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Part 132: 10/28-10/29: Straight As An Arrow Music: Suspicion   We’ll be going to Niijima’s Palace, so I want to look into her. Things like her work ethic and relationships. It doesn’t matter whether it’s public or private. It’s kind of hosed up that we’ve basically just identified a likelihood that Sae is going to do some bad poo poo, Minority Report-style, and we’re already actively working to undermine her privacy. For some reason this bothers me more than the fact that we plan to brainwash her. She hasn’t actually done anything wrong yet besides be a total poo poo to Makoto, is what I’m saying. Those would help us come up with countermeasures in case we hit a roadblock in her Palace.I mean, I guess that’s a decent excuse, though Makoto would probably know a lot of what we’d need anyway.  I can look up more, you know. Stuff like her repertoire of underwear.   You tell her too! I thought you’d like that… I’m not a sex pest, Futaba. This game’s weird enough about that stuff already. Ahem! Also, I may be overthinking it, but my voice-- Futaba grabs Morgana’s face.  Same as always. Let me finish first! *sigh* ...There’s something else we want you to look into.   My memory is a haze... Anon: id bet money on the arrest Anon: Akechi-kun, save us! Anon: Record-breaking evil Anon: stop shitposting lol NEVER. Music: Suspicion   First off, the investigation team has announced new progress in the search for the Phantom Thieves. Secondly, the opposition party has submitted a vote of no confidence regarding the current Cabinet. That along with Legislator Shido’s plan for a new party has sparked fears of governmental disbandment. Oh my god THE GOVERNMENT HAS DISBANDED Music: So Boring   Oh right, we were never told where to meet up. At the courthouse. Where’s that?  Hint: The government office district. Kasumigaseki... Indeed. Oh, I’ve heard of that place. Never been there though. Me neither. It’s not somewhere normal people usually go. You know, all those weirdos in civil service. Whoa. Just looking at the map is impressive. The Police department, Ministry of Justice, Public Prosecutors Office, AND Public Security. The Diet Building is right near there too. For real!? What kinda scary place are we going to!? We won’t get caught, right…? According to Akechi-kun, our identities haven’t been discovered yet. So we are jut going to plunge head-first into enemy territory… Has anyone contacted Akechi? We’re going to meet him there. Be on guard, everyone. We’ll be heading into a lion’s den. Being in the general vicinity of public servants isn’t actually that dangerous even for us, unless they’re expecting large groups of teenagers to go waltzing up to the Tax Bureau or whatever the gently caress and have set a trap accordingly. Honestly, the biggest risk would just be Akechi accidentally fatfingering the wrong group text and blasting “Hey Maaku, Ryuji, Ann, Yusuke, Makoto, Futaba, and Haru. Ready for our covert Phantom Thieves business?” to the entire police department.  Let’s hurry up and get started. Akechi, what did you find out? Music: Disquiet  I rarely get to see Sae-san directly, but I’ve figured out her course of action. On the 20th, an investigation will likely be done at Shujin Academy… as well as the Sakura residence. Wait, I thought they didn’t know who we were, and the risk was they were going to arrest the wrong person? Why would they go to Sojiro’s place? For… real…?  ...Then that means, our time limit is November 20th. But this should be a substantially forced operation. I doubt it’ll take place before the 20th. We’ll take your word. For now, we need to focus on infiltrating her Palace. I concur. And, we should probably get going soon. After all, people like us standing around here is quite unnatural. Well then...     Music: Wicked Plan  Oh, those wacky hijinks the Phantom Thieves get up to, hyuk~  I’m so sorry. Until recently, Futaba was actually a… well… It’s OK, Sae-san told me the gist. Oh, right. Akechi-kun, it may be best if you exchange contact info with everyone too, not just me. That’s true. Ooh…!  *sigh* I’ll send everyone’s contacts to you later… Thanks. Akechi looks around at everyone. Well then, I hope we get along. I’ll do my best.  Though our positions are somewhat different, Akechi will be joining us for the time being… I feel like my bond with Akechi has grown even deeper...     And with that, Akechi has joined the Phantom Thieves, and gotten all the requisite gameplay benefits from his Confidant. Prior to this point in the Confidant menu, these skills were displayed as “LOCKED,” but we now have access to them.  Futaba hands Akechi back his phone.  She’s praising you… I believe. Music: Suspicion Then, shall we get started? Maaku takes his phone out.  We need to figure out what Makoto’s sis thinks this courthouse is, right? I often hear her call it a “place of competition in which she must always win.” A competition, huh… That sounds like Sae-san. It’d be unbearable if we were put on trial for a reason like that. ...Although, a competition means it’s a match of some sort. Might it be a martial-arts ring?  Conditions have not been met. Then… perhaps a stadium? Or maybe an arena? Conditions have not been met. There are other competitions besides fighting and sports. Gambling, then! How about a racetrack for horses? Other than that, there’s pachinko, but does that count as gambling? We played cards during the school trip. That doesn’t really help, Ryuji. Conditions have not been met. What else is there? It must be a “casino”… Candidate found. Akechi is surprised. I definitely see Sae-san in you.  What a cruel thing to say! Welp, it’s time we head in then. Beginning navigation.   Sae’s Palace     That’s it… huh? What’s going on here?  Seems like it… Let’s go. Right.   And so, we’re finally back here. Music: Disquiet   Everywhere else seems to be a normal cityscape.   I didn’t know that the station and the courthouse were next to each other. Our attire hasn’t changed… That must mean we aren’t considered threats or hostiles yet.   The police station’s also part of her work area though, whenever arrests are made for her cases. I’ve brought her food and belongings when she was sent on loan to the police. We got no business with the cops, right? This might be the Metaverse, but I don’t wanna go in a station. That reminds me, he’ll need a code name too.“That reminds me” in this game seems to just mean “I thought of this for no reason.” ...Code name? Phantom thieves can’t go around usin’ their real names, right? It ain’t cool either. That’s not the actual reason we decided to use them, but whatever. Just for reference, what is everyone else’s? Skull. Mine’s Fox. We pretty much decided on them with how we look, didn’t we? Haru is quiet. What is it, Haru? O-Oh, it’s nothing...Okay, I get what this joke is supposed to be, with Haru’s nascent sense of justice leading her to pick the code name “Noir.” Then, as a reference to the fact that the rest of the team thought it was a bit odd, she feels embarrassed about it now. It just doesn’t really come across that well. First, because that was like ten hours ago and no one’s remarked upon or developed any of that since, and second because “Noir” is still a badass code name. Then… perhaps “Karasu” will be best for me. You know, like a raven. Are your clothes all black or something? The reverse, actually. If our code names are to hide our identities, wouldn’t that be better? Karasu… He’d be the only Japanese-sounding one. “Noir” is the only French-sounding one, who cares? Why not go with “Crow” instead? All right, from here on out, you’re Crow. Got it.  Music: The Whims of Fate (Listen to this) This is one of the best songs in the game, which is fitting, because this is also the best Palace by a comfortable margin.   Sorry Haru, but you’re benched for now. Time to see what Goro has to offer.   We can’t go in the front door obviously, so we head up this fire escape and jump across.  There, we find a door waiting for us. Music: Disquiet  Pfffff… Oh god, what the gently caress, I don’t know if I can hold back the laughter… Look at this fuckin’ nerd!  Dude, you plannin’ on stealin’ stuff in that getup? It just means that’s what he thinks a rebel looks like.Like a parade float?  No, this is my mental image of a person who sticks to their justice. Again, NEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRD.  Well, I think your mask is more apt for piercing rather than sticking…   But we’re in a flashy casino. There’s no doubt this is a Palace.  ...Oh right, Crow doesn’t know too much about cognitive beings, does he?  Ah, yes. In addition to similar topography, cognitive people exist based on the ruler’s perceptions. That prolly didn’t make much sense ‘cause of all the fancy terms he was usin’, huh? In essence, since these ones look like real people, Sae-san’s view of others is surprisingly undistorted. But considering what I see before me, it’s difficult to believe it is not actually a real casino. Not all cognitions are normal though. In Futaba and Okumura’s Palaces, we had to battle them. People may look normal, but we should be careful… particularly of those in positions of power. Is this what you have to go through every time?  Hm, this is a first for me… I’m somewhat nervous.  Just don’t slow us down, Crow. I will not allow that to happen.  OK, it’s time we head inside. Our deadline for this infiltration is November 20th. Any later, and we’ll get caught in reality. Of course, we’ll need to secure an infiltration route before we send out the calling card. As always.  Aww, he looks so excited.  Will you please stop interrupting?  M-My apologies. Well then… let’s go. Everyone nods. Music: The Whims of Fate     This room is just jumping across lights until we come to a vent we have to crawl through.  Music: Desire    Come on down and I will tell you where it is. Wh-What!? We’re not going to fall for a trick like that… *chuckle* It’s not a lie. I only wish to do this fair and square. Your Palace is a loving casino. Fair and square my rear end. You aren’t going to run, are you... We should do as she says. There is no point in hiding any longer. That seems like a bad idea, but you’re the detective, I guess  Hoo boy, now that’s a look for a Shadow. Not gonna lie… I’m kinda into it.  The Treasure is located on the Manager’s Floor, at the highest point of this building. ...Why are you telling us this? It’s as I said before… I wish to go about this in the fairest manner possible. First, I ask that you come up to my location. We will continue this there…  Shadow Sae snaps her fingers...   And she’s gone!      We technically have free roam of this room at the moment, but the only thing we can do here is enter a safe room. Let’s just head to the elevator instead. Music: Suspicion   Perhaps it bears relation to a player’s club of sorts. I can’t handle your technical speak! Just gimme it straight!“Technical” isn’t the word I’d use, Ryuji. Casinos typically have a membership system called a player’s club. Some locations even have areas cordoned off for particular ranks of player. Considering the setup of this place, I thought things may be similar here. That’ll make this poo poo simple. C’mon, let’s join this player thingy. I would agree with you, but…   As I expected. Registration will not be such a simple matter. She must be daring us to challenge the security of this place to make it to her. Tch, here it comes!    I promise to surpass even such lofty hopes as those. Music: Will Power       Don’t worry. You can leave this one to me.   Akechi already had his Persona, so no fancy awakening for him, sadly. Akechi is pretty drat useful, though. Akechi uses loving lightsabers as melee weapons...  ...and for a gun, he has a laser pistol with six shots.  He’s the only party member with access to the neutral Almighty element (Megidola is Heavy Almighty to all foes), can use Megaton Raid for Severe Physical damage to one foe, and can use a variety of Bless and Curse skills. He starts with Kouga and Eiga, single-target Medium Bless and Curse, as well as Hamaon and Mudoon, which are medium chances to instant-kill any non-boss with Bless or Curse. He starts with seven of his eight skill slots taken, with the one we can’t see right now being reserved for Fortify Spirit, a passive skill that reduces the chance of suffering a status ailment. He also learns all kinds of other poo poo. Almost too much, I’d say. He can revive people. He learns an automatic Tarukaja spell. In the endgame he gets Debilitate, which lowers all three stat parameters for a single foe (which can lead to some stupid damage numbers if you set it up correctly). He’s pretty versatile, is what I’m saying. He is weak to Curse, but his ability to use Curse anyway is great. His only real downside is that he’s something of an SP hog due to his starting lack of multi-target skills outside of Megidola, which can’t hit any weaknesses. If we want to knock anyone down with him, we’re gonna have to do it one at a time. Speaking of which, we actually can’t knock this guy down with Akechi. He resists everything except Curse, which he blocks, and Bless, which he’s neutral to. It’s kind of annoying because we can’t see his cut-in or his finisher in this fight, but the fight’s also really easy, to the point where I won’t bother uploading a video. Music: The Whims of Fate  And I am capable of much more. Now then, let us deal with the Shadows quickly. Wait. Doesn’t it sound like we’re gonna get ambushed based on what we heard earlier? ...I agree. I’d like to deal with them as quick as we can… But now that we have an infiltration route, I’d suggest we return for now and prepare. Very well, I trust your experience and judgment. Let us do that. Music: Beneath the Mask   Agreed. We will need to explain the steps to take though.  That is unnecessary. First we secure an infiltration route, then send the calling card. Correct? In doing so, the core of the ruler’s distorted desires will manifest into a physical form. By taking that core, the change of heart will be triggered. I deduce the steps would be something along those lines? A+. It ain’t as easy as it sounds. Don’t underestimate this poo poo. I am not underestimating anything, I assure you. By the way, Niijima-san’s Shadow seemed really confident... Come now, there is no need for hostility. I will simply have to come to Leblanc every day in that case. That’s not enough for now. Let’s prepare well for the coming task. Ah, yes. My apologies for somewhat derailing this conversation. We will be counting on you, Akechi. Failure is not an option here. Yes. I’ll do my best to live up to all of your expectations. The crucial moment’s finally here! Give it all you’ve got!     But I seriously believe the Phantom Thieves are innocent. By the way, I changed up the survey question. It’s already in flames though. It’s a problem for me too if people don’t think the Phantom Thieves are heroes… Just try and clear the stigma on your name as soon as you can, OK? I’m counting on you! So people are turning on us even in his survey? Our popularity is really at an all-time low…    However… He’s not the only traitor! Revive and fight, Phoenix Rangers! Next episode… “You Again, Hawk?”  Well, we're ready to start our Palace infiltration whenever we choose. But before we go:  This is Akechi’s Persona, Robin Hood. You loving know who Robin Hood is. Merry Men, Sherwood Forest, Maid Marian, robbing the rich and giving to the poor, apparently fought in the Crusades which I didn’t know but is pretty hosed up, etc. For real though, Robin Hood was a legendary outlaw of English folklore, a skilled archer and swordsman, who fought against the Sheriff of Nottingham, who took his lands for Prince John, who usurped the throne from the rightful King Richard. Sometimes he fought in the Crusades, sometimes he was just born a noble, it’s not terribly consistent and there’s tons of theories about its actual veracity, including one that posits he was a stock alias of English outlaws in general. Modern legends have updated some of this, too, but the legends are generally always that he fights injustice (like giving to the poor and stealing from the rich, of course) and remains loyal to the rightful king like the filthy monarchist that he is. Also the game wants to keep Akechi being a party member “secret” despite the fact that he’s on the loving boxart, so there’s no official Soejima portrait of Robin Hood like the other party member Personas. Instead, we have to use this concept art. Looking at it makes me realize that holy poo poo, Robin Hood is just All Might. Anyway, Akechi is voiced by Robbie Daymond, probably one of the better-known VAs in the cast for his role as Prompto from Final Fantasy XV, though he's also been in many other large roles like Sorey from Tales of Zestiria (an absolutely miserable game that you should not play) Mumen Rider in One Punch Man, Chrollo Lucilfer from Hunter x Hunter, and Ide in FLCL Progressive. He's also currently Spider-Man in a cartoon that I watched some of and didn't like. Anyway, Daymond's got an infectiously cheery voice, which helps sell certain aspects of Akechi's character rather well. Some of the more dramatic scenes end up being a little flatter though. 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Arist posted:
A bit of a typo there. Also, we've kinda been undermning other's privacy already, though they were proven poo poo heels for the most part. I do believe that if not forced, the Phantom Thieves wouldn't be doing this to Sae to begin with. In fact we've already invaded her privacy after we hacked her computer. What I'm saying is that we may be like modern-day Robin Hoods, we're also just like him in the sense that what we're doing is illegal. And being a total poo poo to Makoto is a pretty good reason to get involved. Arist posted:
Oh yeah, you find this out more in Mementos, but Futaba's a bit of a perv. You also find out some...interesting things about our party members in Mementos too. Also, do agree on this palace being the best one. The boss fights aren't too hard or bullshit(to me). Though not the best boss. THAT...is reserved for the next palace...
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so Akechi shouts UNITED KINGDOM OF SMASH then also I could never bench Haru for this nerd
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DeafNote posted:so Akechi shouts UNITED KINGDOM OF SMASH then Akechi is not nearly cool enough to do something like that.
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At what level does Robin Hood learn Texas Smash?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:At what level does Robin Hood learn Texas Smash? Since most of the Smashes are named after US States, Robin Hood's would be named after states-or this case,Reigons/counties -in England. Since Texas is the biggest state, it's England counterpart would be North Yorkshire Smash.
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KDavisJr posted:North Yorkshire Smash. North Yorkshire Tonk!
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:At what level does Robin Hood learn Texas Smash? Hunt11 posted:Akechi is not nearly cool enough to do something like that. Well, we finally have the final party member, so I think I can finally do some comparisons with the battle system from previous Persona. The baton pass is an absolutely fantastic addition and I like the gun system, but there's, in my opinion, a couple massive problems compared to four: 1) Way too many loving elements. Psio and nuke? I'm actually fine with those. The kouha and eiha lines though? That's when it starts being way too many elements, especially since everyone but Wonder Boy only gets one. The addition of bless and curse damaging attacks has another knock-on effect though, since why should you ever use a damaging attack when the relevant hama/mudo spell gives you an instakill while still granting you an Once More? Answer: because they either gave enemies an hidden resistance stat to instant death attacks or they lowered the chances way the gently caress down. Hamaon/mudoon with the appropriate boost still miss way too much against bless/curse-weak enemies, and I've loving seen Die for Me + mudo boost whiff on non-resistant enemies. Related to my complaint about bless/curse: look at Akechi. Look at his abilities. They copy-pasted Naoto's skill list. However, Naoto ate random encounters for breakfast since bless/curse-weak enemy meant a guaranteed hamaon/mudoon gib, while Akechi simply looks like an Ace Defective if he tries. I'll admit it's very appropriate but I'd be perfectly willing to accept some gameplay versus story dissonance for the sake of less frustration. 2) actual personas in random encounter instead of separate enemies. Problem: hooray now it's the endgame and I routinely face Emperor Frost, Scatach and other assorted no-weakness personas all day round. It's a small mercy we don't ever fight Yoshitsune. Bad already that the Once More system gets thrown out of the window in boss battles, I'd like to keep it at least in random encounters. Ok, Miracle Punch and One-shot Kill do exist but sometimes I'd like to assemble a team with neither Morgana nor Haru in it (no Joker is not enough for those he only has one action a turn) Also, I miss the Hulk Hogan enemies. No seriously,  were those?
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The only reason I remember that Hood fought in the crusades is Men in Tights.
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I can't get over what a huge fuckin' nerd Akechi is. His costume and his Persona, what the gently caress. He's a fanfiction self-insert character. No, no, guys, no look, he learns the ultimate super element that nobody else can control and also he was the youngest person ever admitted to
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And yet his costume has a huge nose because he can't help but stick it into places where it doesn't belong.
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Tae posted:The only reason I remember that Hood fought in the crusades is Men in Tights. Yeah, me too. That movie is hilarious. PoptartsNinja posted:And yet his costume has a huge nose because he can't help but stick it into places where it doesn't belong. Isn't that a plague doctor mask? Anyway, if this was Fate, Robin Hood would have No Face May King and Yew Bow available to him, plus a poison sabotage skill to be the perfect sniper, though it looks like Akechi is close enough to it to make it happen. Laser pistol and light saber and a bunch of instant kill skills and all that? Works for me. And yes, Whims of Fate is great.
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Omobono posted:The addition of bless and curse damaging attacks has another knock-on effect though, since why should you ever use a damaging attack when the relevant hama/mudo spell gives you an instakill while still granting you an Once More? And it's cheaper for SP/Allows recruiting?
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GhostStalker posted:Isn't that a plague doctor mask? It's bright red so it's more like a Tengu mask, but Tengu and modern "Plague Doctor" masks are patterned after crows so 
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PoptartsNinja posted:It's bright red so it's more like a Tengu mask, but Tengu and modern "Plague Doctor" masks are patterned after crows so Right, Crow. That makes more sense.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:And it's cheaper for SP/Allows recruiting? That should have been the balance, yes. They instead decided to cripple the hama and mudo lines. E: if I'm paying 50% more SP and one more skill slot I'd kinda like my skill to actually work as advertised (22 SP for makougaon, 34 for mahamaon) Omobono fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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HERE COMES A PLEASANT BOY HERE COMES A PLEASANT BOY HERE COMES A PLEASANT BOY HERE COMES A PLEASANT BOY
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Phantom Thief roll call! Joker! Skull! Mona! Panther! Fox! Queen! Oracle! Noir! CROOOOOOOOOOW!
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I could never find a spot for Akechi in my team. Barring personal feelings on him he offers a watered down version of what the mc brings to the table and he is stuck trying to have all this multipurpose utility in just 8 slots. Also just to make it clear he learns debilitate at level 70 so without insane grinding you are not seeing that skill anytime soon.
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Arist posted:Music: The Whims of Fate (Listen to this) No seriously, listen to this if you haven't yet. I would definitely put this as a top contender for best song in the game, and it absolutely is the best Palace theme, no contest. Also, I still love how Goro suddenly gets all excited when he finds out the calling card is a necessary step of the process and not just for the sake of theatrics. He's such a massive dork. 
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Goro is the perfect good boy, and I love him. Partially it's his dorky attitude, partly it's his absolutely ridiculous costume, but mostly, it's because of his combat... which I can't really talk about yet as we have not seen him in combat yet. Oh well, I can wait. And don't worry Arist, I dig Shadow Sae, too; something about the design... the hat, maybe? It's probably the hat. (The real reason is that this is probably the best Shadow in the game, and I will have a lot to say about it later!)
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OK, first I will note I've never played this game (or any of the Personas) so of course I'd rather not have these questions answered per se, but this opens an interesting can of worms. This place is pretty obviously the intro location (and the mention that the police station is part of Sae's Palace because she works there explains why the MC can be dragged there for interrogation), but if Shadow Sae has a hot goth gambler look to her, who the hell is doing the interrogation? I suppose Futaba showed the real person can in fact enter their own Palace, but how the hell did they get her in here? Real Sae somehow "betraying" them to the Shadow could explain the whole traitor thing (also why she's going through an interrogation when any realistic way of getting her here involves explaining most of this stuff in advance, they're playing Shadow Sae with it). Or maybe "real" Sae is actually the Treasure and the MC getting caught is a trick to lure said Treasure out. Look forward to seeing the explanation anyway.
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Oh yeah this is easily my favorite Palace I think he game, and the music plays a large part why. Also the idea that after 80 or so hours we've finally come full circle to the games intro. This is when the game grabs you and doesn't let go until the end. Especially after having to trudge through Okumara's palace.
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Akechi sucks and I never used him gently caress you dork
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MadDogMike posted:OK, first I will note I've never played this game (or any of the Personas) so of course I'd rather not have these questions answered per se, but this opens an interesting can of worms. This place is pretty obviously the intro location (and the mention that the police station is part of Sae's Palace because she works there explains why the MC can be dragged there for interrogation), but if Shadow Sae has a hot goth gambler look to her, who the hell is doing the interrogation? I suppose Futaba showed the real person can in fact enter their own Palace, but how the hell did they get her in here? Real Sae somehow "betraying" them to the Shadow could explain the whole traitor thing (also why she's going through an interrogation when any realistic way of getting her here involves explaining most of this stuff in advance, they're playing Shadow Sae with it). Or maybe "real" Sae is actually the Treasure and the MC getting caught is a trick to lure said Treasure out. Look forward to seeing the explanation anyway. Interesting, but could be simply that her shadow changed clothes between the casino and the police station. Though we've never see it, we've also never seen a dual building palace till now, and nothing in game has shown that either of these things is impossible. What if her shadow has two personalities?
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mastersord posted:What if her shadow has two personalities? So basically, her Shadow is the good cop and the bad cop?
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Akechi is such a pleasant boy and giving him Robin Hood is clever for several reasons.
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Oxxidation posted:HERE COMES A PLEASANT BOY
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Nasty Crimeboy and Nice Justiceboy: The team-up I'm pretty sure he's gonna be the one who rats us out. If not, I'm gonna be surprised.
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The police station isn't part of Sae's palace, the palace is the part of the Metaverse that's distorted from reality. The police station is there in real life and apparently no one's seeing a distorted version of it, so it's there in the Metaverse.
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GhostStalker posted:Yeah, me too. That movie is hilarious. That is actually *That* Robin Hood's kit, Like Hassan, and Jack The Ripper, Robin Hood is not a single servant, but a host of wraiths that all share the same name. So, if you want a subversive fighter Robin Hood, you'll get Green Man from Extra, if you want a Swordsman Robin Hood, you'll probably get a Loxely Robin Hood and so on.
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Omobono posted:Also, I miss the Hulk Hogan enemies.  Jushin Thunder Liger, who himself is based on an 80s anime. DMorbid fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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cdyoung posted:That is actually *That* Robin Hood's kit, Like Hassan, and Jack The Ripper, Robin Hood is not a single servant, but a host of wraiths that all share the same name. So, if you want a subversive fighter Robin Hood, you'll get Green Man from Extra, if you want a Swordsman Robin Hood, you'll probably get a Loxely Robin Hood and so on. Oh boy, more  about Fate, but I guess I walked right into that by bringing it up.And yes, I'm aware Robin Hood as presented in Fate is actually a composite character, as it says as much in the beginning of his character profile in GO, and the one in Extra and GO are but one persona of him; I just thought that No Face May King was a larger aspect of that, what with it possibly being representative of his multiple possible incarnations making it impossible to put a face to him being recognized, instead of just being the representation of the Green Man's Noble Phantasm cloak that makes him extra good at not being spotted for sniping purposes. Have we ever seen any other incarnation of Robin Hood besides the Green Man in Fate yet? Omobono posted:Also, I miss the Hulk Hogan enemies. Doc M posted:I liked the ones in Persona 4's Void Quest dungeon that were white and red and had horns, just like another well known (in Japan, anyway) wrestleman: The Hogan ones were always fun to see, as were the pig cops. But I'm especially fond of the tank and mecha looking ones, if only to find it hilarious when Chie Galactic Punt'ed one into space. Sure, the mecha ones were annoying to fight a lot of the time because they tended to Reflect or Null Physical and had tons of HP, but they usually had an elemental weakness and terrible defense, meaning they'd take massive damage once you figured it out and spammed it on them.
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GhostStalker posted:Oh boy, more sorry for doing that again, and currently no, it's only this robin hood and I doubt there will be any others unless they crop up in other fate media..
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I'm in agreement on Sae's inner self having a good look. It's like a goth was really into noir film femme fatales and it works for her.Arist posted:
Assuming the intention is to pin the blame on Maaku, regardless of proof, it's not the worst option. Maaku is a handy scapegoat with some legit suspicious circumstances and a background that lessens potential surprise and probing from society. On the investigation side, you know the Phantom Thieves started with the teacher at the school and the most recent change to the school before that was the transfer of the student with a criminal record. So that gives you an excuse for targeting him and maybe a bit of legitimate suspicion, especially when coupled with Kamoshida's known argument with the boys. Also, since Maaku is already listed as a criminal, the narrative is easy to build about why he'd turn to Phantom Thief murder, and the student part gives a reason for why the principal would be targeted at all, since I don't think we ever found out what the principal was accused of on those fake cards.
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Whims of Fate is the best song in the game. I feel like it's flashiness comes out of nowhere relative to the other palace tracks, which also fits from a narrative perspective because the game has been one big build up for the player learning the full context of the in media res opening. This whole section of the game is pretty fantastic in its aesthetics. Like Shadow Sae. Shadow Sae is amazing. It's so different from her civvy get up, but it also kinda really fits after the initial shock wears off. And her winged eyeliner is badass.
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Blue Labrador posted:Whims of Fate is the best song in the game. I feel like it's flashiness comes out of nowhere relative to the other palace tracks, which also fits from a narrative perspective because the game has been one big build up for the player learning the full context of the in media res opening. This whole section of the game is pretty fantastic in its aesthetics. Actually, the eyeliner is what basically ruins her look for me. Everything else she's got going on is great, though. Robindaybird posted:I think I'd like the eyeliner if it weren't so thick, but overall I am digging the Goth Noir look Yeah, that's basically my problem with it; less is more, as they say. W.T. Fits fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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I think I'd like the eyeliner if it weren't so thick, but overall I am digging the Goth Noir look
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I like how both the song and the signs around the Casino tell you everything you need to know about Sae's inner views. The big signs on the Casino saying "Winner Justice" and "DEATH to the LOSER"
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MonsterEnvy posted:I like how both the song and the signs around the Casino tell you everything you need to know about Sae's inner views. Saeto Kaiba.
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