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I kinda wonder what people are expecting from like a comedy TV show that's about a group of criminals who pretend to be spies or private investigators and spend most of their time bickering with each other. It's just a fun thing to do with a group of characters you can put in a different setting because it's animated and your costs aren't that much higher if you wanna animate something different than before. Maybe I don't take my cartoons seriously enough, but I never really realized that Archer was a show that people did that with.
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ChairMaster posted:I kinda wonder what people are expecting from like a comedy TV show that's about a group of criminals who pretend to be spies or private investigators and spend most of their time bickering with each other. It's just a fun thing to do with a group of characters you can put in a different setting because it's animated and your costs aren't that much higher if you wanna animate something different than before. I don't really care much about character development or season story arch, I just found this season to be a little light on the jokes.
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Ditocoaf posted:The other seasons were fictional too. pwn posted:If you can't do a show without a "point" in a cartoon, where can you?
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Ditocoaf posted:The other seasons were fictional too. I though South Park suffered the same way by forcing the continuity last season, but at least it was mostly pretty funny. Memba?
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May 28, 2017 07:45
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The show took itself serious enough to have a continuous story through each of these concept seasons. This time it went to a setting that means absolutely nothing to the overall story.
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May 28, 2017 08:39
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I liked that they were willing to remix the cast to a setting entirely removed from the ongoing storyline, and I enjoyed the result quite a bit. As for humor, the number of jokes was definitely fewer in this season, but I think they actually increased the number of jokes that weren't references to previous jokes. That may have contributed to my enjoyment.
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May 28, 2017 11:50
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mobby_6kl posted:No, but it needs to be actually good in order to stand on its own, and this one just wasn't. The story was pretty uninteresting and went nowhere, I thought the characters didn't really work together and mostly it just wasn't very funny at all. It was so meh, I don't think I could've be bothered to comment more than once or twice here throughout the season. Holy poo poo... They are seriously still making south park?
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SiKboy posted:Holy poo poo... They are seriously still making south park? South Park is still one of the most popular cartoons in existence and there are still legions of people that think quoting it makes for a sound political argument.
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ChesterJT posted:I don't really care much about character development or season story arch, I just found this season to be a little light on the jokes.
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May 28, 2017 19:52
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At the end of the day, I can still go back and rewatch the first few seasons of Archer and laugh my rear end off. I can't say that about the most recent seasons. That doesn't mean they're not entertaining in their own way, just not what brought me to Archer originally.
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May 28, 2017 22:09
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ChairMaster posted:I kinda wonder what people are expecting from like a comedy TV show that's about a group of criminals who pretend to be spies or private investigators and spend most of their time bickering with each other. It's just a fun thing to do with a group of characters you can put in a different setting because it's animated and your costs aren't that much higher if you wanna animate something different than before. Considering that they went for a continuous plot and the running length of the season was 160 minutes, I think it's fair to at least expect as much payoff as you would from a 2 hour movie. I liked the season a lot, but do think the last episode felt like a panicked wrap-up. Lana didn't need to exist at all for all the nowhere her role went, and the "Barry was the killer, and for no reason" revelation could have been funny but fell flat, maybe because there was no real sleuthing leading up to it. The Vandertunts more than made up for any narrative faults though.
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May 28, 2017 22:59
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Cheryl and Krieger were the best parts by far We also barely got any Ray outside of that one episode.
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ChairMaster posted:I kinda wonder what people are expecting from like a comedy TV show that's about a group of criminals who pretend to be spies or private investigators and spend most of their time bickering with each other. It's just a fun thing to do with a group of characters you can put in a different setting because it's animated and your costs aren't that much higher if you wanna animate something different than before. I think the idea is that this season was such an off the wall, different idea for the show, a lot of people were thinking, "I can't wait to see where they're taking this, and why they decided to go this way." Like it seemed clear from the beginning that this season had a purpose or point. And then the season ends and we're left with, "...because they wanted to." Which is fine, but I really thought there would be some payoff that would bring the season together. That didn't happen. Like I said earlier, I really enjoyed most of this season. But I was surprised when it ended and we were left with dropped plot threads and no resolution to the coma.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Cheryl and Krieger were the best parts by far I didn't really miss Ray.
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I missed Ray.
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taqueso posted:I missed Ray.
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We Know Catheters posted:I didn't really miss Ray. Dukes!
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We Know Catheters posted:I didn't really miss Ray. You're allowed to have a wrong opinion, but we're still going to laugh at you.
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taqueso posted:I missed Ray. Goddammit, I insist you let me share your marijuana cigarette!
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Great season, it works sooooo well as a binge watch. The only real problem for me is that they didnt stick the landing - shooting Lana esp didnt gel as well as the WTF of Lurch tearing the dogs apart. Ew. The end coda to Woodhouse's voice was nice buuuut I dunno the way it just simply petered out really made the season end on a weak note. Feels like they needed one more episode.
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Taerkar posted:You're allowed to have a wrong opinion, but we're still going to laugh at you.
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Taerkar posted:You're allowed to have a wrong opinion, but we're still going to laugh at you. And same to you.
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I think Ray is awesome but I also don't miss him when he's gone. Archer, Lana, Mallory, and Krieger are the only necessary components for me, basically any other set of major characters and those will work. I got tired of ultra cyborg Barry pretty quick when it first happened. For them to redo that plotline yet again was kinda boring. Though I did like the parts with Krieger and the Terminator references, the parts where the gang fights against him aren't as fun as the usual spy shenanigans are for me. I guess there is still the potential for the dream to affect the future plot. eg. Archer wakes up, finds out Woodhouse is dead, and there is no clue as to who did it. Archer had his dream Barry did it so that causes him to look into that angle and he has to work backwards into figuring out why his brain would assume Barry did it. I would have liked more insight into any potential ramifications this plot would have at the end of this season instead, but ah well. Considering last season ended on a cliffhanger I think this one being self-contained is not bad.
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I thought the Barry fight was better than usual, but I thought they were going to just shoot Barry Raiders Of The Lost Ark style at the beginning of the episode since his head/torso are still vulnerable and then they would have had the whole episode for plot (not that I cared. Chinatown has made me not expect resolution in noir). Barry blocking bullets like Wonder Woman was still funny though.
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I don't get why people were expecting some super intelligent conclusion to the woodhouse mystery, it's not like it was set up as remotely important, what with Archer constantly forgetting about it. All the world building was great, but I didn't expect some grand mystery to be unravelled. That said, the hair trigger scene was loving hilarious. Made me proper belly laugh, was not expecting it at all. I did feel a bit bad about the dog slaughter, but it was brilliantly done, and the animation was phenomenal. I think this season was a great tribute to Woodhouse's voice actor too, I wonder how he would feel about it.
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thrawn527 posted:I think the idea is that this season was such an off the wall, different idea for the show, a lot of people were thinking, "I can't wait to see where they're taking this, and why they decided to go this way." Like it seemed clear from the beginning that this season had a purpose or point. And then the season ends and we're left with, "...because they wanted to." Which is fine, but I really thought there would be some payoff that would bring the season together. That didn't happen.
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So I was watching Placebo Effect earlier and I kinda realized what made this show get worse for me. Which isn't to say it's bad now, just not as great. Firstly, the show being more experimental, while cool on its own, has made it more serious and less joke-dense. This isn't really Archer's lane. Season 8 is fine and all, but it just kind of cracks me up every now and then, whereas even rewatching Placebo Effect for the millionth time had me  ing from start to finish.Secondly, it's kind of lost its heart. The characters have kinda all lost their positive qualities over time and had their negative ones exaggerated; Archer, at first, was immature and boorish, but still pretty competent and fundamentally a decent person, but he's kind of stopped being competent and stopped being fundamentally decent. The Ruth B-plot in Placebo Effect doesn't gel with S7/S8 Archer, if that elucidates my point any. The side characters have all had similar things happen, to a varying extent (Pam still owns and Lana hasn't changed *too* much, and Krieger and Mallory were always the shittiest/most amoral people in the cast).
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:The Ruth B-plot in Placebo Effect doesn't gel with S7/S8 Archer, if that elucidates my point any. Disagree. Archer was visibly upset that the tranquilizers poisoned the dogs and made them sick in "The Handoff." He's still has a soft spot about certain things.
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The whole crux of the story of season 8 was that he hosed himself and everyone else over to save a truckload of Chinese women that he didn't know and would never see again.quote:"Well I'm sold!" That's one of my favorite lines in the show. ChairMaster fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jul 9, 2017 |
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Just finished watching it on Netflix. Loved the setting and athmosphere of the whole season. Also the Terminator references with Barry. I loved how the whole season was a result of Archer trying to half-rear end the investigation and just cling onto the first person who promises an easy answer, and that leads to all the troubles with the chinese ladies, Cheryl's not-kidnapping and facing a murderous The ending felt very noir in that he thought there might've been some deep reason behind Woodhouse's death, but it was only the result of a madman's whim.
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The quality of the animation has been improving steadily every season but this one felt like they took it to another level. The Barry chase scene was very well done. What did feel weird was that the way Lana gets shot mirrors Archer himself getting shot and he goes on a rant on how there's zero possibility she is anything but dead. I know they have already been renewed for a few more seasons prior to this one but it felt like they left it open to keep Archer out of the next one, or they weren't sure they were getting a renewel. It ending on a downer for some characters like Pam was very noir. Archers goodbye to Woodhouse was very touching imo as well.
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Titan posted:The quality of the animation has been improving steadily every season but this one felt like they took it to another level. The Barry chase scene was very well done. What did feel weird was that the way Lana gets shot mirrors Archer himself getting shot and he goes on a rant on how there's zero possibility she is anything but dead. I know they have already been renewed for a few more seasons prior to this one but it felt like they left it open to keep Archer out of the next one, or they weren't sure they were getting a renewel. I'm still a little confused about how Archer isn't dead. He wasn't shot and passed out. He was shot, and was lying face down in a pool while two cops shot the poo poo. Who presumably arrived at least a little while after he went in. Like, how long was he in there? I mean, I know it's a cartoon show, so who really cares. Just saying.
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We still don't know if that's the "Archer" that was in a coma technically. Randy the tow truck driver cold have been Archer and he's in a coma because of CO poisoning from his broken Italian sports car.
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bull3964 posted:We still don't know if that's the "Archer" that was in a coma technically. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. *Googles*  Ha, holy poo poo, that's awesome.
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thrawn527 posted:I don't know what the hell you're talking about. That would fit with his MO of running away every time poo poo gets too real for him. Would totally be in his character to have the two robots handle business while he runs off.
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Archer should have died from, like, a zillion things that have happened to him - cancer, getting shot, stabbed, beat up, infected with STDs, vast amounts of drugs, vast amounts of liquor, vast amounts of drugs and liquor, vast amounts of drugs and liquor and STDs... I'm just saying, let's not make assumptions here.
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They've just put out an Archer/Kingsman 2 crossover trailer if anyone was interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDih9OUaJHg
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that's cute, I guess. Now do U.N.C.L.E.
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On that note, here is a fan-made Archer/Bob's Burgers crossover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jinBlY9BpJ0
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Kesper North posted:On that note, here is a fan-made Archer/Bob's Burgers crossover: It's like, real real good for the first 45 seconds. Probably shoulda quit while they were ahead though.
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