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this is a stickup posted:generally speaking I agree with you on kash, but this post is pinging me pretty hard as well tbh Yeah this feels like a follow-up to however many times IS has posted how super-VT he is. There's a "no true Scotsman" vibe coming off it.
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Max posted:Wouldn't it be just as easy for him to claim VT? or anything, really, since half of the game was janitored
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May 11, 2017 03:40
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Max posted:Wouldn't it be just as easy for him to claim VT? You'd think so, but then why hasn't he?
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May 11, 2017 03:42
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Samfucius posted:Yeah this feels like a follow-up to however many times IS has posted how super-VT he is. I'm not following your meaning with that reference.
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May 11, 2017 03:43
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Samfucius posted:Yeah this feels like a follow-up to however many times IS has posted how super-VT he is. i think you're actually the othe rperson employing the most moon logic
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May 11, 2017 03:44
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IllegallySober posted:I'm not following your meaning with that reference. It's a je-ne-sais-quoi sort of thing, but IS talked about being VT a handful of times in the last few pages, and then hammers on Kash for not. At this point in the game, a VT claim is pretty much meaningless. It just feels like a really arbitrary bit of differentiation, especially when he doubles down on it as though it really means something. The no true scotsman thing was supposed to be IS saying "no true townie doesn't claim vt over and over" which I now realize isn't an entirely correct use of no true scotsman, I guess what I was going for was "gatekeeper." IS is trying to be the gatekeeper of what town does, in reference to something that is totally meaningless right now.
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May 11, 2017 03:50
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I'm not voting IS but he definitely isn't reaching me with his arguments.
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May 11, 2017 03:51
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8 minutes to go ##vote stickup not impressed with last two game-days
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May 11, 2017 03:53
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Samfucius posted:It's a je-ne-sais-quoi sort of thing, but IS talked about being VT a handful of times in the last few pages, and then hammers on Kash for not. At this point in the game, a VT claim is pretty much meaningless. It just feels like a really arbitrary bit of differentiation, especially when he doubles down on it as though it really means something. I didn't come right out originally and claim VT but the first time I was directly asked if I visited someone, I did. I believe Max did something similar. Kash had an entirely different reaction. I think there's a reason. I don't think I'm trying to be the gatekeeper of anything. I'm providing my opinion backed up by logic but I can see how it could come off that way when no one else is really providing any other direction either. I assume we are at lylo (dangerous assumption in an Ecco game, but, you know). If no one else is going to push a read, I'm going to state my own. I guess my question for you would be this- do you have reasons to feel that Kash ISN'T either the scum or the SK? (Calling it that for the sake of argument- call it "responsible for the other death" if you like).
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May 11, 2017 03:55
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Sam dropping on someone else makes me feel like he's deffo town at this point (I know, obvious) Deadline is also floating, we have a little wiggle room.
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May 11, 2017 03:56
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Samfucius posted:It's a je-ne-sais-quoi sort of thing, but IS talked about being VT a handful of times in the last few pages, and then hammers on Kash for not. At this point in the game, a VT claim is pretty much meaningless. It just feels like a really arbitrary bit of differentiation, especially when he doubles down on it as though it really means something. Samfucius posted:I'm not voting IS but he definitely isn't reaching me with his arguments. so do you think IS is lying or being ingenuous here, or not?
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May 11, 2017 03:56
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IllegallySober posted:I didn't come right out originally and claim VT but the first time I was directly asked if I visited someone, I did. I believe Max did something similar. Kash had an entirely different reaction. I think there's a reason. No, and I will switch if I have to.
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May 11, 2017 03:57
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this is a stickup posted:so do you think IS is lying or being ingenuous here, or not? Not really, feels more like a bad tone argument which is a null tell. I'm saying it's not working.
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May 11, 2017 03:58
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Max, what's your thoughts?
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May 11, 2017 03:59
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Who else isn't currently voting? Gulag and Stick?
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May 11, 2017 04:00
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IllegallySober posted:Who else isn't currently voting? Gulag and Stick? max, gulag, stick
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May 11, 2017 04:01
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Bleh. I feel in my gut that Kash is town, unless he's actually mega lurking right now. Scum Kash probably wouldn't peace out like this. Maybe. I really am at a bit of a loss.
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May 11, 2017 04:06
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GulagDolls posted:i think you're actually the othe rperson employing the most moon logic Can you elaborate on this?
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May 11, 2017 04:10
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Max posted:Bleh. Do you have any reason other than a gut feeling to think that way? (That's not me being snarky, I'm asking an honest question.)
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May 11, 2017 04:12
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Vote stickup, he focused non-stop on the easiest player to do so to (TM) and only really explored other options when the thread came up with them first. That and he just left for a while. He's not engaged here at all.
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May 11, 2017 04:14
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Samfucius posted:Vote stickup, he focused non-stop on the easiest player to do so to (TM) and only really explored other options when the thread came up with them first. My general sense of stickup is that he doesn't particularly care who lives and dies and especially after Hats' flip- which is kinda why I like him for the SK/assassin/whatever pick. I'm not opposed to going that way if you guys agree.
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May 11, 2017 04:16
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I can assure you that if I was scum or the sk, I would be extremely engaged with the thread
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May 11, 2017 04:17
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Going back to look real quick. His disappearance from the thread was right before/during Hats' flip, wasn't it?
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May 11, 2017 04:17
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No, not particularly. I see he was tired of Pmom but he probably would have taken care of that problem earlier had he been in control of a night kill. Stickup . . . I dunno, maybe.
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May 11, 2017 04:17
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this is a stickup posted:I can assure you that if I was scum or the sk, I would be extremely engaged with the thread Yeah I'm having trouble reconciling this fact. I went head to head with him in a 3 man lylo with him as the SK and he came out swinging for that one. I know meta and he could change his play but mmmmmmm.
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May 11, 2017 04:19
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this is a stickup posted:I can assure you that if I was scum or the sk, I would be extremely engaged with the thread More than 80% of your posts (and you have lots of them) are from before the queen was killed. Hmmmmm.
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May 11, 2017 04:19
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Stick also only seems to be posting in the last little while when he's mentioned, either directly or indirectly.
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May 11, 2017 04:22
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Whether Kash has truly "gone to bed" or not, though, he's sort of boned us by leaving. It will take four of the remaining five of us to dunk anybody who isn't me.
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May 11, 2017 04:24
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I believe that he went to bed. I also believe that it was a crappy move.
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May 11, 2017 04:25
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Work week, I'm not going to blame him.
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May 11, 2017 04:26
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I'd love it if someone else voted, you're not doing us any favors by waiting.
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May 11, 2017 04:26
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jumping on kash for doing the responsible thing and sleeping is really cool, and good
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May 11, 2017 04:27
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Max posted:Work week, I'm not going to blame him. Yeah, the part about having to hit the gym early in the morning hit close to home. I still don't have to like the decision, even if I understand it.
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May 11, 2017 04:27
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I'm oscillating between Stickup and IS, hold on.
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May 11, 2017 04:27
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Samfucius posted:Yeah, the part about having to hit the gym early in the morning hit close to home. This. I know, internet party game and all, but it just sort of sucks.
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May 11, 2017 04:28
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I'm not sure I'd vote anyone but is, kash, and maybe samfu
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May 11, 2017 04:28
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May 11, 2017 04:28
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You guys don't seem like you're willing to vote Kash, so I guess I'll hope my stickup read is also correct. ##unvote ##vote Stickup
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May 11, 2017 04:29
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Yeah I dunno, I hosed up this game or something but this one is destroying my brain. ##vote stickup
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