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Super Mario 64 really did showcase a huge step beyond the SNES to N64 era, but I couldn't vote for it simply because as a 3D platformer it wasn't the best game for that console (but yes, it did come first). Anyways, voted Tetris.
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At first, the highest pick of SM64 surprised me, but then it didn't. That likely happened when the majority of us were young teenagers, and we really appreciated a system launch. The SNES, Genesis, or NES were probably just a little bit too early for many of us. I waited in a line outside Toys R Us for a N64, and it felt like I was living in a dream when I brought it back home. It was too good, too much fun to be real.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 02:08 |
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Rogue squadron on gcn
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 02:28 |
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Please do your best to remember how bad the N64 controller was and how that impacts the entertainment value of SM64.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 02:42 |
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Voted Halo and I'm not necessarily a fan of the game. There are better games on that list, full stop. Various Mario games, Tetris, Zelda, etc. are all games I had more fun with, but none of those I think were as important to their system as Halo was to the original XBox. Hell, without Halo, Microsoft would have been a one-and-done system manufacturer. For the same reasons, I almost voted Wii Sports instead but I think it led to more negatives with other minigame focused shovelware coming out because of the popularity of that game.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 03:12 |
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Maybe could have voted Halo if not for the shameful imbalance of Pistol Supremacy.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 03:30 |
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It's a tough choice depending on how you wanna look at the question and meaning of "best". I chose Super Mario 64 as a personal option because it was seriously one of the biggest impact releases on my childhood. Renting an N64 with Wave Race and Mario 64 until it was eventually purchased was pretty much THE memory in that time of my life. Can't say it's objectively a better game than anything on that list, but at the time it was basically a mind blowing new world for me. I honestly think Wii Sports is a really huge honorable mention. Not because it was a mind blowing set of a mini games on its own, but because it was a pre-packaged goldmine for Nintendo that influenced a TON of poo poo. Never before has a release game made so much publicity and wide-spread appeals, everyone knew what the hell a Wii was, even if only for the motion games. Copying Nintendo is nothing new, but this release game, and the Wii as a whole, basically forced the hand of Sony and Microsoft to follow suit. The power of Wii Sports single handedly caused business to attempt to match or best them and that makes it deserve at least some recognition in that respect.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 03:40 |
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Looking at that list, Super Mario World stands out as the most fun. Like, if you showed me that list of games and asked me to pick which one I'd most want to play right now, I'd pick SMW seven or eight times out of ten, so that's what I voted for. But Super Mario Bros and Super Mario 64 were more innovative and almost certainly did more to define their respective consoles and generations of gaming than SMW did.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 03:41 |
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Blazing Lasers. Made NES look like a DECROTED PIECE OF CRAP!!!!
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 03:57 |
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new phone who dis posted:Please do your best to remember how bad the N64 controller was and how that impacts the entertainment value of SM64. I was 13, it was 3D, I wouldn't have cared if the controller was made out of rusty razor blades and AIDS.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 04:25 |
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imo the best launch games for consideration here showcase the potential of a new gen but then also are so good they are unmatched for the entire gen in one or more aspects mario 64 achieves this in playcontrol. nothing else on that system feels as good as mario rogue squadron did it in graphics on the cube. there are further examples.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 04:32 |
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new phone who dis posted:Please do your best to remember how bad the N64 controller was and how that impacts the entertainment value of SM64. I remember the N64 controller was fine so long as you didn't hold it like a total moron, so... yeah the winner is still Mario 64. Donkey Kong for Coleco was a pretty good get for the time. Even if it barely aged well, that's a pretty solid attack on the competition.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 05:09 |
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Ps1, battle arena toshinden. I was 11 years old and that poo poo blew my mind.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 05:28 |
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Wasn't in Twisted Metal: Black a launch title for the PS2? If so that would definitely get some recognition. I don't think it's better than Super Mario World and Super Mario 64 but it's definitely a strong title.
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I would say Super Mario Bros or Super Mario World way before 64, but then again I've never really found that game enjoyable and I'm just gonna assume most of you whipper snappers were like 10 or 11 when the N64 came out. Between those two I would probably go with SMB because I still enjoy the simplicity of it and while I played the poo poo out of SMW when I was a kid, I'm not really crazy about it when I play it these days. But Tetris beats them both.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 07:17 |
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Mario World over 64 obviously. 64 was a good 3d mario game, but every other 3d Mario was poo poo awful and the franchise slunk back to where the money is made. SMW is still probably the standard for tight platformer controls. 64 also is all one big 3d world collectathon, something most folks can't stand now.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 07:26 |
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How come the PS3 is listed (with a dire and boring game to boot) and the 360 isnt? Both Resistance and Perfect Dark Zero were as crap as each other My vote was for Halo, I was going to pick SMW but the LAN parties and social camaraderie of Halo back in its heydey pips it for me.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 07:58 |
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I'd say it's Mario 64 but Super Mario World is close behind.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 08:49 |
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My Nvidia RIVA TNT 2 card launched with Mechwarrior 2. It had 32 megabytes of EXPLOSIVELY REAL vram. Edit: but to contribute, I think Mario World holds up the best after all this time but Mario 64 set the bar for platformers, 3D games, games of that generation, Nintendo 64 games, mascot games...
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 09:29 |
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Ah, you've got me thinking about the first time I booted up Quake 2 with my brand new video card. Also an Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra. Good heavens what an amazing change!
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credburn posted:Edit: but to contribute, I think Mario World holds up the best after all this time but Mario 64 set the bar for platformers, 3D games, games of that generation, Nintendo 64 games, mascot games... I'd make a similar argument for Halo and modern FPS games, but that's very much a "for better or worse" case - Mario was a marked improvement on the tank-controls setup commonly used for 3D platformers beforehand. Harlock posted:The 32X launched with Doom and The Xbox 1 launched with Tony Hawk 2 Tony Hawk 2X was a great version of the first two Tony Hawk games (updated versions of all the TH1 maps were included), but Tony Hawk 3 was already out on PS2 so it felt a bit outdated and... well... as much as I like Tony Hawk 2, it doesn't really stand in the company of the rest of this thread.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 10:05 |
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Mario 64 was prolly also the first game, or first good game, most people played w/ an analog stick controller I don't like it as much as the classic 2D or modern 3D Marios but if you're voting based on things like the most influential or important launch title I think there's a good case for it
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 10:07 |
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i'm the first person to vote for riiidge racer??? shameful
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 11:22 |
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new phone who dis posted:Please do your best to remember how bad the N64 controller was and how that impacts the entertainment value of SM64. god shut up you loving idiot (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 11:23 |
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According to wikipedia, Link's Awakening DX was a 3DS Virtual Console "launch title", so that.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 12:01 |
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new phone who dis posted:Please do your best to remember how bad the N64 controller was and how that impacts the entertainment value of SM64. I read that the game was designed (in terms of control) based on the pad design though, the movement tweaked based on what the pad would actually allow. If you've tried playing the DS version of 64 using either the d-pad or the horrible slide analogue then you'd see that N64 pad is actually perfect for the game.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 13:14 |
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blamegame posted:god shut up you loving idiot yes that's right, don't probate the person who thought the n64 controller was bad, probate the person who called them out mods like the dreamcast and NES controllers, pass it on
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:yes that's right, don't probate the person who thought the n64 controller was bad, probate the person who called them out I adore the NES controller! No shame here!!!
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 13:21 |
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new phone who dis posted:Please do your best to remember how bad the N64 controller was and how that impacts the entertainment value of SM64. The N64 controller is still my favourite controller of all time.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 13:31 |
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The stick in the center of the N64 controller was terrible and whoever said it was fine as long as you didn't hold the controller like a retard forgets you were actually forced to hold it like a retard by design. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 13:49 |
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I totally get the arguments for Super Mario World and Super Mario 64 (and even Wii Sports to a certain extent), but even SM64's impact on the industry is nothing compared to the original Super Mario Bros. The very videogame industry itself might look very different today if not for the NES, and it's doubtful the NES would have taken off as well as it had without the gaming titan of the 1980s.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 14:06 |
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wtf it's Altered Beast
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 14:26 |
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Super Mario 64 was groundbreaking at the time and is still pretty fun to play today.new phone who dis posted:The stick in the center of the N64 controller was terrible and whoever said it was fine as long as you didn't hold the controller like a retard forgets you were actually forced to hold it like a retard by design. look here you son of a bitch I and the other three armed people that work at Nintendo found it perfectly natural to hold
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McSpanky posted:I totally get the arguments for Super Mario World and Super Mario 64 (and even Wii Sports to a certain extent), but even SM64's impact on the industry is nothing compared to the original Super Mario Bros. The very videogame industry itself might look very different today if not for the NES, and it's doubtful the NES would have taken off as well as it had without the gaming titan of the 1980s.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 14:45 |
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Mario 64 was maybe the first time it really felt like you were in control of an actual little guy in an actual 3d space, it really changed the whole gaming landscape. Anyway NextGen agrees with me
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a kitten posted:Mario 64 was maybe the first time it really felt like you were in control of an actual little guy in an actual 3d space, it really changed the whole gaming landscape. "rings"? I think NextGen accidentally played a Sonic game
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 15:53 |
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Hahaha, that's hilarious and I somehow haven't noticed in the 20 years since that issue came out. I still have it, it's a pretty great list of 100 awesome games up to that point.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 16:02 |
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I voted for Mario 64 but after thinking about it a bit more, Super Mario Bros is actually the only possible correct answer.
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# ? Apr 11, 2017 16:15 |
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It's a pretty small pool since not many consoles have had very good launch lineups, and even fewer have come with pack-in games, so the answer is really based on which Nintendo console you liked best between the NES, SNES, N64, Wii, or Gameboy. (I guess you could also include Gamecube in this list, but I don't see anyone nominating Luigi's Mansion in the running for the greatest.) raditts fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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The thing about SM64 that amazes me today is how you can still go back and play it and it's totally solid despite being a vanguard 3D title. 20-odd years later it doesn't feel unrefined or primitive like other groundbreakers such as SMB or Goldeneye.
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