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MythosDragon posted:I completely disagree on the intro talk. Nothing helps an RPG kick off better than a strong extremely story focused intro, the vast majority of the best RPGs have em. And while this gane still counts, it desperately needed some slice of life stuff here to ease you in, if it wasnt for Shiho I probably wouldve stopped playing on a bad note for a while rather than finish the first arc and wait for the lp in an attempt to not be able to spoil things cuz seriously I have no clue. And maybe a more efficient calender. All I'm saying is that a long slow intro makes re-playing the game kinda unappealing. It's fine on a first go around, of course. For me at least. I've seen quite a few people try to play Yakuza 0 and having episodes about not getting to play fast enough.
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MythosDragon posted:Edit: Pretty sure both the old and new tarot decks are actual decks being referenced if not copied. The "classic" Persona 3-4 deck is based on the Rider-Waite. The inverted ones like The Jester, The Aeon, and Hunger are based on the Thoth deck by noted alleged demon summoner Aleister Crowley, also the source of the Goetia, which every edgy game and it's kid sister cribs for demon designs.
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Bliss Authority posted:The "classic" Persona 3-4 deck is based on the Rider-Waite. The inverted ones like The Jester, The Aeon, and Hunger are based on the Thoth deck by noted alleged demon summoner Aleister Crowley, also the source of the Goetia, which every edgy game and it's kid sister cribs for demon designs. To be fair, the Goetia's (short for The Book of the Goetia of King Solomon) descriptions for a lot of the demons have become the standard fare of most of Shin Megami Tensei's line of demons.
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Dinictus posted:To be fair, the Goetia's (short for The Book of the Goetia of King Solomon) descriptions for a lot of the demons have become the standard fare of most of Shin Megami Tensei's line of demons. This isn't a bad thing when used well - the goetic demon designs in SMT are  and Umineko gets some great use out of them - but my life has never been the same upon discovering the unconscionable designs of a certain gatcha hell game.I don't recommend clicking that link.
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Oh yeah, almost forgot,Arist posted:
Pretty sure this is what the cannonball torture in the Palace is meant to represent.
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geri_khan posted:Oh yeah, almost forgot, Considering what we've seen of the guy, I wouldn't be surprised if he literally had a giant sawblade treadmill.
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geri_khan posted:Oh yeah, almost forgot, I dunno, it's just so hilariously specific and pointlessly cruel oh
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Mzbundifund posted:Yosuke wasn't actually that dumb. It's easy to miss because the game will not go 10 minutes without telling the player how cool the protagonist is, but Yosuke's actually the one who figures out basically everything murder-related and explains it to the protagonist while he stands there with a dumb look on his blank self-insert face. Yosuke was immature because he's a teenager, and the game constantly makes him the butt of all the jokes, but as far as actually figuring things out and taking initiative he's the driving force behind 90% of the player's actions. He's the actual protagonist. I always held on to this theory myself. The main character was the leader of the bunch (or face of the band if you will), but Yosuke was the man behind the man or driving force, so to speak. Though one notable exception was avoiding the bad endings.
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geri_khan posted:Oh yeah, almost forgot, Yeah that was what I thought at this point when I was playing, the dude makes high school children try to return the spike from a full grown man (an Olympic gold medallist at that) over and over again as 'training' to boost his own ego.
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mauman posted:I always held on to this theory myself. Basically P4's plot hook is, "let's go along with what Yosuke says." "Except that."
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I'm a huge Goetia fan considering my absolute favorite series in existence heavily uses it as inspiration and I am extremely bitter at all times when Beezlebub gets used instead of Bael. Seriously there are things that specifically use the Goetia and then replace Bael with Beezlebub. Also none of my favorites get used in this series so its all a moot point. 0/10.
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Part 8: 4/14-4/15: Things Escalate Time to head to school. Maybe Ryuji will have more luck convincing someone to talk about Kamoshida today.   I think I might ask for his autograph after school. I dunno if that’s such a good idea… I hear that you shouldn’t go near the PE faculty office. People say you can hear weird sounds, like screaming, even though no one’s there... What? That’s probably just a rumor spread by fans to scare the competition.Pretty odd for a rumor. Of course, they’re also saying Maaku is the Zodiac Killer or something so maybe these kids are just into making up weird poo poo. Music: So Boring    No, that ain’t why. Just hear me out. You know how we didn’t get a thing outta the volleyball team? I figured it’d be a good idea to talk to someone who knows them. Takamaki’s BFFs with a starter. A girl named Suzui. I tried to talk to that girl during break, but I got nothing. That’s why we should have Takamaki talk to her. Then again, I guess it’ll be hard getting her to help us… Sorry. Lemme see what else I can come up with.Music: Confession/Secret   Holy crap, what happened to you?  That bruise above your eye… Is that from practice, too? Y-Yeah... Are you sure you’re not pushing yourself too hard? I’m OK… Volleyball’s the only thing I can do right... Ann’s phone begins to ring. Shouldn’t you take that? It’s probably just my part-time job… I think. I…should get going. Shiho… ...Are you sure you’re OK? Uh-huh...Shiho leaves. Ann’s phone continues to ring.   Today won’t work… I’m… I’m not feeling so good… Sorry… Bye.Ann hangs up and leaves. Two male students enter the courtyard at the same time.   Rumor has it she’s dating Kamoshida. Seriously? I heard people saw them in his car together. You know… she seems pretty easy, huh? You think I’d have a chance, too? C’mon dude, you can’t go after Kamoshida’s bitch!This is a really messed up school.  ...What? Oh… I’m in the way, aren’t I? Sorry... I really am sorry though. I must have spaced out… Hm, you don’t look familiar. Could you be that transfer student from Class D? *nods* Uh, this might not be any of my business, but don’t let the rumors get to you, OK…? I’m glad to hear that. ...My best friend is often misunderstood too, all because of her looks… Ah, sorry. I didn’t mean to drag on like that. Anyway, I have to go to practice… I’ll see you around.Music: Suspicion    Is that what it looks like? All of ‘em kept sayin’ the same poo poo Mishima was talkin’ about…! At this rate… it looks like we’ll have to go to him directly... I know… But seriously, isn’t there something we can do? No way I’m gonna give in like this! Can you think of anything? Let’s go straight for the insane option. That’d be fine if we could do it without gettin’ caught, but… if we did, we’d be seriously done for. You got any other ideas…? And now for the insanely pointless option. So you wanna tell ‘em about the castle? They’d never believe us… Have any other ideas…? What do we do…? The king…? You mean that other world’s Kamoshida? I didn’t think of that, but… Is there any meaning to-- Music: My Homie   ...You say something? That voice… Is that you, Morgana!? How dare you, up and leaving me the other day! The cat’s talkin’!? I am NOT a cat! This is just what happened when I came to this world! It was a lot of trouble finding you two. Wait… You came to our world!? Does that mean you’ve got a phone!? You don’t need one when you’re at my level. I did get pretty lost making my escape though... That aside, why can you talk!? You’re a cat! How should I know!? You hearin’ this too…? This is no time to be jokin’ around! You guys are having a rough time of this, hm? I heard you mention something about witnesses. Oh, shuddup. You know, I could tell you a thing or two about what to do about Kamoshida. You were pretty close just a moment ago. God, that condescendin’ attitude! This thing’s gotta be Morgana! You were still doubting me!? Ack…! Quiet down!  I just heard a meow somewhere near here. Didn’t you hear it?Oh poo poo, sorry guys. That was me.  Make sure you check every nook and cranny around. Meow…? Does that mean only us two can understand what you’re sayin’? Looks like it. What the hell’s goin’ on…? Anyways, what you were talkin’ about earlier… is it for real? You’re quite the skeptic for being an idiot. Hey, tell us more. Then again, this probably ain’t the best place...  Music: Wicked Plan  Enough of that! You said you know how we can do something about Kamoshida, right? It has to do with what this guy was talking about earlier. You’ll need to attack his castle. What do you mean…? That castle is how Kamoshida views this school. He doesn’t realize what happens in there, but it’s deeply connected to the depths of his heart. Thus, if the castle disappears, it would naturally impact the real Kamoshida. What’d happen? A Palace is a manifestation of a person’s distorted desires. So, if that castle were no more... Precisely! You sure pick up things fast! For real!? H-He’s gonna turn good!? But… is that really gettin’ back at him? Erasing a Palace essentially means forcing the owner to have a change of heart. However, even though their warped wants disappear, the crimes they committed remain. Kamoshida will become unable to bear the weight of those crimes, and he’ll confess them himself! You for real!? That’s possible!? And since the Palace will no longer exist, he’ll forget what we did there as well. Not only will we be able to bring Kamoshida down, but there won’t even be a trace of our involvement. That’s amazing! You are one incredible cat! True, except for the cat part! So? How do we get rid of the Palace!? By stealing the Treasure held within. Stealing…? I’ll tell you more once you agree to go ahead with this. It’s my most valuable, secret plan, after all. If you want to help me out, I’ll gladly teach you. What’s your call? Our luck’s runnin’ dry lookin’ for witnesses. Guess we have no choice but to go along… ...Good. Oh, right. There’s one more thing I should tell you. If we erase a Palace, there is no doubt that the person’s distorted desires will be erased as well. But desires are what we all need in order to survive. The will to sleep, eat, fall in love—those sorts of things. What’re you gettin’ at? If all of those yearnings were to vanish, they’d be no different than someone who has shut down entirely. They may even die if they’re not given proper care. So... Will you listen to everything I have to say first? Would their death be our fault…? Aren’t you determined enough to face those kinds of risks? Hey… What do you think? This seems like a little much, even for that piece of poo poo. O-Of course not... Sheesh… I come all this way, and this is what I get. It’s not like anyone will ever find out. That’s not the point! If we just go around secretly doin’ whatever we want, we’d be no different than that effin’ Kanoshida... Isn’t this your only option? ...I’ll come back later. Make sure you’ve made your decision by then.Morgana leaves.  I’ll try and see if I can figure out another way… C’mon, let’s get outta here.  About that Suzui girl… Looks like rumors are going around about her and Kamoshida. It’s just impossible. I’ve known Takamaki and Suzui since middle school. There’s just no way Kamoshida’s their type, y’know? So… I gotta wonder where those rumors came from. Well, whatever. I’ll try asking around some more.On the way home...   This has nothing to do with Shiho!The person on the other end abruptly hangs up. Ah... Shiho’s… starting position… Maaku walks closer. Ann notices him and backs away. Wait… Were you listening? Haven’t you heard of privacy? ….. ...No, I was out of line. Sorry. So how much did you hear…? Shiho… It’s nothing at all. Nothing...   Time to pursue an emotionally fragile teenager over something that’s none of our business. This should go well.    Ann eventually stops near these pillars.   Why… Why do you keep worrying about me? *sob* What the heck…? I really don’t get you… Then why are we even here? It was just an argument... It seems like she’s really stressed out...Confession Music: Confession/Secret (Piano Version)   About Mr. Kamoshida. Everyone says we’re getting it on. But… that’s so not true…! I avoided giving him my number… for the longest time… He told me to go to his place after this... If I turn him down, he said he’d take my friend off as a regular on the team... I can’t take it anymore...  But still… Shiho’s my best friend. Tell me… What should I do…? Sorry… I shouldn’t have asked. It’s not your problem. Music: Sunset Bridge   ...You might be right. ...You’re so weird. Usually everyone just ignores me. Are you really a bad person as the rumor says…? You just don’t seem like it... Is that supposed to be a joke? I kinda had a feeling they were all just exaggerations. You seemed lonely—almost like you didn’t belong anywhere… We’re the same in that regard. Maybe that’s why it was so easy for me to talk to you. Is there really no way for me to help Shiho…? I wish he’d just change his mind… Like, forget about me, and everything… As if something like that would ever happen... I wasn’t asking for a serious response. But I do feel a bit better now. ...I’m gonna head home. I’ll try and think of a way to persuade Kamoshida. Well… thanks.  Are you leaving…? What is it…? Mr. Kamoshida’s asking for you… He’s in the PE faculty office. What did he say? ...I don’t know. Well… I have to go.Mishima runs off.    Ann…Shiho ignores the call and walks off. Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)     ...By the way, you haven’t been hanging around any bad influences, have you? Huh. They’ve gotta be pretty strange to want to spend time with you. Just make sure you’re careful who your friends are, if you don’t want them ruining your life. *yawn* Look at the time. Seriously, think about how I feel having to stay up here waiting for you. Hey, I’m leaving. In the future, try not to come back so drat late. Understood? I dunno if I get all that stuff about stealing desires… And Kamoshida’s gonna turn like, brain dead if we mess up, right? For sure. I mean, maybe I’m just freaking out, but I don’t wanna end up a murderer cause of this poo poo. Oh well… I’ll try and see if I can come up with some other way tonight. One thing I’ve been neglecting to do every night is sit on the sofa. Depending on changes in the story, you’ll have new brief ruminations. It’s not much, but it’s cool all the same.  Anyway, I should get some sleep. Mr. Kamoshida asked to see her... You know, I’ve been hearing rumors about how Mr. Kamoshida and Suzui-senpai stay late… She always shows up to meetings though. It’s weird she wasn’t at the one yesterday...Music: So Boring   The National Diet is legislative, the Cabinet is executive, and the Supreme Court is judiciary. This division of power provides checks and balances, which ensures no one branch becomes unstoppable. JESUS CHRIST No matter how much thinking you do, there’s only one option. You’d be better off just listening to me. Hm? Did I just hear a cat just now? M-Meow! Could that rumored cat be somewhere nearby…? Settle down! We’re in the middle of an important lecture!Maaku’s phone vibrates.  I can’t deal with that poo poo right now. I mean, what’re we gonna do about Kamoshida? Do we just gotta go along with what that cat says? Urgh, that drat furball… If he only knew I’m reading this too... Enough! This is a classroom! Wait… She’s going to jump…! Suzui…? Hey! Stay in your seats! Do not step foot outside of this room!   Music: Desire    ...holy poo poo.  Calm down! Back to your seats! No… Why…?  ...Right. We should get down there.  There’s no way we’re gonna get past all these goddamn people… C’mon, let’s try goin’ through the practice buildin’!   What the hell!? Outta the way, man! Please! Shiho…!  We need someone to go with her… Are there any teachers around? We should leave this to Principal Kobayakawa... I’ll go! Please hurry! Ann…? I’m sorry. I… I can’t take this… anymore... Shiho…? Shiho says something to Ann that we cannot hear. ...Huh? ...Kamoshida!? Ngh... The ambulance drives off.   Return to your classrooms at once!  Mishima runs off. That guy… Hey, wasn’t Mishima acting weird? ...We’re gonna make him talk this time. Music: Suspicion  Why’d you run like that? Huh!? I didn’t run...  …L-Leave me alone... He’s right! We ain’t tryin’ to get you busted. We won’t say you talked either! Suzui… Wait, what!? I was called by him a number of times too… to the teacher’s room. It wasn’t just me or Suzui either. He’d nominate someone when he was in a bad mood… and hit them. So the physical punishment thing was for real... But yesterday, he called Suzui out of the blue. She didn’t make any mistakes or anything… Mr. Kamoshida seemed really irritated that day, so it must’ve been… worse than usual... He didn’t…! Ryuji runs off.  Maaku follows, and ultimately so does Mishima. Music: Tension  Mr. Kamoshida’s probably in the PE faculty office on the second floor. He went into the PE faculty office! Let’s hurry, we have to go after him. You bastard! The hell did you do to that girl!? What are you talking about? Ryuji kicks a chair over in rage. That is enough! What you did… wasn’t coaching…! What did you say? You… You ordered me to call Suzui here… I can only imagine what you did to her…! Basically, you’re simply making these claims because you can’t be a regular on the team, right? That’s not what this is about…! We just received a call from the hospital. Suzui’s in a coma, and her chances of recovery are slim… How would someone like that make a statement? There’s no chance of her getting better, I hear… The poor girl. No… That can’t be… You goddamn…!Ryuji is physically shaking at this point. This, again…? Does this mean we need to have yet another case of “self-defense”? You shut your mouth, you son of a bitch! Why’re you stoppin’ me…!? But still! Oh? You’re stopping him? What a surprise. There’s no need to hold back. Why not attack me? ...Ohhh, you can’t. Hahaha, but of course you can’t. Everyone present right now… will be expelled. I’m reporting all of you at the next board meeting. Wha-- You can’t make a decision like that…! Who would seriously consider what scum like you say? You threatened me too, Mishima, so you’re just as responsible. Huh…? To think you didn’t know why I kept someone as talentless as you on the team. You act like you’re a victim, but you leaked his criminal records, didn’t you? It’s all over the internet, correct? How terrible.  Kamoshida begins laughing sickeningly. Now, are we finished here? You’re all expelled! You’re done for; your futures are mine to take. Now get out of my sight. I can’t believe this rear end in a top hat’s gettin’ away with this…! And he does. The rest of this game takes place in jail.  Huh…? ...Oh right. We have that! I don’t understand what garbage like you are thinking, but go ahead and try. All you can do is wait for your disposal though…I bet he thinks that was a really clever line. He’s been waiting weeks to use that one. The stakes have never been higher. We’re about to get expelled, and if that goes through, the terms of our probation mean we’re headed straight to juvie. Kamoshida is one devious son of a bitch. For the record, Kamoshida is voiced by D.C. Douglas, probably best known as Albert goddamn Wesker. He’s an all-around amazing VA, and while Kamoshida’s Japanese voice isn’t bad, this is probably a straight upgrade. Arist fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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Arist posted:The stakes have never been higher. We’re about to get expelled, and if that goes through, the terms of our probation mean we’re headed straight to juvie. Kamoshida is one devious son of a bitch. For the record, Kamoshida is voiced by D.C. Douglas, probably best known as Albert goddamn Wesker. He’s an all-around amazing VA, and while Kamoshida’s Japanese voice isn’t bad, this is probably a straight upgrade. I've heard Kamoshida's JP voice, and it... well it seemed really weird to me, kinda nasally and way less overtly threatening than Douglas' interpretation here, and it didn't really click with me... until this scene here. What strikes you is how... completely unconcerned he is with everything that's happened; one of his students just attempted suicide, and he doesn't even sound remotely sorry. It's skin-crawling to hear, and just makes everything seem even worse. So, yeah... good job, game, for presenting a villain so immediately and viscerally hateful. And... well, it really doesn't do us any good here, as this isn't a VLP, but talking of voice acting, Morgana's initial reappearance in cat form is a really stellar example. Ryuji's VA in particular really knocks it out of the park; his "Does that mean you have a phone?" line is amazingly delivered, and his response to your "Meow?" response (which is, in fact, the only correct response, Arist, well done  ) makes it sound like he's two seconds away from a conniption then and there, it's great. So good job... uh, Max Mittelman? Good work, there.
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Max Mittelman is far and away one of the best voices in this game and "DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE A PHONE?" is a sign of great things to come. 
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Can we just, like, skip the dungeon altogether and just light Kamoshida on fire instead?
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Max Mittleman really does do a sterling job here. I'm thinking particularly of his confrontation with Mishima after Shiho's suicide attempt where you can *feel* his anger. It's fantastic. And speaking of which...holy lord, what a well-done emotional kick in the balls. I don't think I've ever hated a video game villain as much as I hate Kamoshida. I really feel like a lot of game stories- and hell, stories in general- would really seriously benefit from making things smaller and more personal like this. In 4, we didn't have anyone to hate when Saki was killed, we didn't see it, and the emotional reaction from our cast was minimal- Yosuke got the sads for a while, and decided to explore the TV, but that disappeared once he got his Persona. Here, Ryuji is absolutely livid, Ann is obviously completely devastated, and we know who the motherfucker responsible is. I'm actually kind of disappointed that there isn't an optional bad ending here where you pick up that bat so clearly placed in the PE Office and beat Kamoshida to death with it. Perhaps it's because I'm a teacher, and thus more sensitive to teachers who abuse their position, but I was fully on board with not giving a gently caress what happened to Kamoshida. I picked the "I'm interested" option hoping it meant "So we can kill him undetected? Tell me more." This whole entire sequence is incredibly well-done, it's really fantastic.
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This all makes me wonder "can this game actually top its own introduction?" because I can't fathom the story being able to muster its its player the same visceral disgust as it does with Kamoshida.
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God, my first reaction to this moment. "Oh, man, so this is what they meant by getting dark. A Life Is Strange situation where I have to talk a girl off a ledge, and- Oh. Oh."
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For anyone who seriously wants to claim 'this game has a bad localisation,' I'd direct them to this scene. Kamoshida's scumbaggery is just done so masterfully here; he's legitimately detestable, both in and out of character. In fact, he's a little too good- this may be a spoiler, but none of the villains really hit as many highs as Kamoshida.
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This intro is very good at doing one thing. Making you want to strap Kamoshida to the back of a car and drive until there is nothing left of the bastard.GoneRampant posted:For anyone who seriously wants to claim 'this game has a bad localisation,' I'd direct them to this scene. Kamoshida's scumbaggery is just done so masterfully here; he's legitimately detestable, both in and out of character. In fact, he's a little too good- this may be a spoiler, but none of the villains really hit as many highs as Kamoshida. There are definitely worse issues for a game to have then the intro is just too good. Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 1, 2017 |
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The point is to make the characters desperate enough to actually consider jumping into his head and maybe killing him.
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As awesome as this whole update is in story quality... is there a compelling reason Kamoshida has to wait till the next board meeting to get us expelled, or is it just to give us time to destroy his palace? Like, I'm really pumped by how well put together this game is, but if they manage to give a convincing reason for that as well this game so far would be flawless.
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I think it's mostly for the time limit, but my impression is that he doesn't consider you significant enough for him to even bother doing it earlier. The board meeting is when it's most convenient for him.
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Rawkking posted:As awesome as this whole update is in story quality... is there a compelling reason Kamoshida has to wait till the next board meeting to get us expelled, or is it just to give us time to destroy his palace? I guess since we've not actually assaulted him or anything he has to go through some official channels? Propose it at a meeting and have it voted on? I don't know how kids get expelled. Kamoshida's got a lot of sway but I don't think even he can do it unilaterally. As for the update - I got a lot to say but it'd be rambling. All I can say is everything that happened was really drat effective at making me hate the bastard, and that's vital given how murky the consequences might be. geri_khan fucked around with this message at 21:48 on May 1, 2017 |
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Clarste posted:I think it's mostly for the time limit, but my impression is that he doesn't consider you significant enough for him to even bother doing it earlier. The board meeting is when it's most convenient for him. Plus he gets to bask in the feeling of having won already, and knowing that there's nothing you can do about it.
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geri_khan posted:I guess since we've not actually assaulted him or anything he has to go through some official channels? Propose it at a meeting and have it voted on? I don't know how kids get expelled. Kamoshida's got a lot of sway but I don't think even he can do it unilaterally. I like this explanation, if it doesn't get contradicted I'm going with this to maximize my enjoyment of the series. Thanks!
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Rainuwastaken posted:Plus he gets to bask in the feeling of having won already, and knowing that there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, if you talk to him in the school before completing his dungeon, he will gloat right to your face about how many ways you're hosed because of him and how you can do nothing about it. They really set you up to viscerally hate this guy and have no trouble maybe killing him by accident if things go wrong.
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Ayana posted:Yeah, if you talk to him in the school before completing his dungeon, he will gloat right to your face about how many ways you're hosed because of him and how you can do nothing about it. It's also kinda reasonable that your characters are originally willing to back off on the risk of maybe killing him until they see he's completely willing to drive a victim to their death, himself.
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Man, am I glad I came across this LP a couple updates back, what with really wanting to play this game but having no system more modern than a PS2 (which was enough for Persona 4, dammit!) to play it on myself and no real disposable income at the moment with which to upgrade... I had heard how drat sleazy Kamoshida was as a person and how much he enjoys rubbing your face in poo poo about how you can't touch him from other sources, but I had no idea how drat smug and punchable he comes across as until these last couple of updates. The game is really doing a good job at getting you invested in these characters and the first dungeon and all that. Can't wait to see more, as well as how familiar looking Persona mechanics come into play in this game. Also, the visuals and character design continue to be great, sasuga Soejima. Music is pretty drat good too, again as to be expected from this series. Wanna see more of ersatz Tokyo as well. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 22:50 on May 1, 2017 |
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Arist posted:This is a really messed up school. I'm only at the beginning of the update, but I get the feeling that's going to be the theme of this update.
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Should I make the implications clear for those unable to make the leap in logic themselves?
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Junpei posted:Should I make the implications clear for those unable to make the leap in logic themselves? Wait for the next update.
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Junpei posted:Should I make the implications clear for those unable to make the leap in logic themselves? Don't do the LPer's job for them. E:f,b
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The animated cutscene with Ann features some excellent work from her actress; she does a good job relaying the character's frustration and disgust at the situation. Ryuji and Kamoshida are also superb here, as others have said. Kamoshida is such a good villain. He's a horrifying and petty criminal, content to ruin the lives of children because he knows he can get away with it. You want him to suffer because you know there are people in real life just like him.
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Yeah, if you could, just wait an update. We should be able to cover that then.
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Well, that was terrible. Can we not just corner Kamoshida after school and break his legs?
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Arist posted:Yeah, if you could, just wait an update. We should be able to cover that then. Thanks, just wanted to know.
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First time through the game, I picked, "We'll have to risk it," because I really couldn't see any other options and I figured there's gotta be SOME way to pull it off and make sure he doesn't die from it... but Ryuji still had cold feet, so we sat on it for a day. And then the next day rolls around and I hear the words, "She's gonna jump!" and at that point my mind goes into a loop of, "Oh Jesus gently caress no no no no don't do this no no no-"  That's the point where I went from being mad about how hosed up things in this school are to absolutely livid. The game does an absolutely fantastic job of making you want to put an end to Kamoshida and his reign of tyranny, no matter what the cost. I think the only time I've seen a Persona game get darker faster than this was the opening of P4: Dancing All Night, which opened with an animated cutscene of a little girl trying to track down her favorite idol after a concert to get an autograph and walking in on her mere seconds after she'd hung herself.
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