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Okay, I guess I'm signing up. Dang, it's been awhile.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2017 21:53 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 23:29 |
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I Understand That If I Do Not Unvote The Mod Will Not Count A Revote Unless I Am A Doublevoter. Hi everyone.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 02:50 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:One week ago: tpink posted:Oh man oh jeez and I didn't even get to post during jokephase tpink posted:ok this is pretty lol actually. 100yrs, would love to hear why you suddenly have concerns about a jokey D1 vanilla town claim just a week after it was apparently a-okay. In the meantime, ##vote 100years. Seems like a scum checkbox style post tpink posted:MT is a really good mafia player, so now I don't know what to think about 100yrs. I also agree with birdstrike on this one: The Lord of Hats posted:Geez, talk about a rolling start, I didn't expect things to kick off this quickly. I'm not entirely sure what to think about 100Yrs--on the one hand, I've made enough dumb mistakes as town to instinctively want to give the benefit of the doubt, and it's still super early, but on the other hand... I also agree with Keane calling out TMMadman's setup guessing post as scummy.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 03:18 |
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Moatillata posted:Hi im catching up now Are you a doublevoter?
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 03:21 |
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To summarize, my current scum list: 1. tpink 2. The Lord of Hats 3. TMMadman 4. Moatilla Moatilla for making lazy content posts.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 03:24 |
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Moatillata posted:Are you a baby irl
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 03:25 |
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Moatillata posted:Youre adorable learning your shapes and colors, working on your gross motor Also, I only work on nice motors, not gross ones.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 03:31 |
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Okay, so you're not paying very much attention to the thread. This was a missed opportunity to say "fine motors, not gross ones", which is a much better joke.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 03:43 |
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tpink posted:No, YOU're a scum checkbox style post Please vote for tpink.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 07:58 |
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Yeah, no I don't think tpink is scum for this. They're being pretty drat transparent about their thought process, which is something I personally appreciate. Even if you don't understand it you can tell the sincerity behind the actions. First, here's what I'm looking for 1) Lazy poo poo that indicates the person isn't actually looking for scum, like bandwagons, not reading the thread, or ways to stay under the radar 2) Scum "checkbox" posts where people find a post that does things people usually consider scummy, but is an excuse more than a genuine attempt 3) Saying "town" things to fit in, things like worrying about what other people think over finding scum 4) Coordination (or patterns of avoidance) or indications of knowledge they shouldn't have (as a note, this one is pretty rare to find in the early game) 5) Opportunism, fence-sitting, trying to pre-prepare justifications for voting people Obviously, everything is interpretation and none of it is 100% or mafia would be a solved game, and like Checkers, no one would ever play it. So here's what we've got from tpink: tpink posted:Oh man oh jeez and I didn't even get to post during jokephase tpink posted:ok this is pretty lol actually. 100yrs, would love to hear why you suddenly have concerns about a jokey D1 vanilla town claim just a week after it was apparently a-okay. In the meantime, ##vote 100years. We get an interrogation of 100yrs and an unvote, but the next two posts we get this: tpink posted:I'm just somewhat sympathetic to 100yrs because lord knows I've said stupid poo poo without thinking in past Mafia games that could be interpreted badly, and then didn't have a great explanation for whatever dumb thing I had said off the cuff. I'm defending him only half-heartedly because I at least partially agree that his explanations don't make 100% sense, but I am also just not as convinced as you that this one thing he said is a surefire scum tell. tpink posted:MT is a really good mafia player, so now I don't know what to think about 100yrs. tpink posted:No, YOU're a scum checkbox style post
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 08:45 |
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Tired Moritz posted:im sorry it's actually the afternoon right now Did you want to actually comment on any cases or on who you think is scum? I only ask because I noticed your entire post history is in my Mafia Dictionary under "White Noise"
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 07:46 |
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I maybe said things in a less than serious manner, but I do think all your words amounted to nothing. Do you think there's any other players that have said a lot of words that have amounted to nothing, or are similarly whipping up "weak non-cases"?
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 09:46 |
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Mithross posted:Calling 100yrs case a "ham fisted smear job" sounds like something a surprised scum would say. Somber is a good vote today.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 17:47 |
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Tired Moritz posted:the number of times people actually find scum in day 1 is much lower than townies being bad and getting lynched because they act scummy This has happened in a bajillion games I've played, and I actually like Moritz for town based on their tone and attitude. I'm down for a lurker lynch, with the caveat that "lowest post-count" may not be indicative of the worst lurking; word-count and content should be taken into consideration. Though what the hell, Merk hasn't even confirmed yet.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 17:52 |
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I just want to point out that tpink, after responding to my case and getting some heat, has entirely disappeared from the thread. tpink has made no effort to scumhunt (the town move), but is instead hiding and hoping people forget about them (scum move). The motivation here is clearly survival, not finding and eliminating scum. I feel pretty strongly about this as a D1 case. I'm keeping my vote on tpink. I'm also fine with executing Lord of Hats. 1) Because lurking, and 2) because each post seems a lot more about defense and excuses rather than finding scum.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 01:34 |
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Murmur Twin posted:Which of these sounds more likely? The problem with (B) is that Moritz has, like, one vote and only a few people who have passingly commented on liking him for scum. There's no heat to take off. They also don't need a fake case; they could just join the bandwagon and no one would give a poo poo. WIFOMing role possibilities and claims isn't useful at determining alignment at this point, nor a useful discussion to have overall.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 02:36 |
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Tired Moritz posted:I'm suspicious of the PMom push. It's dumb. Very dumb. On the other hand, then you go and post poo poo like this. Are you reading the same game I am?
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 02:38 |
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Murmur Twin posted:I think it is, because you can look at a question like "what was Moritz's motivation for claiming doc there?". At the end of the day, the most beneficial reason for someone to claim to be a doctor (even moreso than actually being a doctor) would be so that people didn't vote for them. Pretend you're town paranoid gunman and tell me how you get scum to visit you.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 03:15 |
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I'm around but I don't want to switch to 100yrs. Not because I'm particularly enamored with their posting, but because I'd much rather go for a scummy lurker than a suspicious but extremely verbose poster.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 03:17 |
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Quandary posted:Oh I guess not really just 100. I'm around to vote on someone else if hats is literally just a lurker lynch who should I read tpink, but it's mostly a lurker lynch too.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 03:18 |
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Tired Moritz posted:Kill lurkers. Tired Moritz posted:I don't want to kill hats but 1. Lurker 2. Probably a nilla and would you prefer a no lynch? At least no one can accuse you of consistency.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2017 03:40 |
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Lord of Hats, you should fullclaim. Town doctors, please don't protect confirmed non-town players. For gently caress's sake.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 01:16 |
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tpink posted:I get this and I'm not trying to be difficult - but don't you think that in a 24-player game, there are going to be at at least two different scum teams? My assumption is that this is in fact more likely than having like one big 5/6-player scum team, and from other large Mafia games I've played on SA, I think that multiple scum teams tend to be the norm. And to be clear, I am not really pushing the narrative that MMT was scum - I am just not as certain as you guys that she was town based on the N1 death. It makes sense provisionally, but I am not going to take it as a given unless we have good reason to believe that there's only one scum team. Also, this post on top of the earlier stuff mean tpink is almost certainly scum.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 01:19 |
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tpink posted:Your "case" on me yesterday was terrible and it continues to be terrible. Thanks. Who do you think is scum and why?
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 01:23 |
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tpink posted:
Huh. Scum are likely to lay low. You mean like, lurking? Sort of, like, you know, how you played yesterday?
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 01:46 |
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Birdstrike posted:We're going nowhere fast, time to Archerize this plan No, this is dumb. You're assuming way too much poo poo and the logic doesn't follow.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 01:49 |
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Huh. Scum are likely to lay low. You mean like, lurking? *Camera pans to tpink, zooms in*
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 01:50 |
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100YrsofAttitude posted:uranium you seem focused on Tpink, which is fine and all, but is there anyone else that's piqued your curiosity? You have good thought processes. Scum: -Lord of Hats, who is obviously not town aligned and should be lynched -tpink, for lurking, no content, fake content, and possible extra knowledge -Mithross, who is dead, I think may have been scum, due to fake content and low contribution -Tired Moritz, whose cases seem like fake content, posts a lot but says little, and seems to be pushing the idea that Queen-aligned = pro-town with no evidence -Kashuno, who lurked d1, contributions seems sparse, and pinged me as having extra knowledge -its me glenda/gif Probst, mostly for low content and a few posts about hats -Quandry, mostly for lurking, low content, but has admitted to not reading the thread closely -Spoonsy, for lurking and low content -CCKeane, again for the same There's a few others I'm on the fence about, but I would lynch any of those people today. Mostly, I've been waiting to see if Lord of Hats explains anything. At this point, though, I think we should lynch them; a pro-town faction would have said as much, and it's quite possible they're only 1-shot execute-proof. ##Vote Lord of Hats This vote stays on until they fullclaim their alignment win condition.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 15:24 |
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TMMadman posted:There's actually a whole lot of people who need to share some opinions. Here's the current post count:
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 15:27 |
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Post-count alone isn't the only indication of lurking. A lot of the people above the list have made many posts, but the posts have said essentially nothing. Dare I say.... content lurking??? Seriously, for the amount of posts this thread has, I feel like I've got nothing to go on because people post often but say little. It feels like very few people are doing anything to genuinely find scum and convince other people to vote for them. Is there a reason the short-shitpost style of Mafia became so popular? Because it's easy? People don't really want to play the game they signed up for? I don't think it helps win games for town. I actually entered this game with the goal of not talking about lurking at all, since one of the reasons I left was I felt the asymmetric effort I was willing to put in games versus, say, half the players just didn't make the game fun anymore. It felt like 70% of my games I was just yelling at lurkers to post so that there was any sort of content to go off of, and people didn't actually give a poo poo about playing the games; they liked the idea of playing mafia, but not actually playing mafia. Sadly, it seems that's gotten worse.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 15:34 |
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Spoonsy posted:I still want to know what Birdstrike did last night that he regrets. That just doesn't right to me. Birdstrike is not a good vote.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 15:35 |
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Kashuno posted:Christ I'm under the mod. I'm ashamed.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 15:36 |
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Ernie. posted:queen-aligned is as much a problem to scum as they are to us right now. This is either prime idiocy or serious indication of scum-knowledge. I'm seriously just baffled by a lot of the posts people are making. You don't just "let be" a known non-town faction. Like, Queen-aligned could be the source of one of the kills. People are getting thrown by the flavor, which is not an indication of win condition or pro-town status. I've got work, so ya'll can now safely ignore me and all the extremely poignant poo poo I just posted but I'll be back before the deadline to yell at you all more.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2017 15:55 |
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Spoonsy posted:I still don't know what a Brutal Cop is. CCKeane posted:I was thinking TM, especially since TM seemed to be Mithross's top pick, but the doc claim does give me pause. Is there a reason we are ignoring it? The doc claim doesn't make sense. Almost never do you want to claim doc unless it would 1) save you from a lynch or 2) save someone you protected from a nightkill (who is therefore probably town). Neither of these were happening. I'm in agreement that TM is probably scum. The stupider thing is that we're ignoring the confirmed not-town aligned flip, but I guess I'm the only one who seems to give a poo poo about that, and hell, they'll probably get modkilled at their current rate of posting. Also I just read the hilarious crap that TM posted and it didn't change my mind at all. Like, he's "100% sure" Moat is lying because of his own unimaginative/illogical setup speculation? Right. I'm now leaning town on Kash and putting cckeane in the town category unless something changes.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 01:40 |
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Tired Moritz posted:##unvote Wait, you think moat is lying and you go with this?
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 01:41 |
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##Unvote ##Vote Tired Moritz
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 01:42 |
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Tired Moritz posted:Sombre is rude and thus deserve to die
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 01:43 |
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At this point I have a huge list of People I'm Down to Execute because you're all scum (and some of you are even scum aligned) but right now we need to build consensus so: 1) TM is a great vote 2) I'm also down to try and execute Lord of Hats again; often 3) Fine executing Quandary or any of the other suspicious lurkers
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 01:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 23:29 |
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Tired Moritz posted:But seriously though, why is everyone just accepting that the Moat just randomly turned to a cop? 2) Now it looks like you're fishing for a doc, which is a Pretty Scummy Move imo Any docs out there please do not claim. But also don't protect non-town aligned people, tia
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 01:50 |