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Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

as a splash star apologist even i can't believe that you would say it hit its stride there

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Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Aurora posted:

as a splash star apologist even i can't believe that you would say it hit its stride there

What’s to apologize for? It’s a criminally underrated season.

To it’s credit Splash Star did invent a lot of tropes that are now pretty commonplace in the franchise (such as form changes and villains that eventually become Cures or Cure like allies). Though where would you say it started to hit its stride then? Fresh?

Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 20, 2020

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Splash Star is a very underrated season and thankfully it's been freed from merchandise Jail it was in cause for the longest time it was the worst selling toy season. (and you wonder how much the series suffered cause Toei messed up in the second Futari Wa Movie)

Futari Wa and Splash Star hit there stride but they also do feel very different from Modern Precure. Fresh clearly started the more modern Form that's been tweaked (with Yes being a weird show that's somewhat between the Futari Wa/Spalsh Star norm and what became of Precure since Fresh)

Caithness
Nov 10, 2012

HEY!!!
YOU CAN SEE ME, CAN'T YOU? THEN WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME!?
Splash Star is my second favorite after Heartcatch. Good villains are important, and S⭐️S has the best.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Yes 5 has Bunbee and Urara going for it at the very least (also Gamao the angry frog hobo).

But yeah, aside from maybe the Bad End Trio from Smile Splash Star probably has some of the best (or at least most entertaining) villains in the franchise. Kintolesky deserved better though and I kind of wish the members of Dark Fall had gotten a chance to interact with each other more (it’s kind of funny how transparently they all hate one another).

Setting it in a fishing town near the beach was nice as well as it provided some fairly unique fight locations.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 00:42 on May 22, 2020

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Too bad the English version of the Mobage is closing cause this is the exact event I wanted

https://twitter.com/YameteTomete/status/1264136558736748544

Pikestaff
Feb 17, 2013

Came here to bark at you




https://twitter.com/OshieteHibiki/status/1264496245222936576?s=19

Healin' Good potentially coming back next month.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010


Huh, that was quicker than I thought. I still wouldn’t be surprised if we wind up losing an episode or two from the total run of the series because of this though.

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Tokyo is going to lift it's state of emergency soon and I also imagine Toei has probably switched over to work at home finally and can resume production safely

Now the big question is going to be is how much the show's plot is going to be reworked

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

SatoshiMiwa posted:

Tokyo is going to lift it's state of emergency soon and I also imagine Toei has probably switched over to work at home finally and can resume production safely

Now the big question is going to be is how much the show's plot is going to be reworked

We’ll likely probably wind up losing an episode or two but whether or not the show will be straight up retooled like Suite was remains to be seen (also you kind of can’t really get around the fact that the villains are literal avatars of disease).

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Yeah you might avoid rewrites just because its so baked into the premise

Though I really doubt youll get any more scenes of living animals/people being infected like you got with the rat

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Yeah, the whole thing Batetemoda mentioned about there potentially being more like him coming might not come to pass but I don’t think things will be altered too terribly much in this case.

At worst, maybe the Byogen will switch from infecting things to creating monsters some other way and using them to attack the Precure/random victims of the week directly.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

According to this it appears the show will be back June 7th to be exact, we’ll still need to wait for official confirmation though:

https://twitter.com/OshieteHibiki/status/1264776106625757185

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Unfortunately it appears the news reports are wrong and Healin Good will not be returning on June 7th. It’s just been confirmed that a rerun of episode 7 will air that day instead:

https://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/pr/contents/20200607_01832.html

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/1266727679551774721

Hiroshi Miyamoto, or better known as Gataypen is leaving Toei to focus on smaller projects. He's been one of the best 3D animators so it's a loss for Toei but looking forward to his works elsewhere and plus it looks like he may still do some
Precure work here and there (just on a smaller scale)

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

SatoshiMiwa posted:

https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/1266727679551774721

Hiroshi Miyamoto, or better known as Gataypen is leaving Toei to focus on smaller projects. He's been one of the best 3D animators so it's a loss for Toei but looking forward to his works elsewhere and plus it looks like he may still do some
Precure work here and there (just on a smaller scale)
The past tense made me worried he'd passed, so I'm really glad he's just moving onto other projects. Agreed that I'm looking forward to his future work.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Out of curiosity, have any of Toei’s shows come back from hiatus yet? I know a few others from different studios have at least.

But at the current rate they’re rerunning episodes it’s possible that Healin Good may be back by mid to late June at the earliest.

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Larryb posted:

Out of curiosity, have any of Toei’s shows come back from hiatus yet? I know a few others from different studios have at least.

But at the current rate they’re rerunning episodes it’s possible that Healin Good may be back by mid to late June at the earliest.

According to the digimon thread, Digimon Adventure: is restarting from ep 1 next week, which would line up with new episodes (ep 4) starting by the end of June.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Julias posted:

According to the digimon thread, Digimon Adventure: is restarting from ep 1 next week, which would line up with new episodes (ep 4) starting by the end of June.

Healin Good is also rerunning episodes (episode 7 airs on June 7th as I mentioned). Not sure if they’re going in order with that as well but if so then we likely wouldn’t see any new episodes until at least July 19th. We’ll see of course.


That aside this is likely gonna mess with the usual schedule a bit, meaning they’ll either need to chop out a few episodes here and there to get things back on track or less likely the show gets extended and the 2021 season just starts a little later in the year than usual.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jun 1, 2020

Captain Cappy
Aug 7, 2008

Does Gatyapen leaving mean the endings won't be 100 fire anymore?

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

I believe the servers for the Precure mobile game have officially shut down now. I’m still hoping they come out with something else to replace it one day, especially since I don’t think we’ve had a Precure game in general since Hugtto (and a large majority of those were just minigame collections).

Come to think of it, outside of Puzzlun are there any decent Precure games out there (anywhere from Futari to present)?

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Please make a Precure musou, you can even have it so Precure are just fighting bad guys Toei!

blossommirage
Nov 7, 2012

I think a Precure RPG would be dope as hell but insanely unmarketable.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

SatoshiMiwa posted:

Please make a Precure musou, you can even have it so Precure are just fighting bad guys Toei!

A fighting game of some kind would be perfect for this series given the wide variety of characters and movesets but somehow it doesn’t seem that likely. But yeah, they don’t necessarily have to be fighting each other if you don’t want. Maybe do something similar to the Kamen Rider Battride War games or something.

I imagine some of the earlier Precure games (such as those released on GBA and/or DS) might still be available via emulation at least. Are any of them actually worth playing though?

Larryb fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Jun 2, 2020

Pikestaff
Feb 17, 2013

Came here to bark at you




Yeah yesterday was the last day for the puzzle game :( I'm gonna miss it.

I've emulated the Futari wa Precure and Max Heart games for GBA and Nintendo DS. The GBA games are playable but not very exciting puzzle platformers. The DS game is a beat 'em up in the style of Streets of Rage and is pretty fun but unfortunately none of the emulators I've tried can run it very well, although others might have more luck than I have.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Pikestaff posted:

Yeah yesterday was the last day for the puzzle game :( I'm gonna miss it.

I've emulated the Futari wa Precure and Max Heart games for GBA and Nintendo DS. The GBA games are playable but not very exciting puzzle platformers. The DS game is a beat 'em up in the style of Streets of Rage and is pretty fun but unfortunately none of the emulators I've tried can run it very well, although others might have more luck than I have.

So at what point did the games just become a bunch of minigame collections?

Larryb fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jun 2, 2020

Elephant Parade
Jan 20, 2018

is it really devolution when minigame collections are something the primary target audience likes

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Elephant Parade posted:

is it really devolution when minigame collections are something the primary target audience likes

Fair enough. I was just curious if there were any other platformer/beat em up games past Max Heart. I heard there was a Yes 5 game that was technically the first crossover event in the franchise but I know nothing about it past that.

Also, why didn’t Star Twinkle get a game? The concept seems almost tailor made for one.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jun 2, 2020

Pikestaff
Feb 17, 2013

Came here to bark at you




Larryb posted:

So at what point did the games just become a bunch of minigame collections?

Fresh maybe? Though even the Max Heart Nintendo DS game came with a bunch of minigames. But yeah, it's not surprising seeing as the target audience is five year olds. One of the rumors for why the mobile game was eventually canned is because it was aimed at kids, but kids are the least likely to spend money on a gacha game. You can only beg your parents for app money so many times.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Pikestaff posted:

Fresh maybe? Though even the Max Heart Nintendo DS game came with a bunch of minigames. But yeah, it's not surprising seeing as the target audience is five year olds. One of the rumors for why the mobile game was eventually canned is because it was aimed at kids, but kids are the least likely to spend money on a gacha game. You can only beg your parents for app money so many times.

Looking it up on YouTube, it appears that only the Futari Wa/Max Heart games were action oriented. Everything from Splash Star onward is just minigames (and it doesn’t seem that Maho Girls, KiraKira or Star Twinkle ever got a game at all apart from showing up in Puzzlun).

That said, the Yes 5 GoGo DS game does apparently have some boss battles at least that are fought in a very basic Street Fighter esque setup (you can jump, punch, kick, switch between Cures with the touch screen and I think each one has at least one special attack as well).

Larryb fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 3, 2020

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

A toy listing recently popped up revealing the weapon name of our upcoming fourth Healin Good Cure:

https://imgur.com/rq2zbA9

So I guess this proves that Asumi is a wind based Cure. Still not entirely sure why she’s called “Cure Earth” in that case though

Larryb fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jun 4, 2020

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Update: According to the listings, Healin' Good will still be in rerun mode up until at least the first week of July. Rider and Sentai will be back on air by then, so I hope that Healin' Good can resume sooner rather than later. Really been missing Nodoka and company.

This likely means it’ll probably back around July 19th or so assuming they’re rerunning all the episodes in order like they’re doing with Digimon.

When the show does come back though I’m curious how they’re going to handle the 3 or so months worth of episodes they lost (that is, whether the show will get its total episode count cut or if the 2021 series will just get pushed back a month or two).

I’m also kind of curious what they’re going to do about Miracle Leap (the movie is basically done so I imagine it’ll be released in some format at least).

panic state
Jun 11, 2019



Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


In today’s episode of Mahou Shounen, oh...oh. :smith:

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Japanese TV listings say that the reruns are suddenly jumping ahead to episode 12 this weekend (and episode 3 of Digimon Adventure: will also air that day). We’ll still have to wait for official confirmation of course but there’s a possibility that Healin Good might be back as early as the 28th.

Also, thanks to this post I found on Reddit we now have a clear answer as to what Hasbro owns when it comes to Glitter Force (and as I expected it isn’t much):

quote:

Hasbro hasn't done anything with Pretty Cure because all they own is the distribution rights to the first Glitter Force dub, which is all that Saban owned after they transferred ownership of the Glitter Force trademark to Toei some time between the first Glitter Force and Doki Doki.

They have no other rights to anything relating to the franchise, there's a reason why the Glitter Force website says 'TM & © Toei Animation. All Rights Reserved' with no actual mentioning of Hasbro (despite the site being a subdomain of Hasbro.com)

In fact, you can actually see this if you check the Glitter Force website on the Internet Archive:

15 November 2015 (earliest archived version) says TM & © 2015 SCG Characters LLC:

https://web.archive.org/web/20151115084558/http://www.glitterforce.com/

20 August 2017 still says SCG Characters LLC despite being after the transfer of the Glitter Force trademarks to Toei

https://web.archive.org/web/20170820151242/http://www.glitterforce.com/

27 August 2017 only a week later but the trademark information has been updated to say TM & © 2017 Toei Animation Co., Ltd. All Rights Reserved.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170827010740/http://www.glitterforce.com/

13 August 2018 the last time the site was available on GlitterForce.com before it started getting redirected to the current Hasbro website, the site is still promoting Glitter Force Doki Doki

https://web.archive.org/web/20180813151546/http://www.glitterforce.com/

16 September 2018 - the earliest archived version of Hasbro's Glitter Force site, the site only promotes the first Glitter Force with no mentioning of Doki Doki because Hasbro has no rights to that season.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180916130426/https://glitterforce.hasbro.com/en-us

And also the obligatory note that just owning the distribution rights in some form =/= being able to make merchandise of something because merchandising rights are a completely separate thing and, again, Hasbro only owns the distribution rights to the first season because obviously Saban didn't have merch rights to the franchise.

Edit: As someone on Twitter pointed out to me, a trademark relating to Glitter Force merchandise was registered in the United States in 2017 owned by Toei, but it was marked as abandoned in November 2018. So you know, yeah Hasbro has literally no rights to produce Glitter Force merch.

So yeah, another dubbed season isn’t too likely at this point unless Toei sells the license over to someone else.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jun 15, 2020

Pikestaff
Feb 17, 2013

Came here to bark at you




France is getting an official French sub of Futari wa Precure this week, which possibly bodes well for the future and us seeing more languages and/or a better official English dub? Or it could just be a one-off thing.

https://twitter.com/ADNanime/status/1272620107873697792

and something a little fun: this shop is holding a poll where you vote for your favorite Cure by putting a sticker next to their name. For the most part it's polling out similar to the Big Precure Vote last year, so big winners are Black, White, Peace, Marine, Dream, and Passion. I was kind of surprised by the big turnout for Milky Rose, but I know Yes5 has always been a lot more popular in Japan than it seems to be with the foreign fanbase.

Nice to see every Cure getting at least a couple of votes, though. (Egret too - hard to see because they're using white stickers, but you can see if you zoom in.)

https://twitter.com/heart_goes__on/status/1272027939085770752

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

The Ocean produced Futari Wa dub is honestly probably the best of the three, though that’s not saying much given its competition. But for some reason it never made it out of Canada and the UK (or even to DVD for that matter).

Weirdly, the aforementioned French sub was first advertised as being a sub of KiraKira (they even had an English logo made up and everything). Not entirely sure how they could have made a mistake like that to be honest.


Off the subject, I don’t think I ever watched Cardcaptor Sakura. Does it still hold up alright?

Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jun 15, 2020

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Hopefully that does mean Toei is more open about releasing the series, and they probably do need to some foreign stuff and it and Kamen Rider are probably don't have much room for growth in toy sales in Japan.


Cure Milky being the most popular of the more recent cures is good as Milky is really good

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Some snippets from the Healin Good vocal album:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0tkZ4ueonzU

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panic state
Jun 11, 2019



Larryb posted:

Off the subject, I don’t think I ever watched Cardcaptor Sakura. Does it still hold up alright?

It's pretty good, very wholesome. Some of the characters seem a bit annoying at first but you'll like em by the end. Sakura wears a new costume every episode, no reusing transformation sequences here. The show has some interesting relationships, everyone has someone they care about. Also everybody has long legs.

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