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Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
GM and Standard Oil knew the dangers of adding tetraethyl lead to gasoline, but went through with it anyway because it could be patented, unlike alcohol-derived additives such as ethanol or methanol. The addition of shitloads of lead to the environment, especially in dense urban areas, was partially responsible for the sudden increase in crime in big cities. The phasing out of lead in gasoline in the 70's was partially what lead to the sudden drop of crime in the 90's. Broken Window Theory didn't do jack poo poo.

The CIA is institutionally focused towards short term goals and so everything they do is for short term gain and it ends up causing more problems in the long run. Any coverups are because the people involved are trying to cover their own asses.

The TV broadcasts for the early Apollo missions, and especially Apollo 12 where the astronauts actually broke the TV cameras, were partially faked by the TV networks so that they'd have SOMETHING to show to the people watching on TV during times when the astronauts weren't broadcasting TV, even though the air to ground voice communication and film photos and 16mm footage was genuine.

Bush and Cheney didn't take the threat of Al Qaeda seriously when they came into office, Cheney was focused on Iraq and Hussein as the only major threat to US interests, and Bush was concerned about domestic issues. Bush's reshuffling of the FBI in the wake of the Robert Hanssen scandal very early on in the Bush admin pulled the field agents who had been tracking the hijackers off of surveillance of them, leading to several of them slipping the net.

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Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
to be clear, I don't think it was deliberate malice on the part of the fbi that lead to 9/11 happening. just incompetence.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
also, ahmed chalabi made a career out of telling warhawks what they wanted to hear about iraq's wmd program. even when the information he was supplying was being pulled straight out of his rear end.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
Shortly after FDR was elected, a group of businessmen were very concerned that his New Deal programs were going to hurt their bottom line financially. So they approached Marine Corps Major-General Smedley Butler and told him that they had recruited 500,000 ex-WWI veterans (they didn't) and said "hey would you mind leading them in a coup so we can overthrow Roosevelt and get rid of all this New Deal poo poo that's going to make us not-quite-as-rich, maybe have a difference president who's a bit more fash?"

So of course, Butler did the right thing, said "what the actual gently caress is this poo poo?" and blabbed it to the press and congress, who started a committee to investigate it, which sadly ended up becoming the predecessor to the more infamous HUAC in the 1950's.

Instant Sunrise has issued a correction as of 23:17 on Sep 13, 2017

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Sheogorath posted:

the moon landing was real, but they forgot to take the lens cap off the cameras so all the pictures and video had to be faked to avoid national embarrassment

Pete Conrad and Al Bean did break the TV Camera on Apollo 12 by pointing it at the sun. So the TV Networks had to fake a lot of that landing with actors mimicking the real astronauts on tv stages.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Zeroisanumber posted:

Our politics are dumb because the entire Boomer generation was poisoned by leaded gasoline when they were growing up, and most of their children were poisoned too.

You read that Mother Jones article as well?

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Zeroisanumber posted:

I read an article about how all the kids of that generation were poisoned, I don't remember if it was from MJ or not. Got me thinking that smoothbrains might be a symptom of heavy metal poisoning.

Of course, I was born in 1978, so that means that I'd be poisoned too, but maybe not as bad.

Was it this one?

Lead: America's Real Criminal Element

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Baloogan posted:

most security cameras connected to the internet are able to be watched by just about anybody at any time

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Ron Jeremy posted:

Wall Street decided to go all in and let poo poo crash once it was clear that McCain wasn't going to win in order to tie the hands and budget of the democratic president.

similarly, George Bush put troops in Somalia in 92 as a gently caress you very much to Clinton on his way out the door.

The CIA played Kennedy and Eisenhower off of each other about Bay of Pigs by telling Kennedy that Eisenhower had approved it already (when he actually hadn't) in order to get the go-ahead, because they knew that neither Kennedy nor Eisenhower would have approved it if they had been up-front about it.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
That or when the information on it gets old enough to be declassified and FOIA-able.

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Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
Here's a bizarrely mundane theory I just heard for the Kennedy assassination.

Kennedy wasn't Oswald's target at all, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Lee Harvey Oswald was actually trying to kill Governor Connally because he had a grudge against him for brushing off his request to have Marines to change his discharge status back to honorable from undesirable. (Oswald was originally given an honorable discharge, then when he defected to the USSR after his discharge, it was changed after the fact to undesirable, and he wanted to change it back to honorable so he could actually get a job)

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