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InequalityGodzilla posted:

People who walk incredibly slowly in the middle of the corridor, while also simultaneously swaying side to side a bit as they walk which makes it drat near impossible to slip past them.

People who do this in the middle of the pavement. Every time I go out for a run I see at least one of these. I'm running along and start moving into the empty space (because as a non-retard I look where I'm going and act accordingly) only for them to sloooowly drift into it, so I change direction to accommodate them and they sloooowly drift back again. Stick to one side!

Also people walking along staring at their phones or their feet, or off to the side at something shiny in a shop. People who walk out of a shop across the pavement to their car without looking left or right. I've full-body slammed into people a couple of times because they've appeared out of loving nowhere.

Driving, people sitting in the middle lane. Are you overtaking? No? Then MOVE OVER.

I think all of these boil down to 'people with terrible spatial awareness.'

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Wheat Loaf posted:

Here's an obnoxious thing that I think makes me reasonably angry: men using public conveniences/shared facilities, pissing all over the toilet seat and leaving it for the next guy to deal with.

Is it difficult for some people to lift the seat before you go? Is it difficult for some people to wipe up after they're done? Because I've never had either problem that I can recall. Who do these people think they are?

My work has a big training facility we go to for residential courses. Last time I was there I went to use the toilet in the main building and someone had left a giant messy poo poo in it.

Not as bad as the guy who got drunk and poo poo on the floor in his room, though.

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MisterBibs posted:

Does anyone personally know - hell, let's expand it one degree further to know people who know people - who have ever been ticketed for being in the left lane? It only seems to come up as a justification for being an rear end in a top hat tailgater.

I'm a flow-of-traffic guy on the highway, but on regular roads, gently caress you I'm in whatever lane I need to be in because I'm going to be turning eventually. You can either get upset that I'm going a speed that won't get me pulled over*, get upset because in three minutes because you'll have to slow down because I'm making a turn, or slow down and go with the flow I'm going at.

* Especially on roads I know well, ones that the cops will bust you for going five over

Since it was brought in for the UK, it's happened but not nearly enough: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-3792498/Just-135-fines-issued-middle-lane-hogging.html

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Rolo posted:

Quote isn't edit.

I hate people being anti sports on the internet like it's not much more annoying to read 'hand egg, sports ball and superb owl' over and over and over every time someone brings up football.

It's a big nerd thing in general to be super condescending about very ordinary things. Like I get it, you were bullied in school and you're still hung up on it, but it's normal and ok for adults to have a diverse range of interests and for sports to be one of them.

That's a pet peeve actually - people who define themselves extremely narrowly by a single interest, and get really adversarial about it. It is ok to like a thing and for it to be a major interest, but if you have one singular interest and nothing else, and also you get super defensive about it, that isn't mentally healthy.

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Inzombiac posted:

People who talk about their favorite sports teams as "we". You don't play for them. "We" didn't win anything. They, the team of highly trained athletes, won. Not you. You have a dad bod and are 5'6".

This is a pedant's argument which annoys me as much as "sportsball" and stuff. Fans are a way bigger part of a sports club or team than individual players are -fans show up when the team is shite and playing away in the rain at 7pm on a Tuesday, fans pay the money for tickets to games and watch on TV and buy the merchandise, and generally they stick with the club much longer than any individual player. Not to mention that plenty of fans are members of the club, or even owners if there's a supporters' trust or something in place. It's absolutely "we."

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Mu Zeta posted:

It's dumb to have that kind of loyalty to a team when they don't care about you whatsoever or the city they play in. Teams are happy to leave and go to Utah or whatever at a moment's notice. Team names changing from city to the corporate sponsor is inevitable. I can't wait for the Comcast Rams to beat the Time-Warner Bengals.

This is only really true in professional American sports, and it's because of the way the leagues are set up. Franchising means American professional leagues have heavily restricted access to new entrants, which massively increases owner power. There's also far fewer teams than there are viable places for teams to exist, so a franchise owner can reasonably threaten to move the team to another city (e.g. to bully local authorities into providing funding for new stadiums). It's far less common outside of that context - American college or high school sports are closer in spirit to what English football or rugby are like, although still not exactly the same because they're obviously tied to schools/colleges and don't exist independently.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Why is it only sports then? Movie fans wait in the rain for midnight releases, show up when a sequel is shite, pay money for tickets and merchandise, and generally stick with movie series longer than any individual actor or director. They still don't say "we won the oscar" when the movie wins. Sometimes I will go see a band I like in concert even when they haven't made a new album in years and don't have much of a following any more but that doesn't mean I'm delusional enough to think I'm "part of" the band.

(My presumed answer is because is baked-in regionalism and the idea that athletes represent you is a big part of the marketing of sporting events, and playing to local rivalries sells tickets/merchandise/etc. Happy to hear your thoughts though.)

My answer is going to be bound up in a lot of assumptions about English club football, so they might not be generally applicable although I think there's plenty of other parts of the world where the same things hold true.

I think the fundamental difference between sports clubs and "media," to use a very broad-brush term, is that the former are permanent institutions and the latter tend to be products/individual artworks depending on point of view. My football club has existed since the 19th century, it has more continuous history than a large number of countries. Let's say that like me you grow up from age 4 as a supporter - over the span of your life it's likely that you'll see hundreds of players pass through, and thousands of other staff you never know exist. The only common linkage is the club. If a band changed the singer, then the guitarist, then the drummer, and so on until none of the original members are left, there's a good question over whether the band still exists. Bands that do try and carry on despite changing a lot (the Sugababes and All Saints come to mind) usually get dismissed as being fake or end up as jokes, whereas no-one would say Manchester United weren't the same club because there's different players now than there were 10 years ago. Also, as I said before, fans are often paid-up members or actual owners of the club, which is an unlikely position for a film unless you're a shareholder in Disney or something (or a producer I guess).

I'd also say that movies or a new album or whatever are "events" in a way that sports are not. If a film is massively commercially successful it might get a sequel every 2-3 years. People will turn out to see it, some of them more than once, and maybe buy the Blu-Ray and re-watch it, but apart from very small children or severe autists it'd be pretty unusual for someone to watch the same film every Saturday, for years on end. That's normal behaviour for sports, which have a much more continuous existence.

A lot of it is just "because." One of the big issues in English football right now is wealthy individuals or investment groups buying clubs and then loving them up in some way. A lot of these people view the club the same way as any other asset they've bought - they exchanged money for it therefore it's their property. This is true in a technical sense but not true in the real world where fans have very proprietary feelings about their clubs. I don't think the same would be true of a film franchise - like no-one who was well into Marvel films is going to feel like Disney buying them means they don't "own" it any more. On the other hand, lots of gamers are pretty proprietary about the games they're fans of - when CA recently announced the second Total War: Warhammer, there were people all over their Facebook going on about how they were abandoning their "real fans" who were "owed" what they wanted i.e. a new historical game. Fandoms in general are trying to recreate that same feeling of belonging that sports teams take for granted, and you can see this in marketing like in Facebook ads for ONLY REAL STAR WARS FANS or whatever.

I guess all of the above is another way to say "yes, it's tribalism and it's true because we feel it is." On the other hand, people like the op are almost always sneering nerds who're determined to "well actually" to invalidate how people feel and I don't think that's better.

Out of curiosity - for people who feel like it's inappropriate to say "we" about a sports team, is there anything bigger than yourself that you do feel like you belong to? Your church, your political party, your university or company?

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I love this sketch.

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Inzombiac posted:

That argument doesn't hold up in an environment where the sports fan is talking to people who don't follow sports.

It means "we" the collective group of fans, not "we" the people in the conversation. If I was telling my friend about a game my team was involved in I would say "we won" or "we lost" and that would not include him because he was not there and is not a fan of the team. Was this actually not something you understood before?

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Strom Cuzewon posted:

Even the sketch makes it clear that sportsballers are insufferable dicks - they don't bother trying to make him seem reasonable at first, they just launch straight into full-bore David Mitchell ranting.

lol the first time around I clicked and saw the title and who it was and thought it was the other Mitchel & Webb football sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_uOgyBK1c

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Snowglobe of Doom posted:

In one of my previous office jobs they didn't have enough desks for everyone and since I was the last guy hired I was designated hotdesker. Every morning I had to find out who had called in sick and use their desk for the day and since my back isn't in great I usually had to adjust their seat and I quite often had to adjust the height of the desk as well. (The desks were adjustable so people had set them to all sorts of different heights.) I'm pretty sure everyone hated my guts because of that but it's not like I had a choice, if I tried sitting in an incorrectly adjusted chair for 8 hours I'd be hosed. This went on for months and months.
It wasn't a small office either, it was a huge building with at least 200 people on that floor alone but for some reason they couldn't organise one more desk and computer for the new guy.

The client I'm auditing at the moment has a guy who's been in this position for about 3 years. At this point he's taken over a 'project desk' they have (intended for group breakouts and the like) as his unofficial desk but it's a really dumb situation.

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yeah I eat rear end posted:

On a related note, it makes me unreasonably angry when people call themselves a "writer" or "artist" or "musician" or whatever when they have never truly successfully done it for a living, let alone made any money off of it.

Amateurism is a thing my dude

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Apr 24, 2010

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Jerry Cotton posted:

If my co-workers hadn't pointed out all the mistakes I'd made I would never have learned anything. Positive reinforcement is a myth perpetuated by bad people.

This is dumb as poo poo, here's hoping you post better in future

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Apr 24, 2010

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Antioch posted:

This lady across the back alley has called her kids name like 100 times in the last 10 minutes, just "Aidan Aidan Aidan Aidan" and on and on and on. She's trying to get his attention for a picture.

And I'm like holy lord woman no he's like 6 months old he doesn't have object permanence yet let alone name recognition! Aidan is a concept that not exist for him yet!

It's very aggravating.

Where I used to live there was a woman a few doors down who would scream at her kids all drat evening from like 5pm until 10-11. The kids did not give the slightest poo poo because screaming everything at the top of her voice was Just What Mummy Does but hearing her annoyed the poo poo out of us. Truly terrible parenting.

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Apr 24, 2010

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timefly posted:

Nah, I can deal with them sometimes for my boyfriend's sake.

This makes me unreasonably angry

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silence_kit posted:

Lol, on this forum, someone being socially awkward is like the worst sin. I think if you had described the first guy as being a violent rapist or abuser or con man or whatever instead of being weird, sad and lonely, the response from the posters here would have been milder.

Nah dude the OP has posted like 5 times about how weird this guy is and how uncomfortable he makes her etc. If you're at the point where you're making regular posts on an internet forum about how much you hate spending time with someone, maybe you should not let them into your house.

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bean_shadow posted:

My mom worked her way up from a secretary to head of I.T. in the Las Vegas casino biz in a short amount of time in the 1980s. No degree or anything. She hasn't had to work a lovely retail job since the 1970s. Oh but she knows all about working lovely retail in the 2000s.

She told me that during my job interviews I should tell the interviewer about my social disabilities. "It's illegal for them to not hire you because of them!" Yeah, if they admit it. But they can sure as hell can say, "We'll get back to you" and never call.

That's not to say she didn't have good advice when it came to the actual job interview and what managers looked for, but she has no idea how lovely companies have become in treating their employees or even how customers act, if it's a retail job.

Yeah my dad was the same, he left school in 1978 with mediocre high school qualifications (at age 16, a point where nowadays we say kids are so unqualified they're not even allowed to leave school). In his tiny nothing home town he applied for 4 jobs, was interviewed for 4 jobs, got offers for 4 jobs. That first job at age 16 was the stepping stone which led him to work his way all the way up to being high-level in a major global bank.

By contrast, I finished uni at age 21. I had two extra levels of qualifications, and all my grades were way better than anything he'd ever gotten. I applied for 100+ jobs in a major city and didn't even get a call back. My parents assumed I was sitting on my rear end not trying, but the only advice they could give was "go and hand out your CV in shops!" to which most of the shop staff reacted by telling me to apply online like a normal person. Eventually a friend did me a favour and I got a job working night shifts in a hotel, being paid wages that were basically unliveable. This did not lead to a bountiful career in the hotel industry - instead I bounced around a bunch of different, more or less unrelated jobs.

Now that I'm in a professional career the old man has tons of good and useful advice, because "in a good job and looking to move" is a very different experience. The route in to work for young people has changed fundamentally though - both in terms of expectations of education level and what kind of work a degree gets you - and I think there's a lot of people in their 40s-60s who can't grasp that, especially if they're in the professions or IT because if they have moved in the last 20 years they've probably had recruiters hanging off their dicks doing half the work for them. It sucks for them sometimes too - when I was unemployed and going to the job centre to sign on for benefits, there were people there (around 2011-12 or so) who were in their 40s, had worked at the same place their whole lives, then been made redundant in the wake of the recession and had no idea how to find a new job because they'd done it once at age 17 and never again.

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Apr 24, 2010

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Americans can't pronounce Craig properly anyway so you saved him from that.

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The Snoo posted:

littering pisses me off so much, it's so easy to NOT do it

It's trash behaviour from trash people.

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This article has some p. funny responses but Myrtle is the best one: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jul/01/it-has-had-a-real-social-impact-readers-on-the-smoking-ban-ten-years-on

quote:

Myrtle, 50, Huddersfield: It has ruined my social life

Smoker since she was 13

I was angry about the smoking ban and still am. The pubs changed immediately and I don’t enjoy going to them anymore. Many, which had been a lifeline for lonely people, ended up closing. Pubs don’t smell nice anymore, and it’s not nice going outside to smoke in the rain and cold without your pint. It has ruined my social life and affects my desire to travel, go to the cinema or a restaurant, or even have a coffee somewhere. I go out for short bursts, for as long as I can manage without smoking. You can’t smoke in most people’s houses anymore either, so I am mostly on my own at home.

The extension of the ban, to plain packaging that is all the same and covered with disgusting photographs and warnings, has made it very difficult for shop staff to find the tobacco you want. Cars no longer have ashtrays in them so I take a portable one. I disagree with the ban as it has turned me into a hermit. I think individual owners of cinemas, bars, pubs and restaurants could decide for themselves whether they want a smoking or non-smoking environment, or both. I remember some pubs having a room for each, which was fine. I don’t want to annoy anyone who doesn’t like the smell or the smoke, but the ban has gone too far.

Waah, I'm sad because my disgusting addiction stops me having a life, this is everyone else's fault

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Catberry posted:

In the great irony of it all. Vaping is gradually becoming banned in work places and other establishments because vapers are taking what little freedom they had too far and becoming a real nuisance. Insisting on repeating the sins of the father.

I used to work with a guy who was That Guy - he always would tell you what thing he'd bought, and how much it cost, and what a great deal he'd got on it because he'd done x or y Super Clever Thing which most people didn't know about (which 99% of the time was being an objectionable prick). He was also a smoker, and the minute vaping hit there he was in the staff canteen area, vaping like his life depended on it, because it's not banned, guys, it's not smoking!!! Never mind that it was still loving obnoxious to have him puffing in your face at the table.

He also moved in with a girl from work that he'd known about 4 weeks and absolutely refused to pay any amount of money in rent which would go towards the mortgage, because he wasn't on the mortgage so he wouldn't get anything out of it. Basically he lived there and paid his half of their tiny bills and that was that. Why she never told him to gently caress off I won't understand - they eventually got together and it was so evidently one of those "well, I guess so" relationships-by-default.

oldpainless posted:

I used to work at a car rental place. One Sunday I got a call from a woman at 1030. She said her car was due back at 1045 but she was about 30 minutes behind. We were open until 2 and we didn't need it back so I said it's fine just have it back by 2 and I won't charge anything extra. 11 went by and noon and 1 and I closed at 2 and left. The next morning the car was left overnight and I charged her for the day. An hour later she calls me in a rage saying she was told she had till 2 to return it at no charge and she was there at 1:50 but we had closed so it's not her fault and shouldn't be charged. I told her I was the guy she talked to, we were open till 2 and we had cameras and she came by at 2:07. This bitch started SCREAMING about her lawyer and a lawsuit and when I asked her why she said she would be back by 11 yesterday morning but somehow showed up minutes after we closed she had a meltdown. Anyways the place didn't have scripts or anything like that so I started laughing which made her angrier and she swore she would be there within an hour but never showed up.

Welp bye

Guys were regularly meaner, or more aggressive, or belittling, but when I worked in customer service on the phones it was always women who had the primo screaming-like-a-banshee meltdowns. One woman lost her mind and gave a full on shriek of rage because I'd calmly explained her payment method to her for the fifth time, as she failed to understand why we weren't showing up in her list of direct debits (i.e. because she was not paying us that way).

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Tiggum posted:

That's one of those words (like "fortnight") that Americans think is a weird affectation and everyone else just thinks is a normal word.

Nah "whilst" has its place but it's relatively archaic. It's not something you'd use every day and I've never heard anyone speak it who wasn't overdoing things. It falls in that category of e.g. "My sister came to see John and I" where people overcorrect because they don't understand what the words are doing.

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Novum posted:

Imo you should raise your kids and teach them what you know, but hey it takes all sorts

There's a difference between being involved in your kids' lives and teaching them stuff, and being a hyper-pushy helicopter parent.

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Apr 24, 2010

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The answer to this question is always 'humans are loving disgusting.'

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yeah I eat rear end posted:

I always assumed they think they are doing whoever does the groundskeeping in the park a favor by making it easier for them to see it/pick it up. Some people think that just because a person is paid to clean something, it means you aren't expected to make any effort yourself. You see the same attitude in public bathrooms too, or in offices where people think "don't worry about it, the janitor will get that".

I mean, technically it is their job, but you're still an rear end in a top hat if you go out of your way to make it more difficult/gross for them. Unfortunately I think a lot of people are raised without ever learning to clean up after themselves and will never learn unless all the people picking up after them disappear suddenly.

I lived with a guy whose mum was an absolutely obsessive cleaner - like cleaning the house twice a day kind of ridiculous. She always did everything and now he's completely incapable of the most basic cleaning. When we moved out of our first house we had to tidy the place up and his room had literally not been cleaned once in 3 years, and his loving mum and sisters came over and did it all for him. It just doesn't even occur to him that he'd ever need to do it because surely someone else will be along in a minute and sort it for you.

It was unreal. I'm lazy about keeping house, but that means I maybe don't get around to the bigger jobs for a couple weeks, not living in filth for years at a time.

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