an evil person." Jerry's speech before the alien boyfriend shows up is a genuine moment of self-reflection/explanation where he admits he just doesn't know what he's doing, even bringing up getting Beth pregnant at 17. "I'm not evil, none of this is on purpose." Surely that was supposed to be a big takeaway but it gets bogged down by the rest of the episode, and the "not evil, you're smart" exchange. I might be reading too much into it but I took it as a kind of yin yang of evil. I’m not evil I’m stupid is as weak an excuse as I’m not evil I’m smart. I know too much to do good is as much a cop-out as I know too little to do good. Beth still needs approval fromRick and Jerry needs approval from whoever is around. It’s as if having morals is on a different axis from competence or intelligence. But on reflection I might be adding in that message because we also have the episode where Morty tries to do the right thing and ends up killing thousands along the way to nearly unleashing galactic genocide instead of just slacking off and playing video games like Rick wanted.
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Cojawfee posted:No body, no death. Tell that to the system that convicted Tommy’s dad.
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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah Calvin & Hobbes isn't even ahead of its time, it literally unironically transcends its own medium, and I'm having a hard time thinking of literally anything else I could sincerely apply that too. Assuming that you are sincere in wanting some pointers to works that transcend their medium. (Or at least that push the edges of the medium.) The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman Don Quixote What I love about these books is that they are from the early days of popular novels and they are messing with the medium in ways that post modernists thought they were clever for coming up with in the 1990s. A warning: Tristram Shandy is a hard and in many places tedious read. Most people bounce off it multiple times before getting through. Don Quixote can also be kind of hard though it's laugh out loud funny. It works really well as an audiobook. For an easier and more pleasant transcending: Anything by Jorge Louis Borges but my favourite is probably Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius.
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People also valorize Scarface, finance bros love Wolf of Wall Street, Boiler room etc. sales bros think they can be Alec Baldwin in Glengary Glen Ross, Silicon Valley bros think The Social Network is aspirational. Huge chunks of modern tech and policy seems to be based on reading dystopian science fiction and thinking “this is a good how-to manual”. As a people, we are not good at cautionary tales.
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Pretty exciting that R&M’s humour is so sophisticated that it attracts people with a background in both theoretical physics and trademark and copyright law.
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Oct 11, 2017 22:40
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It’s weird talking about kiddie sex jokes being in Justin and Dan’s deep, dark pasts when Bushland Adventures was released in April 2018 and has Rick explaining that he needs to suck Morty’s little Morty penis. I think Adult Swim knows what they got in to.
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Funkmaster General posted:Some googling suggests that Chinese Telephone is not an unheard of name for the game, but not a very common one, either. It doesn't even make wikipedia's list of variant names. Apparently my middle school teachers combined the American name of "Telephone" with the European name of "Chinese Whispers." It was the name multiple independent teachers used, though, and what we all called it, so I didn't realize it was called other things elsewhere. We also universally played it wrong, it turns out, since the goal of the game seems to be to reach the end with the message unchanged; we were always instructed to intentionally change the message with each passing on. It is 100% adorable to me that the game of Telephone that you grew up on consisted of a name and rule set jumbled up as if they had been passed down to you through a game of Telephone.
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I don’t think Rick and Morty is meant to be a character study. In general, I think it’s been at its weakest when it tries to be one. I’ve been enjoying that this season has moved away from the formula of ‘Rick and (mostly Morty) have an adventure and (some other part of the family) has a B plot. I don’t think we need a pile of Looney Tunes that explores the dark consequences of Wile E Coyote‘s murderous traps or Bugs Bunny’s trail of destruction. I don’t need Rick and Morty to have stakes or continuity. We’re a wandering gaze in a multiverse where everything can and has happened. I think the show is at its strongest when it is a festival of ideas and jokes.
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The YouTube algorithm decided this was the right moment to show me this discussion playing out among the creators 2 years ago. https://youtu.be/RecdrgB-Odc
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Lunatic Sledge posted:this is mostly just me spewing incidental trivia but bugs bunny's character was actually the impetus for a lot of new character introductions This is fantastic knowledge. I love this.
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I think that the goofy sci fi series set in a multiverse clearly prizes jokes over continuity. It was weird to see a dynamic that felt like it would have been at home in earlier seasons, though I liked that the A and B plots didn't stay separated. The whole episode had the characters trapped in the logic of 80s/90s family vacation stories, mixed with 80s 90s kid saves the day adventures when their useless skill turns out to be "This is a unix system! I know this!" and then pushing things a little bit far. The daughter always tells off the dad, but not to the uncomfortable extent that Summer told off Jerry etc. The dads get in a fist fight, but not to death. I don't think I'm explaining myself well.
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PostNouveau posted:He's lost control of his situation at home, and he hates not having complete control. The running joke of the episode was meta commentary about TV/movie arcs, plot logic, and season finales. Summer and Morty loudly explaining that this (one episode) conflict to cooperation was their arc, Rick complaining about doing a Star Wars, Jerry getting a new franchise. The ending fit with that, with Rick trying to tie it all up and disappointed that they didn’t want to partake, while all giving him canned reasons not to. That was a nice touch, I thought. He’ll loudly complain about one cliche while doing another see also: Vindicators. The interesting evolution here is that it seems like more of the Smith Family understand that they are in a TV show. Rick has understood this since the pilot. He talks to the audience from time to time and talks about motivation and arcs and this normally confuses Morty. But here, the kids were using plot logic to solve their problems. “Morty was invisible but then he was super visible! That’s our arc!” No idea if this will be a one off or they’re gonna run with it.
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No Luck Needed posted:Some of the Indy comics I remember were: the Tick, Bone, Grendel, Madman, Savage Dragon, Judge Dredd. I always like the Maxx cartoon from Mtv. Maybe spawn and savage dragon shouldn't count as imagine comics but there was alot out there at a well stock comic store in the 90s. I forget how popular dark horse was with star wars and alien/predator too Grendel would be amazing both for the original anti-hero and then for the completely bananas extended sci-fi universe.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:I can't think of any Asimov stories where the robot doesn't know it's a robot. There are some with secret robots Daneel, but the robot itself knows. His robots are usually non-violent, I can only think of 2 short stories where a robot actually kills someone. My memory is that most of the three laws of robotics novels are mysteries about how a robot managed to do a murder despite not having broken free of the three laws.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:There might also be a bit of Beth having a point, too, even if it's not for the reasons she thought: when I was 14 my views on violent activism were much, much closer to Morty's. A few years down the road he might be a lot less squeamish about the things Planetina is doing. I think it is hilarious that you see rejection of murderous ecoterrorism as a sign of emotional immaturity.
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Part of why Morty's teenage angst first love at 14 fell kind of flat with me (and Beth's resistance to an older woman) is that Raising Gazorpazorp & Rest and Ricklaxation episodes already happened. Kid's been a father and a wolf of wall street player. This episode would have played better if it had come before them.
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I don't love masturbation jokes, but I didn't hate the episode. It felt to me like a romp through all the teen 80s movies. Teen sex comedies, musclebound action flicks, dumb sci fi. It was kind of dumb that they re-used the "There's a solution here you're not seeing," joke from the fall of the galactic federation.
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Incest Porn.
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Typical posted:Well goons, glad to see this discourse is alive and well in these threads. Your behind the scenes glimpses are neat and keep me coming back to the thread.
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I wonder how much money animation studios saved by running that exact animation once per episode while child me cheered every time.
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galagazombie posted:Ironically that episode was good because it was one of those episodes instead of a “lore” episode. Like part of why the Story Train was so good was how it took the piss out of people constantly trying to make “theories” and poo poo. It’s why the season finale was season fours worst episode because right after Story Train so skillfully mocked that stuff the Finale does it all straight without a sliver of self awareness. Almost like it was two different head writers having a slap fight. “The finale does it straight without a sliver of self awareness,” did we watch the same episode? The one I watched had Morty and Summer yelling “We worked together. That's... that's our arc. We went from siblings to invisible to working together. It's not ‘Citizen Kane,’ but why compete with whatever's going on here, you know?” into “Come on, kids, we have to go do a loving piece of poo poo Star Wars.”
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Every time you post behind the scenes stuff I get a huge smile on my face. Nice work and thanks for sharing. The felt squid UFO is great and reminds me of Jeff from SCUD.
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It was funny.
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PostNouveau posted:They seem to me to have settled into a pattern of keeping the long-term lore stuff to the first and last episodes of every season. Season 5: Mr Nimbus was episode 1. Restoring Bird Person (with much backstory) was 8 into two-part 9&10 mega Citadel continuity. I don’t think there’s a solid pattern, except that the last episode is always a season finale.
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Also, is this the end of garbage can car?
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Phenotype posted:Well, it's been years since they've changed dimensions, and they're STILL all glowy. And unless I'm much dumber about biology than I think I am, that means a significant portion of their body's cells have died and been replaced by new cells, the material for which comes entirely from consuming matter from the new dimension. So there's something about their body that takes in matter from the new dimension and creates new cells that are tagged with the old dimension. If it didn't, then the travelers wouldn't be so uniformly glowy, because a significant portion of them would be cells created from new dimension matter and wouldn't glow. The index/identity isn’t the biology. We know that’s the case from all kinds of things, not least of which is the Rick we know and love has passed through multiple Project Lazarus, the brainalizer chain, and the toxic Rick fight. We also know that the portal guns are connected to a network where it’s kind of taboo to track everywhere it has gone but totally possible (first Citadel/Evil Morty investigation). They can also detect when a portal gun is damaged (Morty & Summer in Chronenberg world). This is a lot like cellphones. Total surveillance but a presumption of privacy. Similarly, you know how your area code/number is linked back to wherever you lived when you first got your own account? Even as you port the number across devices and SIM cards and carriers, there’s a chain of identity that goes back to where you came from. When Rick reset the travellers, it just made everyone go back to the lovely kiosk where they first signed up for an iPhone. I think the portal network just doesn’t know about anything that didn’t pass through it so the space baby is fine wherever they left it. The real answer is whatever the writers think is most narratively useful/funny.
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Macaluso posted:It's actually kind of terrifying how fast Mr Frundles spreads. Yeah, my tiny brain was not able to process how many bites there were in that tiny sequence the first time. Sudden parallel propagation of Frundles.
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My fav gag was the Pakistan-ish world leader speaking in a bad Italian accent because Morty has no idea how people talk.
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Alchenar posted:Evil Rick says he's not a teamup guy but his link with Rick's origin story is that he throws a tantrum Rick won't team up with him. The impression I got is that he’s not a team up guy anymore. Or that he’s not a non-Rick team-up guy. He clearly abandoned his own timeline happily.
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kiminewt posted:That explosion scene towards the end was so weird though, like it really felt (like was said here) from the Simpsons or Family Guy. Like I got comedy whiplash and i wasn't sure if it's self-aware or not. It was absolutely self aware. From the opening ‘“quote” to the car chase near miss and goofy over the top action gags, this was a genre satire sendup like the gotron mafia sendup.
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