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TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Yea, not so much a "reveal" as a trailer for the reveal.

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DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Ill stick with my ps4 slim and some time in the future upgrade my r7 260x

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
I'd probably buy it.

Unlike the third xbox, the xbox one.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

But man, what games?

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

gschmidl posted:

But man, what games?

Uuuuuuh, like, upscaled Sunset Overdrive?

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
I mean, my parents bought me (?) a Colecovision in 1983, I spent the next summer beating records on Turbo, Mousetrap and The Smurfs. I guess if the market crashed I could just survive on the fourth Xbox, the Xbox One Scorpio with just a platform game, a maze game, and a racing game with gimmick controls.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

I got 5.9 teraflops but an xbonex aint point one

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah but this thing has Let It Die, i dont think so!

abagofcheetos
Oct 29, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

DoctorGonzo posted:

Yeah but this thing has Let It Die, i dont think so!

microsoft owns xbox, so they already have let it die

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE2hNrq1Zxs

i only have a cursory education in computer hardware engineering but from what i understand this has some impressive features. the system on chip might bring down the cost, the hardware implementation of DX12 is a cool hack that will provide performance gains far beyond what the straight specs would suggest, they're fixing the lovely RAM bandwidth. the specs own but

I own a PS4 and I love all of the exclusives that have come out this year, which completely blindsided me, I literally didn't know they existed until they came out. vaguely remember some robot dinosaur hunting game they showed at E3. so how much is this piece gonna cost and why should i buy it, you got games? any games that look good?

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

They're still not saying. Assume $500-600.

No games.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



good to see things haven't changed

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
$500 is way too expensive i might think about it at $400, and there's no games huh. it just makes yer old games look slightly better. actually imo the xbone graphics are bad and this just brings those older games graphics up to where they should have been to begin with. where's the games that are designed for this hardware specifically? is that even going to be a thing

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


If you have a fairly modern Win10 system there's literally no reason to buy this unless you simply must play Halo.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
remember when Halo was good and then Bungie hosed off to make a lovely facade of an MMOFPS



yeah um this sounds more like $600 than $500 geez louise

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Here is what DF thinks of the decision to stick with a Jaguar CPU.



exquisite tea posted:

If you have a fairly modern Win10 system there's literally no reason to buy this unless you simply must play Halo.

Honestly if you already have a desktop PC and are OK with gaming on it, just buy a graphics card for whatever the Scorpio ends up costing and your end result will be way better.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

exquisite tea posted:

If you have a fairly modern Win10 system there's literally no reason to buy this unless you simply must play Halo.

It's not even the cheapest 4K Blu-Ray player anymore, unlike the S.

Chairman Wao
Mar 5, 2013

go star

Phyresis posted:

why should i buy it, you got games? any games that look good?

Do you like Halo, Gears or Forza?

abagofcheetos
Oct 29, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

exquisite tea posted:

If you have a fairly modern Win10 system there's literally no reason to buy this unless you simply must play Halo.

and if you simply must play halo may i suggest the following website https://www.mentalhealth.gov/

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
At least it now has the right RAM. :allears:

Chairman Wao
Mar 5, 2013

go star

Lodin posted:

At least it now has the right RAM. :allears:

I believe it.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

they fixed the xbox one by making a ps4

trash person
Apr 5, 2006

Baby Executive is pleased with your performance!
I'm going to buy this despite having an Xbox one S and a decent gaming pc but why am I?????

abagofcheetos
Oct 29, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

trash person posted:

I'm going to buy this despite having an Xbox one S and a decent gaming pc but why am I?????

trash person posted:

Chairman Wao
Mar 5, 2013

go star

trash person posted:

I'm going to buy this despite having an Xbox one S and a decent gaming pc but why am I?????

Sometimes people like to do stupid poo poo for no reason. I bought ME:A.

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!
There is no way this will perform better than a GTX1080/i7 combo, right?

Is their plan literally to put every 1st and 2nd party thing on PC as well, except maybe Halo, and hope Halo still moves units in TYOOL 2017?

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

Chairman Wao posted:

Sometimes people like to do stupid poo poo for no reason. I bought ME:A.

more like chairman lmao

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Stux posted:

they fixed the xbox one by making a ps4

Sweet, these games are going to look loving sick on it:

Beyond: Two Souls
Bloodborne
Days Gone
Detroit: Beyond Human
Dragon Quest Builders
Driveclub
God of War
Gran Turismo Sport
Gravity Rush 2
Heavy Rain
Horizon Zero Dawn
Infamous Series
Killzone Shadow Fall
The King of Fighters XIV
Knack
The Last Guardian
The Last of Us
LittleBigPlanet
MLB The Show
Nioh
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
The Order 1886
Persona 5
Resogun
Rez Infinite
Samurai Warriors 4
Star Ocean 5
Sword Art Online
Uncharted 4
Until Dawn
Wipeout
World of Final Fantasy
and the Yakuza series

univbee fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Apr 6, 2017

Chairman Wao
Mar 5, 2013

go star

Phyresis posted:

more like chairman lmao

Owned by my own self :(

Rookoo
Jul 24, 2007

bloodysabbath posted:

There is no way this will perform better than a GTX1080/i7 combo, right?

Is their plan literally to put every 1st and 2nd party thing on PC as well, except maybe Halo, and hope Halo still moves units in TYOOL 2017?

No way in hell. Never mind an i7, an i5 will outperform it no trouble. Gpu is significantly stronger too.

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere
So this things numbers are higher than all the other consoles numbers, I got it.

trash person posted:

I'm going to buy this despite having an Xbox one S and a decent gaming pc but why am I?????

That's just the kind of thing people like you do.

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

Phyresis posted:

more like chairman lmao

talk about owned

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

bloodysabbath posted:

There is no way this will perform better than a GTX1080/i7 combo, right?

Is their plan literally to put every 1st and 2nd party thing on PC as well, except maybe Halo, and hope Halo still moves units in TYOOL 2017?

In theory no, but I would put money that the Scorpio version of Forza 7 will run better than the PC version, regardless of specs. Optimization and secret sauce.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

univbee posted:

Here is what DF thinks of the decision to stick with a Jaguar CPU.




Honestly if you already have a desktop PC and are OK with gaming on it, just buy a graphics card for whatever the Scorpio ends up costing and your end result will be way better.

Here's the thing I don't understand:

They say this new Xbox thing is capable of 60fps 4k gaming.

I've got an i5-6600k at 4.5Ghz and a 1070 "superclocked" edition and 16GB DDR4 and my pc can't even handle a smooth 30fps in 4k when I tried it out last weekend on any title I own.

How the hell is a tiny little console optimized to be able to do that when a "enthusiast" gaming PC with better specs can't?

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Their claim that it'll run games at 4k/60fps is kinda unrealistic for most games isn't it?

Chairman Wao
Mar 5, 2013

go star

RatHat posted:

Their claim that it'll run games at 4k/60fps is kinda unrealistic for most games isn't it?

I'll run remasters and indie games at a checkerboard 4k and that's good enough for marketing!

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


limaCAT posted:

I mean, my parents bought me (?) a Colecovision in 1983, I spent the next summer beating records on Turbo, Mousetrap and The Smurfs. I guess if the market crashed I could just survive on the fourth Xbox, the Xbox One Scorpio with just a platform game, a maze game, and a racing game with gimmick controls.
you kept records on Colecovision games?

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
It'll run a specifically made version of Forza at those specs.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Dr_0ctag0n posted:

Here's the thing I don't understand:

They say this new Xbox thing is capable of 60fps 4k gaming.

I've got an i5-6600k at 4.5Ghz and a 1070 "superclocked" edition and 16GB DDR4 and my pc can't even handle a smooth 30fps in 4k when I tried it out last weekend on any title I own.

How the hell is a tiny little console optimized to be able to do that when a "enthusiast" gaming PC with better specs can't?

Lowering the detail, pretty much. Quite a few PC titles run substantially better if you drop the general setting from "Ultra" to "High" with almost no visual difference.

They will also put up with only hitting 30fps in most games (they're only really pushing 4K, not so much the framerate), and console racing games are typically very easy to otimize for high resolution and the like which is a big part of the reason why they're so frequently showcase titles on new consoles.

For comparison's sake, most launch games on Xbox One in 2013 were only able to do 720p resolution at about 30fps. Forza Motorsport 5 did 1080p at a locked 60fps but accomplished that because it looked like this:



In much the same vein, a Raspberry Pi 1 is extremely low-powered but can still run Quake 3 at 1080p because its other processing requirements are way lower.

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Stux
Nov 17, 2006

forza managed to run at 1080/60 on stock hardware so its easy enough to scale up

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