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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Also coffee dad is great and I'll not hear a bad word about him, based on what we've seen so far.

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Montegoraon
Aug 22, 2013

ChaosArgate posted:

Yeah that doesn't sound shady at all, like, you're getting room and board from him and the occasional free meal, the least you can do is help out every now and again.

Sure. Except it's illegal. This is a very, very minor spoiler, but it hasn't come up yet so a couple times Sojiro has to make the excuse that you're a part timer he's hired rather than a ward because he's not supposed to be making you work for him. Nothing of significance comes of it, though..

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 43: 6/4-6/5: Blazer It



Music: So Boring



It takes an hour to do my hair due to the humidity, and it’s a bother deciding what to wear when it rains. But for you, June is a month with no holidays and no events. Now that I think about it, you’ll be switching to summer uniforms next week. I don’t want everyone forgetting, OK? Don’t charge out the door in your blazers. On that note, Mr. Hamiru. The original blazers were named that thanks to a certain quality they had. Any idea what it was?



Excellent! Our blazers are black, of course, but the original ones were a bright, vivid red. It was mostly used to refer to the jackets worn by a British boating club in the 1800s.

Maaku gains Knowledge +1.

Somewhere along the line, I suppose the style got lost with the name’s original meaning. After all, just look at us. Nowadays, blazers don’t have to have any color at all…
Not that that’s a bad thing. I think black is pretty stylish…

Music: Beneath the Mask -Rain (Instrumental Version)



I’ve been thinking a lot since then though… Do you have time to talk?
>Hang out with her
Thanks. Does the diner work for you?

Music: Alright (Elp Version)



And you know what she did? Laughed! She couldn’t stop talking about how tough she thought Mika sounded.

I feel like the Shiho Ann talks about and the one we saw are very different people.

Honestly though… it was kinda refreshing. I’m not even mad anymore. I guess you really just need someone to laugh at you if you want to feel better.




I’ve seen the truth of that saying firsthand… But anyway, even though I’m trying to strengthen my heart… Shiho’s the real strong one here.



I went to one of her rehab sessions the other day… She said she wanted me to be there… So I agreed without thinking much of it, but it ended up being… pretty overwhelming.



Music: Alleycat

It was a lot tougher than I’d ever imagined… It was horrible. She was dripping with sweat, teeth clenched… She was clearly in a lot of pain… Apparently… she can’t even move her feet. She said it feels like her legs are filled with sand… But she dragged them along, legs swollen with blood… I wanted to just make her stop… By the time it was all over, she was in tears. It was really tough on her… She said she wanted to give up… And that’s why she asked me to come… To keep her motivated. The whole time she was complaining about things in ways she normally never would… But even with that… she finished her session...



I didn’t have to go through that… ...Is it because I’m weak?



You’re wrong. You know, even through all that pain, I thought Shiho was so cool… beautiful, even. Despite all her complaining… she still tried incredibly hard. Strength is more than just not getting fazed… It’s the power to fight through adversity. So I was thinking, and um… what can I do to help Shiho?




How can you help Shiho? Well, have you tried making the problem about yourself?

...Yeah, I’ll do just that. I’m gonna give it my all…! You know Maaku, being with you really helps me see things clearly. What I should do, the true meaning of strength… Well… thank you for that.
I sense a heightened motivation from Ann...



Ugh, my nose is all runny...



Wh-What are you looking at me like that for? Pretty girls get runny noses too, you know! Well, see you around.

Music: Beneath the Mask



I’m sure it’ll be fine. So far nobody’s come charging us with anything, yeah?
But wouldn’t he wait to press charges until AFTER the exhibition? What should we do if someone contacts us about it tomorrow…?
Try asking Yusuke. He’s still staying with Madarame, right?
Oh, that’s right… Where is Yusuke? I wonder if he’ll be OK with Madarame...



I believe he is preparing for a media announcement. I didn’t hear anything about pressing charges.
Guess we just gotta wait then.
Let us meet in Shibuya tomorrow.
OK! See you then!
The exhibition is finally ending tomorrow… I’m sure things will work out fine this time too.



The earth-shattering appearance of a new leader! Revive and fight, Phoenix Rangers! Next episode… “His Name Is Feather Red.”

I was about that age when Power Rangers was a thing so these fake sentai shows make me nostalgic.



Sadly, yes.



Have you been studying? Don’t start slacking off just because you’re done with exams, OK? It’ll cost you 5,000 yen to request me, but this time I’ll be sure to do an extra good job!




Don’t make me change my mind.

I’ll be heading over right now then… It’d be helpful if you can clean up a bit before I get there so that it’s easier for meeee. ♥

Wait, what? gently caress, I’m already kind of doing you a favor just by paying 50 bucks to hang out with you.

Music: What’s Going On?



If it’s for you, Master, I’ll happily be covered in dust! But then, doesn’t it pain your heart to see such a cute maid all dirty?



I so wish I could pick the second option just to keep with the running theme of Maaku’s exasperation with this whole mess but alas.



I’ll go ahead and get this over with then!



And now, cleaning is complete!



Music: My Homie



…… I’m not allowed to work overtime during weekdays, so I rush to my part-time job after class ends. On my off days, I have to prepare pop quizzes and homework assignments… And today, I had to clean bathtubs and walk dogs before coming here. There’s no time to rest… Oh, speaking of pets, this room smells like a cat… I feed a lot of strays around my house… ...I was surprised that you requested me. I didn’t think you actually would.




Why, I never!



I know I’m in a maid outfit, but I’m still your teacher, so don’t get any funny ideas. Besides… I try not to get too involved with my students, so… *yawn* …I need a nap… Sorry, just give me five minutes… Maybe ten...



This is embarrassing for all of us, Maaku.



...Oh, hey, do you know of any part-time jobs that pay well? I assume you make a lot, since you can afford a maid service… Well, let me know if you do.



Well… uh...



She’s sick so I need money to pay her medical expenses...




Yes, I made the transfer...

Music: Suspicion



N-No… Yes, I understand. OK, goodbye...



Oh! W-Wrong number!

I’d get annoyed that she clearly thinks Maaku is an idiot, but she saw his exam scores so I can’t blame her.

Hey, sorry to ask you this out of the blue, but… Do you happen to have one hundred thousand yen I could borrow…?

Uhhhh, what?



Wait, n-never mind! Owing one of my students money would be the worst… Hey, you may have some money, but be mindful of how you spend it. You shouldn’t be wasting it on services like this.



Again, I’m doing you a favor here.

...I need the money, so I do appreciate you requesting me. However, you’re my student, so if we were to get involved further, things would get complicated… I did warn you! The rest is your responsibility! You’re a high schooler after all.
I can sense Kawakami’s trust in me...



*sigh* Three more to go… ...Well, I’ll see you later, Master!
Kawakami left...





Is he crying…?

Music: Regret



Plainly put… I, um… plagiarized work...




This is one of the best portraits in the game. It’s just so absurdly over-the-top.



...And that was from the urgent apology conference by Madarame that took place just a moment ago. After reporting to the association, Madarame has agreed to the police’s request to turn himself in.
Wasn’t he on TV the other day?
On top of charges of abuse to his pupils, Madarame is under suspicion of claiming their works as his own. Some doubt the validity that his maiden work “Sayuri” was stolen, believing it was used for fraud. This large-scale criminal act has caused a great shock to the art world, and...
That old man’s done for.
After the conference, Madarame was taken to a police hospital for interrogation due to his age. However, initial psych evaluations state that he is mentally sound and likely responsible for his actions.

They churn those psych evals out quick, eh?

There’s no need to be nice to an old geezer like that.
Why’d he spill the beans himself? Doesn’t that seem weird?
Also, a group calling themselves the Phantom Thieves posted a dubious note at Madarame’s exhibit. The police will investigate their relation to this case, but for now, did not identify them as suspects.
Phantom Thieves? Do these bandits have somethin’ to do with that old geezer’s apology?
Ohh, I’ve heard of them before. They supposedly steal evil hearts; it’s why the culprits apologize.
Wait, what? Steal hearts? That’s impossible though.
But I feel like I saw somethin’ about that online too. They sent out a calling card for real.
So it was like, “We’re going to take your heart?” That’s impressive if someone really did that.




Music: Break it Down




Man, this is startin’ to get interesting… If we do it right, we can change people’s hearts. With this power… we might be able to do more than just gettin’ back at society. It’ll be a big deal!



Let’s keep pushin’ on then! As for me, I hope we just keep gettin’ more and more famous!
Something like this happening twice is massive too. It’s too great a coincidence to occur normally.
If we continue doing this, we’ll definitely be able to give courage to everyone who needs it.



Two men walk up.

...We may want to quiet down a little.

Music: Disquiet

Do you know them?
You moron! Those’re attendance officers!



Ah, yes! How can we help you?
That monotonous acting of hers never fails to send a chill down my spine.
What are you all doing here? Are you friends?



What’re you gonna do about it, cop?

Hm…? What did you say?
A-Ahaha! Th-That was a joke! He didn’t get much sleep last night.
Well, all right. Just make sure you disperse before it gets too late, OK? There have been some odd happenings lately, and the news about that artist has caused quite the stir.
We’ll be careful!



Hey, don’t go making stuff up on the spot like that, OK…!? I totally panicked ‘cause of you!
...From now on, we’ll need to be even more cautious than before. Look at us! Right after the second Thieves incident, both prior victims are meeting up.
Wait, you mean people might be listening to us…?
Eh, it’ll be fine. Look around. We’re the only people worryin’ about it.
I guess you’re right...
By the way, Yusuke… You able to get anything out of Madarame? Remember how he was talkin’ about that suspicious person in the black mask?
Well… I pressed him for answers, but he doesn’t even understand what happened to him to begin with.
It’s not like he actually saw his desires get stolen, after all.
It’s rumored that he may be sent to prison. In that case, gaining information will be difficult...
So, what’re you gonna do now?
I’ll be leaving that hourse. I can’t draw in such a place anymore.

Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)

Do you have somewhere to go?
The school dorms. I can stay there free of charge thanks to my fine-arts scholarship.
A scholarship!? Wait, you’re that good…?
Although, Takamaki-san’s house would do as well.

Ugggggggghhhhhhh

...Wait, WHAT!?
You know, you could ask her to model for you whenever you wanted!
You moron!
Then again, now that Yusuke’ll be livin’ alone, it’ll be easier for us to meet up whenever we want.
For the time being, we should wait and see how this case plays out.
And it’ll prolly take some time findin’ a target as big as Madarame.
Anyway, we should just act like normal students while we look for our next target, OK?
We’ll be entrusting that to you again, Ryuji.
All right. Guess it’s just more prep ‘til then.



Makoto leaves. Maaku looks over his shoulder before leaving with the others.

Music: Interrogation Room




You were sent away twice, almost reported to the police… and yet you still wanted to save him? Moreover, you ended up in a museum instead of a castle this time… You’re still going to maintain this rubbish about changing someone’s heart by stealing their Treasure?



Very well. The truth behind this tale of yours will be clear once your conspirators are in custody. Now then, tell me about this new member who joined your group. There’s no point in being stubborn. It will only damage your position. The identity of Madarame’s pupil can be easily discovered with a little investigation.



Fuckin’ do it, I don’t care.

So you won’t sell out your accomplice? ...Fine. There’s still much more that I want to hear. It was around this time that the Phantom Thieves began to truly gain popularity. Lies flooded the internet—things like “The Phantom Thieves saved me too” or “I got a calling card”… For heaven’s sake… those lies made the collection of intel take almost ten times longer. Now, your next target was this man...



He doesn’t compare to the previous two. Even the police had been struggling to apprehend him. So, exactly how did you take down such a well-guarded criminal? Tell me.



Music: Disquiet



A full psychiatric evaluation will be performed to further investigate the crime’s details and motives.



I’ve found a number of points of commonality between the two. Both, for example, were sent a “calling card” before their unforeseen changes of heart.
…I see. But isn’t tying their cases to the series of psychotic breakdowns jumping to conclusions? Furthermore, the police will frown upon you stepping into this…
Now isn’t the time to be worrying about things like jurisdiction and honor…! We need to dig deeper and find a correlation among the incidents these past two, three years.
Very well. I leave it to you… However, you must not let this interfere with your regular duties.
Thank you, sir.

Sae leaves.





Oh poo poo, this guy’s a politician!?

I shall continue to put forth great effort so that every citizen can live with peace of mind.
Not only are there these Phantom Thieves to worry about, but if that is exposed… Tch...

There’s more going on that we don’t know about…

Arist fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Apr 29, 2018

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Small little link between both breakdowns: Kamoshida says something along the lines of "I have committed acts unbecoming of a teacher", and Madarame says the same thing, just with "teacher" replaced by "artist".

Kevos Setzer
Dec 1, 2004

I can transform, right?
Kawakami's link is redeeming itself. Sure, just crash on your student's bed like it's nothing. In the middle of cleaning his room as part of a "maid service".

She's going to keep being unintentionally hilarious, isn't she?

I have to call this out too:


Makoto might have learned more here than she ever has in her attempts at following Maaku.

Kevos Setzer fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Aug 17, 2017

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?

Arist posted:



What’re you gonna do about it, cop?

As God is my witness, I've never been able to resist choosing this line every time, either. Both because a) cops, ick; B) Maaku seems like the sort of person to do that anyway; and C) it's not really like we can make any claim to secrecy that makes sense, given that we are here, on a public glass bridge, flagrantly discussing sensitive matters where any schmuck can hear them and relate them back to the recent broadcast. You shouldn't go, but if you're going to go, why not go all the way?

Montegoraon
Aug 22, 2013

Arist posted:

Now that I think about it, you’ll be switching to summer uniforms next week. I don’t want everyone forgetting, OK? Don’t charge out the door in your blazers. On that note, Mr. Hamiru. The original blazers were named that thanks to a certain quality they had. Any idea what it was?



Once again, there's the correct answer according to the game, and then there's the correct answer in your heart.

Sadly, the game only ever has a generic response if you give a different answer.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Eh, I picked the tea part.

And I also picked the 'what does it look like to you'.

Ann panics either way.

TheDavies
Mar 27, 2010

Arist posted:



This is embarrassing for all of us, Maaku.

No it isn't! :allears:

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

resurgam40 posted:

As God is my witness, I've never been able to resist choosing this line every time, either. Both because a) cops, ick; B) Maaku seems like the sort of person to do that anyway; and C) it's not really like we can make any claim to secrecy that makes sense, given that we are here, on a public glass bridge, flagrantly discussing sensitive matters where any schmuck can hear them and relate them back to the recent broadcast. You shouldn't go, but if you're going to go, why not go all the way?

Why are truancy officers hassling a group of teens just hanging out in public in the middle of a day when there's no school anyway, seeing as how it is Sunday after all? Overhearing the group talking about Phantom Thief stuff might explain it, but still, don't they have better things to do? And really, we need a less public meeting place.

Kawakami's Confidant continues to be among the best.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Aug 18, 2017

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
The same writers who thought/think Yusuke blackmailing Ann was hilarious somehow made Kawakami's slink ridiculous rather than incredibly creepy, and I'm honestly not sure how

also I feel like we should have actually met Shiho again by now

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!

Kevos Setzer posted:

Kawakami's link is redeeming itself. Sure, just crash on your student's bed like it's nothing. In the middle of cleaning his room as part of a "maid service".

Maaku literally just paid her to take a nap. That's hilarious.

Cyouni
Sep 30, 2014

without love it cannot be seen
Really, it'd be nice to meet Shiho again when she isn't also being pressured by Kamoshida. Getting away from that probably did wonders for her.

Kawakami's link is pretty hilarious.

I did say he was going to end up being a high up politician with how he talked about controlling the police and steering the country.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
This Confidant started out sketchy, but managed to turn into something funny pretty quickly. I wonder who she owes money to.

Also, Madarame's breakdown seemed pretty abrupt compared to Kamoshida's. I guess since we weren't there in person. The whole "I stood by and let someone die of a seizure" detail being left out as well.

Rawkking
Sep 4, 2011

Arist posted:


Later in the day, we head on over to Shi-oh goddammit, again?



Are you alone? Are you going to meet Sakamoto-kun and Takamaki-san? U-Um, I don’t mean to pry. I was simply wondering. A-Ah, yes… There are errands to do. I must be going. Hmmm… First to the pharmacy, then shopping at Rocinante...


Oh man, I didn't get (or at least notice) this one in my playthrough. When I tried to see if she follows you into Shibuya I tried and failed to see her in the central street, instead I spotted her in the underground mall. I hope the LP doesn't miss her there because it's not as obvious as other appearances.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Hobgoblin2099 posted:

This Confidant started out sketchy, but managed to turn into something funny pretty quickly. I wonder who she owes money to.

The HAND. Their reach is long.

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!
The characters talking about sensitive information in public is annoying me, and I'm beginning to realize why. Persona 3 set down the foundations for how Persona 4 and 5 have operated, but Persona 3 had an easier setup for its characters. 3's cast had a private dorm to plan their clandestine activities in and a mega-corporation feeding them intel and supplies. Secrecy wasn't a big concern.

4's and 5's cast also work in secret but don't have any of the resources, so a big part of their plots revolves around staying undetected. However, 4's cast did all their planning and even entered the TV world in the equivalent of a Walmart, and so far 5's cast has plotted on the roof of their own school and a public bridge. High schoolers aren't the most cunning people, but I'd like to think these guys would be a little smarter about where they'd meet up or when they'd share sensitive information. Feels like the writers don't want to give them reasonable ways to be covert, maybe because it's easier to write situations with contrived tension that way.

I hope 5's cast gets a proper hideout eventually.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Mizuti posted:

The characters talking about sensitive information in public is annoying me, and I'm beginning to realize why. Persona 3 set down the foundations for how Persona 4 and 5 have operated, but Persona 3 had an easier setup for its characters. 3's cast had a private dorm to plan their clandestine activities in and a mega-corporation feeding them intel and supplies. Secrecy wasn't a big concern.

4's and 5's cast also work in secret but don't have any of the resources, so a big part of their plots revolves around staying undetected. However, 4's cast did all their planning and even entered the TV world in the equivalent of a Walmart, and so far 5's cast has plotted on the roof of their own school and a public bridge. High schoolers aren't the most cunning people, but I'd like to think these guys would be a little smarter about where they'd meet up or when they'd share sensitive information. Feels like the writers don't want to give them reasonable ways to be covert, maybe because it's easier to write situations with contrived tension that way.

I hope 5's cast gets a proper hideout eventually.

Reasonable point.

I think it was less damaging in four, though, since the worry with going to the law was "They'll never believe us" as opposed to "Ninety percent conviction rate."

Dojima starts questioning them pre-Naoto, it'd just end with Yu deadpanning everything, just as it happened, and Dojima grumbling about his smartass nephew.

Here, the protagonists are constantly worried about THE MAN finding out about their actions, which makes their lack of security stand out like a sore thumb.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME
Honestly if I were them I'd rent a karaoke room somewhere. Soundproofed walls to keep Ryuji's yelling concealed to even the best snoopers in town. Also you get free drinks depending on the formula, and they're super cheap during off hours (early afternoon to the evening)

KDavisJr
Jul 17, 2010

A real avatar never dies, even when it's replaced!

Kevos Setzer posted:

Makoto might have learned more here than she ever has in her attempts at following Maaku.

Maaku probably knew Makoto was following him and gave her the slip every time.

Though meeting in the open like that is a very bad idea and I'm surprised no one said anything about it.


GhostStalker posted:

Why are truancy officers hassling a group of teens just hanging out in public in the middle of a day when there's no school anyway, seeing as how it is Sunday after all? Overhearing the group talking about Phantom Thief stuff might explain it, but still, don't they have better things to do? And really, we need a less public meeting place.

Kawakami's Confidant continues to be among the best.

I suspect it's related to something else that may be coming up soon.

Deltasquid posted:

Honestly if I were them I'd rent a karaoke room somewhere. Soundproofed walls to keep Ryuji's yelling concealed to even the best snoopers in town. Also you get free drinks depending on the formula, and they're super cheap during off hours (early afternoon to the evening)

I think a karaoke room would still be kind of problematic since it's out in the public. The best place is somewhere that they won't have to worry about anyone walking in on them.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


KDavisJr posted:

I think a karaoke room would still be kind of problematic since it's out in the public. The best place is somewhere that they won't have to worry about anyone walking in on them.

Maaku's room is pretty large and out of the way of anyone besides Sojiro, who seems like a cool enough guy to let you have small get togethers, unless I missed something. Doesn't help at the school though.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 44: 6/5-6/7: Eavesdrop City

Music: Beneath the Mask



I heard customers say it’s gotten pretty dangerous over there. Don’t let yourself be a target, got it?




I most certainly am not. I must express my gratitude earnestly.
You’re one of us now, man. We’ll be counting on you, mkay?
Of course.
And if anything comes up, we won’t hesitate to lend a hand.
Thank you. Well then, see you.
Well, there were a lot of ups and downs, but we still pulled off our first job! Yusuke joined the team too, so let’s continue reforming society like this!



He has admitted to selling copies of his famous painting “Sayuri” as the genuine article. Police intend to thoroughly investigate Mr. Madarame for fraud...
Madarame is on TV! This is getting to be major news.



It’s Sunday, you know what that means! Maaku gains Charm +1.



I can’t take it anymore, man! Guess I gotta change the world myself, buuuddy!



...Partying as hard as I can at the club, m’dude! Oh yeeeah!

We all handle these trying times in different ways.



Someone finally exposed Madarame for stealing art. What will happen to the pieces themselves?



Do they even have any value? Sorry, just curious. I used to be really into art. Maybe now my art can live on unsullied… S’pose I owe the Phantom Thieves for this.



Info has started pouring into the Phan-Site too. I’m gonna be a busy bee!



Yeah, it was right at the end of the exhibit. It’s obvious that there’s some ulterior motive.
They spent so much money on all those ads. The people backing Madarame must be panicking.
It’s every man for himself in this world. It’s pretty rotten when I think about it.




I even hear there’s a bunch a thieves on the loose! C’mon, lemme take ya home.
You’re overreacting. Besides, the Phantom Thieves are on our side.

We haven’t seen these two before because their conversations haven’t been terribly relevant or interesting, but they’re engaged in a game-long argument about him wanting her to return home to the countryside.



Please know that you can direct your criticism and outrage at me! I, Toranosuke Yoshida, will someday find a way to address your concerns in Nagata-cho… Oh, Hamiru-kun. How’s your schoolwork? By the way, what’s your opinion about our current government? I feel that they’re wrong, so I plan on addressing that during my speech. I’d like you to listen to it, so you can give me your honest opinion.
>Help him out
Really? That would be helpful. Well then, let’s get to it.



However, the current administration refuses to discuss their plans for the future… Can we really accept such an utter lack of transparency!?




So he’s just echoing another politician’s criticism of the government?
Apparently. Tch, whatever…

Music: Suspicion



Stop talking all big, you ex-convict!
Urgh, It seems I’ve drawn the ire of the audience once again. So he’s claiming those who have made mistakes in the past shouldn’t get a second chance? What can I say to that?





Wh-What’s up with this kid?





But that has nothing to do with my arguments! These are things I learned from all my hardships.



Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)



The highlight, though, was your yelling.




Conveying your thoughts with such conviction. I wish I had done that in the past… ...OK, that is all for today.




...I’ve been wrong this whole time. Even though someone has failed in the past, it doesn’t mean that person can’t try again. Th-That’s all I wanted to say!
Please wait! Thank you! ...That is all I wanted to say.
You’re a strange one, just like that kid.



I have a bad habit of getting flustered whenever someone calls me No-Good Tora. But you see me as someone of value, so I refuse to cower to criticism in front of you. Today you taught me that I must have more confidence in my arguments.



My way of thinking changes when I’m with you. Perhaps it’s the influence of your youthful sprit. Ah, my apologies. It seems we’re out of time.
I feel like helping with the speech has served to increase my Charm...

Maaku gains Charm +3.

Good work today. I’ll see you again soon.



Anon: i just can’t
Anon: What about the pupils?
Anon: they can’t catch EVERYONE
Anon: they’re just making threats


And just like that, our percentage doubles.



Anon: It’s just a coincidence…
Anon: ppl who buy this… -_-
Anon: thieves are the bad ones
Anon: good time killer here
Anon: pics or it didn’t happen


This game’s got some good dated internet slang.

That’s a calling card from the Phantom Thieves, right?
The way it’s written seems pretty legit...
Have they really stolen people’s hearts?
I can’t believe the Phantom Thieves actually exist...

Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)



The response to Madarame’s press conference was huge! Everyone’s talkin’ about the calling card. Girls are checkin’ me out today… Maybe they can’t help but sense my overflowin’ phantom thief charisma? Oh poo poo, am I finally startin’ to be popular with all the fly hon-- ...Oh no!

Maaku takes a moment to thank the universe for preventing Ryuji from speaking the phrase “fly honeys” in Motherfucking TYOOL (Whatever Year This Is).



Of course there is! My uniform, man! My uniform! We’re s’posed to switch to summer uniforms today! I knew people were lookin’ at me… Oh, goddammit! I gotta go home and change, so you go on ahead!




Ha, “Pallid Fella.” This game likes to get cute with the random NPC titles sometimes.

Watching that famous artist cry his eyes out over all the artwork he’s stolen… The same thing happened to Kamoshida, right? Both got weird calling cards, too… If you ask me, the same person is behind all this.
The news this morning said a group called #Millennials are the ones behind the cards. I wonder how they get people to confess. I mean, they can’t literally be “stealing hearts.” ...Blackmail, maybe?

Music: Disquiet



I have nothing to report yet...
Nothing at all? How many students are there who could provoke a teacher?
I’ve already narrowed it down. I just… can’t get any solid evidence.

That’s pretty sad, considering how bad we are at hiding it. Our hideout is in a public, heavily trafficked location, for crying out loud.

*sigh*
You knew, didn’t you…? About Mr. Kamoshida sexually harassing students.

The principal looks away.



What will come of you asking that?
This investigation is for a just cause, correct?
I believe I understand how flustered this must be making you. I’m sure it was truly shocking for you as student council president to see a peer attempt suicide...
Yes...
We must provide a school environment where all students can feel at ease. That is the most pressing issue we have to tackle at the moment.
So that’s your reason behind this investigation on the Phantom Thieves of Hearts? We don’t even know if they truly exist. Why are you--
You heard about the incident with that Madarame fellow, I assume?
...They said there was a similar calling card to the one used in Mr. Kamoshida’s case.
I wish to believe that this is unrelated to our students.
Yes...
That is where I stand. I suggest you devote your energy to the task at hand, not unnecessary questions.



*nods*

Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)



You mean that guy who was all like, “How could I possibly… apologize for what I’ve done… Aaaah...”?
Think it was really those phantom thieves? You know, the whole stealing your heart thing.
That… There’s no way. But then again… it seems too convenient for it all to just be coincidence.




I just started lookin’ yesterday. No way I’m gonna find one that quick.
Oh yeah. I guess that’s true. By the way, I decided on the TV station. What about you two?
Huh…? Oh crap, the social studies trip! Ugh, I just wanna ditch it…
You’d better go to your school activities. Didn’t I tell you not to draw attention to yourselves?
Wouldn’t me suddenly turnin’ into a good student stand out more?
Quit bickering and go.



I heard we’re gonna get to watch them tape a show! Maybe there’ll be actresses there!



Oh well. Not like I got anything better to do than waitin’ for info to come in online. Plus, Morgana’s right. Showin’ up’ll keep the teachers from gettin’ all suspicious of me. All right, I’m gonna head back. (to self) TV, huh… Maybe I should get a haircut...



Look at his big dumb idiot grin.

That guy is such an idiot… I hope nothing happens...

Music: So Boring



Madarame is the only topic of conversation at my school. And as I’m his pupil, most of my peers have chosen to ignore me.
For real? That’s bullshit.
Are you going to be OK?
There is no need to worry. They had already been treating me differently from others as it stood. This is nothing new to me.
OK then...



Great idea!
I will keep myself free. Please tell me if anything comes up.

Music: Beneath the Mask -Rain (Instrumental Version)





That’s a secret.

As funny as this is, it’s not actually him.

Anyway, here are the details. The girl acting like a queen is Hikari Shimizu. I wonder if it’s more likely that a girl will turn out like that if she has S as an initial… Well, I already posted the warning, so you should take it on when you have the time! Hopefully you don’t end up an M!



Morgana’s so pure and innocent.

Anyway, it seems like she’s a worthy target. Let’s find time to consult the others at the hideout.

We’re not actually going to head into Mementos today, because we need our night period.




You think maybe the Phantom Thieves go to our school? That’d be exciting, wouldn’t it?
That’s great and all, but I’m more excited by something else. Our field trip is coming up, and I want to go see the TV station!

Nearly every single person in the game has had their dialogue update, so we’ll be doing a lot of checking on various people today. Now that #Millennials have made their debut, there’s a lot of buzz, especially around the school.




I kinda thought they were fake, but maybe they do exist after all… Y’know, that logo’s actually pretty cool. Did he draw that? Is he a fan of theirs? I never would’ve expected it from a stern guy like him…
Our name’s starting to get out there. I’m excited to see what happens next!



The other blackboard has updated once more.



What have Sakamoto-kun and Takamaki-san been saying about that shocking Madarame case? O-Oh, um… never mind. I was simply curious. I-I should start heading home too. If you’ll excuse me...



Let me get your opinion on this. What do you think is the Phantom Thieves’ objective?



There’s a lot of bad guys in the world, so I’d like to support the Phantom Thieves too. For the newspaper club, I’ll continue to watch for what the Phantom Thieves will do next.



Next, we head over to the guy who’s being stalked.

Oh, yeah, when I looked up the Phantom Thieves online, I found this weird blog by a crazy person. Her blog’s called “Phantom Thieves want to Steal My Boyfriend.” She mentions “blood storms”… a lot.
Whoa. She really sounds deranged. I feel bad for her boyfriend, whoever he is.



After that artist, though, those Phantom Thieves might come back to steal Ikesugi-kun’s heart! If they come, I’ll show them no mercy. I’ll make them bleed… It’ll be a blood storm! *giggle*



Wow! Maybe we know them!
I dunno. Everyone here is so… ordinary.
Maybe, but with all the other crazy stuff that’s gone on at Shujin, nothing would surprise me now!




With all the attention I’ve been getting, I’ve got no privacy. You can’t possibly understand. But there’s no time to relax. On the Phantom Thief fan sites, so many people need saving. The world is filled with villains. It’s up to the heroes to get rid of them! Yes, it’s my destiny...




You’re too nice, Sensei. Who cares about their feelings if they’re bad guys?
By the way, are the Phantom Thieves still big news? Our school doesn’t need more bad publicity...



I’m really grateful to them for saving me. If they really exist, I’d like to cheer them on…
Why don’t you try posting online on a fan site? You never know, they might be checking those out.

Aww.



Such a disgrace. A famous guy like him, exploiting his own pupil. But I want to know more about the Phantom Thieves. They did the same thing to Kamoshida.
What if they actually went to Shujin? I wonder if they’d join the basketball team.

No thanks. I’ve had enough of them balls for a lifetime.





I SEE YOU MAKOTO

Haha, I knew you’d say something like that. Maybe you should see if you can join the Phantom Thieves.



It’s better that it’s early, idiot. There’s a lot more high schoolers around this time of day. People are more careful at night, too.
I get you… Meaning there’s more idiots who’d fall for our scams.

That seemed shady. Better not tell anyone about it!



Maaku gains Knowledge +3 and Guts +1.

Music: Beneath the Mask



You don’t look half bad. Hard to tell you’ve got a criminal record.

Aww, thanks Soji.



She’s still stalking me, does that count?

Miss Honor Student must be busy kissing rear end somewhere.
You don’t have to be so harsh...
What is this about a student council president?
The one at our school has kinda been keeping tabs on us. I think she’s suspicious of us.
Are you sure it is not merely a result of Ryuji’s general misconduct?
Shuddup!
Though to be honest, the three of you most certainly stand out. Do try to be careful.



I’ll make sure to keep an eye on Ryuji too.
Why do you gotta single me out…?
The others kinda overshadow you sometimes, but don’t forget: You’re famous too.

PersonaProtagonist.txt

Just make sure you’re careful, OK?



There’s also reports of a strange letter from a group who call themselves “#Millennials.” Police are carefully investigating whether this group may have any relation to the case.
Oh, they’re talking about the calling card we sent! And they said our name on TV!



Time to feed our plant. Maaku gains Kindness +2.



Oh, my son! He shtole paintings, s-scammed innashent people. Saying sorry… S’not enough! What c-can I dooo…? What do I hafta do sho you fergive meee?



Let’s explore all three options here.

Tha’s too cruel… Pleeeash, I’m beggin’ you… He usedta be such a good boy… He’d draw all the tiiiime, sho many pretty picturrrres… He was… jus’ like a potato...



Oh thaaank you… You made, me, hish mother, shooo gradeful! How could he steal hish own mee-other’s painting!? Mee-other. Meeeee-other. Meeeow. Meow, Meow!



*retch* A-Are you serious? Ya leave me no choish. I’ll bare my body and sh-sh-soul. My shekshi body! Muh ultra soulll!

I love this guy.



Yeah, I can only watch the news, too. I wonder what else they’re gonna do to make us study harder.
It’s so boring. Even if I turn on the TV, all they show is some old guy crying like a baby.
Oh! I made my teacher laugh when I pretended to cry like that old guy. I hope I get extra credit!



Maaku gains Charm +3.




And while he’s at it, he ranks up!



Anon: C’mon, more sacrifices!
Anon: news was hilarious tho lol
Anon: ppl rly believe this? lmao
Anon: plz get all the bad guys
Anon: what a joke


You’re in high school, right? I know a good part-time job…
They still haven’t caught whoever sent that calling card?
I’m actually a phantom thief. Wanna go grab some coffee?
Did some idiot leak pictures again?



Anon: What’re they after?

Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)



Now for today’s Train News. Today’s headlines are… “Calling Card at Madarame Exhibit!” The police are evaluating whether this is a true threat or a prank. “Scam Outbreak in Shibuya!” Students are the primary victims. Organized crime is suspected here.
Students getting scammed? That’s scary… You should be careful when you go to Shibuya.



It says they’re looking for information. I heard Principal Kobayakawa put it up.
“Please consult the student council president if you have any details.”
So we can go to her for anything? Why the student council president though? What does she have to do with Principal Kobayakawa?
I mean, Niijima-san is his favorite. Maybe that’s why he asked her to do it.

Music: So Boring



He was someone who represented Japan. They probably trusted him based on his name alone. Indeed, we’re easily manipulated by the names we see. However, this world is filled with fake names. For instance, this creature, which you know well. It’s called the red king crab, but it has a form that a crab should not have. Hamiru-kun, look at this picture. What are red king crabs most biologically close to?



Hehe… not bad. That’s correct.



The direction the legs unfold is reversed too. Typically they face forward, but a red king’s do not.

Maaku gains Knowledge +1.

Incidentally the tomalley of a crab isn’t its brain, as some people say. It’s actually the crab’s liver and pancreas. As you can see, the world is full of deception.
I saw some kind of paste like that in the fridge at Leblanc… but it’s not often you see real crab meat. Hey, why don’t we get sushi for our next celebration?




gently caress IT, I’M A PHANTOM THIEF, CHAOS REIGNS SUPREME

Please don’t. That may seem like a fun idea for now… But what good would come of telling people our identities?
Maybe they’d at least start treating us with some respect.
Well, I can understand why you feel that way...
That’s just how things are now, but if we keep doing stuff like this, that will definitely change.
We simply need to devote ourselves to the cause. Our praise will come later.
What he said! I’m sure some people out there will understand.
Ugh, I guess we just gotta act like modest heroes for now…

Music: Disquiet



Principal Kobayakawa put that up without my--
We’ve already received some anonymous information. “I heard some students are getting threatened. I’m so scared… Please do something.”



“They have dirt on me, and they’re demanding money. I can’t go to the police… What should I do…?” Isn’t this talking about the crimes that have been rumored to be occuring in Shibuya…?
So there are victims even at our school… What should we do…?
This isn’t the responsibility of the student council. This is frightening for us too… Principal Kobayakawa called you in yesterday, right? Did he tell you anything about this?
Well, no… He’s out today, but I will ask him tomorrow. Please wait on this for the time being...
If you say so...
...My apologies for the confusion. Don’t worry. I’ll do something about all of this...

Music: Beneath the Mask -Rain (Instrumental Version)



But first we need a new target. I hope we can find a good one...



Apparently there’s a group of burglars terrorizing Shibuya. From what I hear, they only target restaurants and break in after they close for the day. Someone online was asking if it was the work of the Phantom Thieves...



Yeah! You guys are way better than those jerks! Anyway, I heard they’ve been running away without leaving even a trace of evidence. That’s all the information I have on them right now… Sorry. For now, I’ll make a post on the Phan-Site and ask for any more details people might know.
Man, being famous really brings its own unique set of problems… But we don’t really have any info. We’ll just have to wait for Mishima to get a more solid lead.



Oh, hey Yusuke. Wanna hang?

By the way… do you have any business here?



*chuckle* You must have a wealth of free time if that is your decision. After what happened with Madarame, I have come to realize the two-faced… complex nature of mankind. People are… difficult to handle. It makes for an interesting theme. That is why I intend on people watching here for quite some time. Please contact me if anything important comes up.

Oh boo, we can’t form a Confidant yet. Well, even if we have that request we can’t fulfill yet, we should head to Mementos. Why? Well… I won’t mince words. We need a lot of money coming up. There’s a few massive (and unfortunately, totally unavoidable for the sake of maximum efficiency) expenses coming up, including getting at least one SP Adhesive 3 from Takemi before the next Palace, which is both extremely long and very short on safe rooms. If we use most of the SP items we’ve stockpiled, we might not need it, but I’d prefer not to do that. How much do we need? I’ll tell you in the next update. Just know… it’s a lot.




Is that site safe to look at? I won’t get a bunch of ads trying to scam me?
You’re worrying too much! Just ignore that stuff.



Makoto is now waiting by the hideout. Maaku thinks nothing of this and never tells anyone that their base of operations is totally compromised, because who gives a poo poo, I guess.

Were you perhaps… going back to the scene of the crime…? U-Ummm, this book is so good. I just can’t stop reading it. I hope the next volume comes out soon…

I don’t know if she’s just lying, but I choose to believe that she’s not and she’s been actually reading and enjoying that book while attempting to stalk us, because it’s pretty adorable.




Next time, Mementos!

Arist fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 18, 2019

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Sorry if this one seems a little padded but I wanted to get as many reactions to the debut of the Phantom Thieves as I could and also didn’t want to stuff an entire Mementos visit into the end of an update.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Fun fact: The "Phantom Theives vs. Burglary Ring" quest is the focus of the Day Breakers OVA we got.

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

Arist posted:

Maaku takes a moment to thank the universe for preventing Ryuji from speaking the phrase “fly honey” in Motherfucking TYOOL (Whatever Year This Is).
Ryuji just cares a lot about prepping for the Master Belch boss fight ok?

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

KDavisJr posted:

I suspect it's related to something else that may be coming up soon.

I think a karaoke room would still be kind of problematic since it's out in the public. The best place is somewhere that they won't have to worry about anyone walking in on them.

Oh duh, that makes sense. Setting up for the next dungeon and stuff, like some parts of this last update did.

Also, karaoke rooms are actually kinda private, as in once you rent one, other people won't usually be coming in and out unless they're club staff and you're ordering food or your time is up (and even that is usually done by calling you on a room phone too) and they want to know if you want an extension on your rental time. Sure, you have to head to the karaoke club which is in a public location and will likely been seen doing so, but all that proves is that you and your friends like to sing karaoke a lot. Just need to queue up a bunch of songs for some background noise, the rooms don't usually have cameras, and they tend to be soundproofed. Better than outright hanging out in public like they are doing now and letting any passers by hear what they're saying, especially when Ryuji is super loud about the Phantom Thieves like he tends to be.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Aug 21, 2017

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Makoto, you could at least try to be casual.

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


I never noticed Makoto following me in my playthrough so maybe she did a better job there. :v:

I think I finally understand her overwhelming popularity. I mean she's a great character but she following you everywhere in such conspicuous way is adorable.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

gmq posted:

I never noticed Makoto following me in my playthrough so maybe she did a better job there. :v:

I think I finally understand her overwhelming popularity. I mean she's a great character but she following you everywhere in such conspicuous way is adorable.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. :allears:

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

Arist posted:





That’s a secret.


Personally I've always been a fan of the "I wish I was in his shoes" answer. Mishima is a dweeb but you can joke around with him and he'll play along.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Makoto's ineffectiveness is just a ploy to get Maaku to not talk about her to his friends
I mean its clearly working

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 45: 6/7: Regrettably, A Mementos Update

This is going to be a Mementos day, because we needed to do that eventually, I guess.

Music: Beneath the Mask -Rain (Instrumental Version)




This intel is on a sadistic student. It sounds like she’s been treating a particular male student as a slave against his will. For example, she’ll give him degrading orders, or berate him in public…
So she’s acting like a dominatrix to a guy who doesn’t want that… That’s horrible. I think we’ll need to whip her heart instead, OK?
Very well. I will go along with this.
No objections, right? Mm… we’re good to go if you’re OK with it. That’s a unanimous decision! OK, all that’s left now is to take down the target in Mementos!

\

Anon: C’mon, more sacrifices!
Anon: It’s just a coincidence…
Anon: thieves are the bad ones
Anon: plz get all the bad guys
Anon: What’s he gonna be hit w/?
Anon: Petty criminals? Pointless
Anon: Vigilante justice is wrong.
Anon: Too elaborate for a prank
Anon: Target more losers!
Anon: SERIOUSLY??? LOL
Anon: This site’s still up? Lol
Anon: What’re they after?
Anon: Art theft? ROFLMAOOOO
Anon: Yeah, keep it going!


Mostly fine, but...

Anon: madarame epic fail, rofl
Anon: you guys believe this? Kek


I want to die.

At the moment, our target count in Mementos is 2. Well, let’s go.
>Let’s go.



Music: Mementos



Really? It seems the same to--






What’s this…?
It looks like the places we can go has expanded again. It’s because we made Madarame’s Palace disappear, right?
Most likely. ...I think.
You seem rather uncertain. How far does this… Mementos run anyway?
Uhhh… It’s huge! ...Extremely.
You’re always so vague when it comes to the important stuff. It’s like he’s kinda flaky as our chief of operations. Don’t you want him to try a bit harder too?




There, there...
I don’t fully understand, but Mementos and the Palaces are related to each other, correct? Then all we must do is continue changing the hearts of evildoers to ascertain its full expanse. I don’t believe there’s a need to quarrel over it.



I mean, you did say it changes every time we come in.

Remember, the layout changes every time we change floors. Also, apparently the rain will make the Shadows more dangerous, but the game never explains in what capacity. Based on what I’ve looked up, it increases the chance of rare enemies and Treasure Demons appearing, as well as the spawn rate of chests.



Yeah. And just as I expected, the path ahead is still open. All right, time to check it out!



While Qimranut is a distortion of the Hebrew word Chomranut, meaning materialism, Aiyatsbus comes from the phrase Ee-yatsivut, meaning instability.



Oh… Cautiousness is good, but let’s not linger in one area for too long, OK? In Mementos, there’s a certain Shadow that’s far stronger than the rest… We’d have no chance against it.
Wha--!? Are you for real!? You shoulda told us that from the start!




If you move through Mementos at any appreciable speed whatsoever you’ll never run into The Reaper. It’s not even like Persona 3 where there were special floors where he’d spawn faster, it just takes a number of minutes for him to spawn, to the point where you can easily avoid him. I went through the entire game without once encountering The Reaper.



Anyway, this is the start of our money grind. We have about 42,000 yen at the moment. We need about 200,000 by even a rather conservative estimate. No, really. All that’s barely going to last us until the next Palace.

This is what it looks like when Yoshida’s Rank 3 procs, by the way.



Because I’m a drat fool, I decide to waste all my SP grinding in Aiyatsbus instead of the block we just unlocked. See that money amount? That’s decent for this block, but depending on the enemy in the next block I could be getting 3-6 times more per pull. Using Yoshida’s Rank 2, I can get up to about 3,000 yen up to four or five times in a row on some enemies. Even better, they don’t die in two hits in the next block, so I can do that multiple times.



And then there’s the RNG, which hates you. The amount of money you get is supposedly based on the enemy and your Persona’s Luck stat, but even when picking Personas specifically for that, sometimes you just get crap like this. Also, this is with a proc on Yoshida’s Rank 3 ability. I finally understand why people suggested leaving him at Rank 2, because his Rank 3 is terrible. Remember how I said when Rank 3 procced it gave you more money but ended the battle? Forget the “more money” part, because sometimes it just gives you way less! I would legitimately have been better off just killing the enemies because you get far more from killing them than this.

All this is to say, I hosed up big time and wasted a bunch of time and SP on scrub enemies that give you garbage.




Meanwhile, this is Yoshida’s Rank 2. It’s much handier.



Eventually, though, you can ask too much and the enemies will get mad and attack you.



Mementos is different. While other Palaces exist because of just one person, this one’s from the public. From that perspective, it’d take more than a few intruders to make a mark on the security level. You’d have to do something so bad that the entire public sees you as an enemy. So… be careful, OK, Skull?
Hey, shut up!




While exploring Mementos, members of the party will occasionally spout out little lines, and other party members will respond to them. It’s cute.



Huh…? Those are… They’re people… right?
Well, I’d say they’re most likely Shadows...
What’re Shadows doin’ here? It’s not like they’re gonna be catchin’ a train or--



I-It stopped…?



They got in...
Hey… Where’s that go?
If I had to guess… I’d say into the deepest part of Mementos.
What? This place seriously don’t make any sense…
……



Isn’t it a waiting room? I didn’t expect there’d be one here too...
It looks like we’ll be able to use this to take a break. Make sure to utilize it well, Joker.



Mm… It seems like this is some kind of safe zone separate from the other areas.



Even Mementos has safe rooms, of course, and you can do anything in them you could normally do.

Moving on...



Well, yeah… Even I can see that. I mean, just look at the place.



Woah, Takama-- Uh, Panther. You’re really into this!



What could this mean…?

Probably that we’re nearing the end of the block.



Remember that request Mishima just gave us about the sadist? That’s a boss that guards the end of the Mementos block. Once we defeat it, we can progress onwards. Pretty much all the blocks have bosses like this at the end once you progress far enough in the game to reveal them. We could take them on now, or we could circle back to the second floor of Aiyatsbus and take on the bully that we got the request for a month ago and we never did anything about. Whoops!



Oh my god!

Um, okay.



We also open a locked chest to find this garbage, a Balm of Life. Not only do we get three of these with that free DLC item pack, we can just buy items that serve the exact same function.



Eventually, we enter the distortion.

This guy’s bullyin’ is really bad. From what I hear, it’s mostly blackmail, takin’ money from people, that kinda thing.
If we don’t make him have a change of heart, his bullying might get even worse.
Let’s go.

Music: Desire



That’s no reason! How’s it their fault when you don’t give ‘em any choice, huh?
You’re the lowest of the low. Bullying people weaker than you, knowing they can’t fight back!
The hell!? You’re all ganging up on me, too! Are you Phantom Thieves some kind of gang!? Protectors of justice, my rear end! Don’t act high and mighty with me when you don’t know anything!



You’re the one who doesn’t know anything! Let’s get ‘em!

Music: Keeper of Lust

Shadow Takanashi



This miniboss is pretty simple.



It can inflict fear, which is no big deal.




It also likes to use Lucky Punch to score cheap crits and follow them up with Stomach Blow, which inflicts Hunger.



We could defeat it easily, or we could attempt to gain even more money another way. See, about half of the Mementos minibosses are vulnerable to Confuse. And, if you remember way back to the list of status effects, one of the effects of Confuse is that it causes the affected character to throw away money. See where I’m going with this?

What we do is use Pulinpa (high chance of Confuse), hope it hits, and if it does, we get a free 8,000 yen… if it doesn’t choose to throw away an item or do nothing instead. Unfortunately, Confuse wears off 2-3 turns later, and even spamming Pulinpa every turn we get, without a skill like Confuse Boost, we’re lucky to hit at all. We can’t do this forever, either, because we don’t have any SP Adhesive 3s to let us regenerate SP. We’re best off taking what we do get and moving forward instead of trying fruitlessly to get as much as we can from this one enemy. And remember, the amount you get is based on your Persona’s Luck stat and the amount of money the enemy gives upon defeat. The reason this works so well in the first place is that as minibosses, they give substantial amounts of money when killed. In case you’re wondering, yes, this does mean that the money rewards from this strategy will grow exponentially as the game goes on! This is probably the best, easiest way to get money in the game, though we’re attempting this at pretty much the worst possible time (it gets substantially easier when our party learns specific skills), in case my paltry return of only about 16,000 yen seems rather low.

Music: Sunset Bridge



What are you talkin’ about?
If I don’t go after him, I’m the one who’s gonna get bullied! I can’t take it, I just can’t!
Oh, I get it now. There’s an even bigger bully—ordering this guy around—who’s behind all this.
Hey! Didn’t you just say it’s people’s own fault for not standin’ up for themselves?
That’s… er… Please, help me!



Thank you! Oh, thank you, you wonderful phantom thieves!
This guy… Fickle fellow, isn’t he?
I’m counting on you… You guys promised.
Fine, but you better apologize to those people you bullied!



We get a single Protein. Lame.



Now that we’ve taken down that Shadow, we can progress further through Mishima’s Confidant. Oh joy.

From here, we need to return to the gate and take down the new Shadow.

Music: Mementos



She really seems like a sadist...
She’s calling someone her slave and ordering him around, right?
In a way, she’s denying his existence. I certainly wouldn’t want to be a victim of that.
Let’s go talk to her.

Music: Desire



It’s ‘cause you made some guy your slave! That’s all kinds of wrong right there.
That’s what he wants! He worships me more than any god, you know.
Uh… I don’t know where to begin to explain how you’re wrong...
I beat him and I hurt him, and he sees it as a sign of our love and friendship! He’s so happy!
You are so delusional.
I’m pretty, and my grades are good! It’s my right to order people around! I’ll start by giving orders to you pigs! Lick my shoes, peasants!



Music: Keeper of Lust

Shadow Shimizu




Shimizu starts by using Oni-Kagura, which fucks us up pretty good.



After a round of attacking, she’ll boost her Attack and then Charge up, which is our cue to take her down quick.

Music: Sunset Bridge




I could never stand that...
Why did you start treating him like that?
He just kept going along with it, so I misunderstood and thought I could do anything I wanted… Actually, I… wanted to be more than friends with him.
More than friends? You mean like as a boyfriend!?
Yes. I had a crush on him, but then I got possessive. Those feelings went out of control...
Be careful that you don’t make things worse for yourself than they already are...



We get a Whip Sword, a new weapon for Ann.



And there’s that request down.

Music: Mementos



The door opens now.

Whoa, we did it!
This is because more people believe in us now, right?
That has to be it. Now then, let’s get in there!



And so we enter Chemdah, meaning desire.

Looks like it’ll be a new area from here on. I’m starting to understand how this place works...
Yes… It is quite a marvel to find the subway system down here.
Uh, Earth to Yusuke! It’s always been like that!



This isn’t an important shot, but Zorro spawned facing backwards for some reason and it’s weird.



The last floor had seven areas, but the one before that only had two, right?
I suppose it varies, depending upon the location...
Guess that means it ain’t easy to tell how much of a floor we got left to cover, huh?
That’s right. We won’t know how many areas are on a floor until we make it to the end. But judging by the vibe I’m getting from the Shadows… this floor isn’t any smaller than the last.




The first image here is a normal gain, while the second is a Yoshida Rank 3 proc. As you can see, both are much more lucrative than their counterparts from the last block.



But there’s also new dangers. If we push too hard...



...additional enemies may spawn.



After nearly getting steamrolled by this Nue, we decide we’ve had enough fun for the day.



We made it to the next safe room, which means it’s about time to head home, because I’d rather save my SP items for the real Palace.



We end the day with 158,000 yen, with about 38,000 of that coming from Aiyatsbus (not counting the 12,000 we got from Shadow Shimizu) and 56,000 coming from Chemdah, which goes to prove how much better an idea it would have been to grind there instead, considering how much less time and SP we spent down there. We’re still well under what we need, but we have enough assorted junk to sell to Untouchable to get us to about 193,000 or so, which is acceptable if not perfect. We’ll have to make do.

Music: Beneath the Mask




Complaints about the authenticity of artwork are flooding in from buyers after the Madarame debacle. It seems this scandal will continue to cause confusion in the art world for some time.
The people who bought art from Madarame should have accepted the truth about him by now…

Next time, we’ll hopefully do something actually interesting, because gently caress money grinding.

Arist fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Apr 29, 2018

Kemix
Dec 1, 2013

Because change
Ah yes, the Mementos Money Grind trick. I learned about it way too late in my playthrough, but I made good use of it regardless. Too bad though I never could make much that had a high enough Luck to be usable for this trick.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
I just used a certain daily feature of the Velvet Room on my dedicated Confuseboost/pulinpa Persona

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

DeafNote posted:

I just used a certain daily feature of the Velvet Room on my dedicated Confuseboost/pulinpa Persona

I don't know why I didn't try something so obvious. I always made new ones, when an easier option existed.

And yes, the confuse boss trick. I just tried over and over.

Also, physical attacks are a pain, so this is why a persona that's immune to physicals is so handy. It also means those enemies that rely purely on physical attacks can't touch your MC while he can do whatever.

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

The first Persona who can learn both skills & possesses notably high Luck for its level is.... I want to say... Sandman? I think? Don't recall which one I ended up fusing, tbh. One Weird Trick for Grinding Money is an odd design decision. I have to assume it was intentional because squeezing that kind of money out of regular battles prior to the 4th or 5th palace is unbelievably tedious. Yet it never comes up in any conversation or tutorial, and the game is decidedly not shy about tutorializing.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

It's definitely intentional. There's one fight lateish in the game with a hardcoded amount that gets spit out from the confuse trick for very specific reasons that I'm sure Arist will cover when we get there. Plus, the game was released in Japan 6 months before the rest of the world, you'd think that if Atlus really didn't want the trick in the game, they'd patch it out and the localized version would never have it.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Rangpur posted:

The first Persona who can learn both skills & possesses notably high Luck for its level is.... I want to say... Sandman? I think?

I think it's Nekomata, but Mr. Sandman will absolutely bring you a dream when you can fuse him.

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


DeafNote posted:

I just used a certain daily feature of the Velvet Room on my dedicated Confuseboost/pulinpa Persona

It's not limited if you save/reload. You can easily get 100k+ per confusion if you have a lot of luck in your persona.

Guess who trivialized the game by grinding 3 million. :negative:

EDIT: I forgot to mention that if you set the game on easy during those boss battles you get even more money.

lunar detritus fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Aug 24, 2017

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Weeble
Feb 26, 2016
I forgot how to fuse it, but Onmoraki is the earliest I know of to get Pulinpa and Confuse Boost.

It's a level 12 persona, and it comes with Pulinpa; it learns the boost at level 15.

You can then fuse it with something to make Sandman once you hit level.... 24 I think?

Ended the game with a level 80 Sandman saved to my compendium. One with 80-ish luck.


Soooo much money.

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