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Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011


neither is necessary. the trial of the fool is, though. you also need to talk to the seer with 2400 essence. those are the most obscure i can think of off the top of my head

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Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

So I got to 300 thanks to elder hu and went and explored kingdoms edge and found the coliseum. I also have two of the three nailmasters(Sheo and Oro). It's looking like my options now are either Deepnest or the Sewers. Can I get to the final nailmaster with what I have right now or should I pursue one of these two paths?

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Yeah, he is in a somewhat hidden zone but you only need dash and wall jump to get to him.

END CHEMTRAILS NOW
Apr 15, 2005



Zaggitz posted:

So I got to 300 thanks to elder hu and went and explored kingdoms edge and found the coliseum. I also have two of the three nailmasters(Sheo and Oro). It's looking like my options now are either Deepnest or the Sewers. Can I get to the final nailmaster with what I have right now or should I pursue one of these two paths?
Since you've been in Kingdom's Edge, I assume you've been to King's Station? Unless there's a lock I'm forgetting, you should be able to head downward from City of Tears to reach Ancient Basin as well.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

END CHEMTRAILS NOW posted:

Since you've been in Kingdom's Edge, I assume you've been to King's Station? Unless there's a lock I'm forgetting, you should be able to head downward from City of Tears to reach Ancient Basin as well.

Ah yeah i started down the path to that but backtracked to check out Kingdom's edge instead. I'll probably hit up the sewers after work and then flip a coin for deepnest or basin.

Dancer
May 23, 2011


Zaggitz posted:

Ah yeah i started down the path to that but backtracked to check out Kingdom's edge instead. I'll probably hit up the sewers after work and then flip a coin for deepnest or basin.

Minor spoilers for where to find stuff: other than a Pale Ore, and a crucial plot progression thing that you don't care about if you're not rushing to finish the game, there's really nothing interesting in Deepnest. Not saying you shouldn't go, it's really atmospheric and fun imo, but if you don't like it, you can avoid going in there for a good long time

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

I'm not in any big rush to clear anything just having fun exploring and getting new powers.

The only thing I wanna make sure I don't screw up is the little npc story lines so I'm avoiding bosses until I've been anywhere in an area i would expect to be able to talk to someone.

hampig
Feb 11, 2004
...curioser and curioser...

Dancer posted:

Multiple people have found that boss to be a particularly hard fight for when you meet him. And yes, there will be a few other difficulty spikes along the way. The good news is that you don't actually *need* to kill him to actually progress for a good long time, and some things you can get, particularly nail upgrades, tend to make boss fights a *lot* easier. (For reference: you start with 5 nail damage, and get +4 per upgrade. So the first upgrade, that you probably had, almost doubled your damage, and two upgrades from now it will be doubled again).

As to what else you can do right now: Farm up enough geo to buy the lumafly lantern from Sly if you don't have it yet, then head East from the Crossroads

Edit: Come to think of it, the area you will get to if you follow the instructions in my spoiler will also be a good indicator of if you can handle the platforming. If you get there and it feels too hard (which it might), then maybe yeah, stop while you're ahead. The game has lots of good things going for it, but they're pointless if you're too frustrated to be able to enjoy them.

Trip report: followed your suggestion and then powered through the game to 95% completion, good tip! Amazing exploration and characters, fun combat, gorgeous art and world, incredible atmosphere, what a game.

Got halfway through the White Palace and then realised it has none of those things, so that's the game for me, but I feel like I got what I wanted out of the game anyway.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This user's endless pedantry is kept grey.

Key words: nutrition, philosophy, regulatory science, law, shallow realpolitik, fake cheese, game design fanfiction.

Hey, buzzsaws are an incredible atmosphere

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008





The White Palace is a good and fun place.

I Said No
May 21, 2007



Enjoy the nice glowy scenery and the calm atmospheric that will lull you to sleBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused


White Defender should have thrown dung covered sawblades at you.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011


the maggot pits in deepnest should be replaced with buzzsaw piles

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013


Hornet's fight should be replaced by a buzzsaw suspended on a string.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009


The hive should have been a group of carpenter bees with table saws and band saws and sawblades everywhere

I Said No
May 21, 2007



Instead of riding the stag between stations you should just have to nailjump on a sawblade the entire way there.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011


with how bleak the game is overall i was half expecting the last stag to die at some point and leave me walking the stagways alone

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Deepnest

The sound design on the spider zombie things sends chills down my spine.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

Don't talk to me or my fish ever again!


Just finished this game over the weekend. One of the best 2d platformers I've played in a long time.

Also, Dung Defender is awesome, even though I'm unclear on what the switch after you fight him does.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.

SirPhoebos posted:

Just finished this game over the weekend. One of the best 2d platformers I've played in a long time.

Also, Dung Defender is awesome, even though I'm unclear on what the switch after you fight him does.

It lowers the acid level which opens up the room that holds the acid-resistance item.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

Don't talk to me or my fish ever again!


Discovered the White Palace, and I gotta respect the game going all Kaizo

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

My weekend is Monday/Tuesday so I ended up spending those days just absolutely tearing through the entirety of this game. 100% completion with all the superbosses fought. What an amazing game. The visuals for the final boss were so cool.

Also white palace rules and is good.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

From a lore perspective my one disappointment with the game is that you never really get to do anything with the last great knight. You fight Hegemol's armor, interact with isma and zemer for powerups and of course orgrim is the DD. Hopefully Dryya gets some kind of DLC fight.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008





I hope the Hornet DLC is a prequel and you encounter all 5 knights.

Confer
Feb 28, 2017



SirSamVimes posted:

I hope the Hornet DLC is a prequel and you encounter all 5 knights.

Will the Hornet playstyle be similar to what we have now or is it going to be entirely different? Or do we still not have much information?

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Soho Joe
Aug 11, 2006

hey corgeous


If you break a secret barrier with the one move, and you also did that quest, you can hear a mournful bug whimper:

~i hope hornet can cancel her dash into an attack~

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