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Omobono posted:Except that my point was that with Kaneshiro turned witness she now has an even better opportunity for promotion than what she had before our intervention. If she doesn't recognize it she's an idiot and if her boss stole her investigation (and slam dunk promotion opportunity) to give it to his father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate that's not our fault.
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Part 67: 7/11: Strange Things Are Afoot At The Circle K Music: Tokyo Daylight  It is sweltering… The air conditioning seems to have ceased functions entirely... Anon: A new hero is born!   We’ll start with this one first… This intel is on an online stalker burning with jealousy because the man she loves has been taken away. It seems she’s a Shujin student… Her delusions are really getting out of hand. She’s even writing how she’s going to kill them. If we don’t stop her, she might actually do it! We need to figure something out before that happens. Fine by me. That’s not all. Now on to the next target. Apparently the Phantom Thieves inspired a larceny group that steals from shops in Shibuya. On top of that, it seems their leader has been physically abusing his younger brother. We can’t let these people go around tarnishing the Phantom Thieves name. I must agree, even more so if we are being asked for help. Let us put a stop to this madness. I’m for doing this too! We need to trigger a change of heart in them. That’s not all. Now on to the next target. This intel is on a cowardly kid who carries out atrocities using bullies under his control. He’s the one behind that guy Takanashi whose heart we changed before as well. Anyway, it seems like he’s been blackmailing people with videos they don’t want made public. Sure thing. Let’s break that lovely bastard. It seems tough, but I think we can accomplish this if you say we can! That’s not all. Now on to the next target. This intel is on a heinous convenience store manager. Not only does he steal money from the register, but he gets away by blaming his part-timers for it. He probably just does whatever he wants because he owns the store. Let’s take him down. Even though he owns the place, it’s drat clear what’s right and what’s wrong. Mm-hm, that’s unforgivable! We’re going to do this, no matter what! That’s not all. Now on to the next target. This intel is on a man who’s been abusing his girlfriend. This man named Uchimura has assaulted her countless times. That fortune teller even predicted she’d be badly hurt if left alone. Those fortunes often come true… Fortunes aside… we can’t let this guy use violence against her! I don’t want her getting hurt. We should change his heart. I agree. It’s only natural for us to change the heart of a person like that. OK, it looks like we’re all ready to do this! We already told Mishima, so the forum post is up and running. No objections, right? Mm… we’re good to go if you’re OK with it. That’s a unanimous decision! OK, all that’s left now is to take down the target in Mementos!Hey, if Mishima has to send a forum post, isn’t that technically a threat? Also, if it only works if they see the post, what if they don’t check the site that day? Or, what if we don’t complete all our requests on the same day? It only works once, after all. Or, maybe this is all a bullshit gameplay contrivance that doesn’t map one-to-one with the story all that well and I’m just overthinking it for comedic effect, and actually giving a poo poo about it is pointless.   Anon: SWEETDICULOUS! >: D Anon: Phantom Thieves YAAAS! Yo, how many targets we got? 5 of ‘em, yeah? Let’s do this.Music: Mementos   Oh yeah, this happened before too. If I’m remembering right, the Metaverse Nav-- Yup, we got something. Music: Suspicion  How much bigger is this place gonna get? Yo, Mona, can’t you turn into some kinda high-powered radar or something? We’d know how deep it goes if you could. That’s impossible…! Hm, it would be dangerous to wander blindly. We simply do not have enough information. Just driving around won’t likely do us any good either. Yeah, but… The path keeps going forward! We’ll reach the depths eventually! ...I think. That again…?Music: Mementos      In our first fight, we get a popup explaining a new mechanic.  We can use it to use Joker’s turn to instead switch two party members.  We find the first distortion in the fifth area of Aiyatsbus.  Look at ‘im… Thinks he’s some kinda hotshot. He’s the guy who’s really behind all that bullying, right? Yeah. If we wanna stop the bullying, we gotta take him down. Let’s go.Music: Desire   Idiot, it’s a dog eat dog world. Didn’t you hear? Might makes right. No jerk’s got the right to go around, blackmailin’ people! The weak who can’t survive in this world become prey for the strong. Nothing’s wrong with that! You gotta be kidding! You’re not strong, you’re just a coward who won’t get his hands dirty! Haha! And you’re a stupid dog that’s all bark and no bite! Changed my mind. Dogs are stronger than cats or mice. You’re just trash! Now, die! Music: Keeper of Lust   He goes down in a single turn. The pattern with most of the bosses we’ll be taking down today is that they’re pretty easy, and so I won’t be posting videos for them. Music: Sunset Bridge   No… Don’t… Don’t eat me... Why don’t you just admit you lost? You’re acting kind of pathetic right now. Yes… I know I am. All right. Now it’s time for you to get eaten. The strong eat the weak or somethin’, right? When I’m done with you, there’s gonna be nothin’ left but bone. You ready? Please, forgive me! I’m sorry! ...Kiddin’. You don’t gotta say sorry to us. Go apologize to who you really need to apologize to! Let’s get the Treasure! Case closed! The Evil Snow Crystal is a special item that lets us fuse Black Frost, the form Shadow Sakoda took.  Next, in the sixth area of Aiyatsbus:  He looks so… bad. He’s part of a burglary ring targeting restaurants, and he’s used violence against his brother. We have to do something about this. Let’s talk to him.Music: Desire   I convinced my friends to do some “part-time work” for me. But I’m not in the wrong! Trying to make excuses now? You should be ashamed of yourself. No! I just meant it as a way to have a little fun, but those idiots got cocky! And now I’m the one who’s in trouble! Dammit! Why do bad things always happen to me!? Bad things? What are you talking about? Yeah, ever since I was a kid! School, society… everyone treated me like I was dirt! My little brother was the smart one, Mom and Dad’s favorite. They couldn’t care less about me…I know that feeling How can you expect me to live a normal life? I’m rebelling against this lovely society! You think violence and crime is rebellion? Don’t be stupid.Ryuji sounding suspiciously like an after-school special here. “You know what’s cool, kids? Obeying the law. Stay in school!” What did you say? You guys are thieves, too! Don’t think you’re better than me, idiots! Go away! Music: Keeper of Lust    Despite the summons, this isn’t a particularly difficult fight. The Oni complicates things, but...   Taking Makigami down will end the fight regardless of how many of the enemies are left. Music: Sunset Bridge  This is impossible… I get it now. You must have heard from my brother... You just realized that now? Wait, you already know how your brother feels, then! …… He did this… for me… That’s the key to the chest in my room. Give it to my brother… You’re supposed to be the good kind of thieves, right…? What!? Why would we do something like that for y-- ...Psh. Anything you want to tell him? Well… Hehe, “Burn what’s inside or throw it away,” I guess. *sob*  What’re we gonna do about that Treasure? Yeah. It’s no use to us, anyway. What will we do? I can give it to him since he goes to my school. No. I’ll just sneak it into his house. I think that’s the best way… I hope everything resolves itself. In any case, we pretty much succeeded with our mission! Next, in the third area of Chemdah:  Doesn’t he look like he’s worried about something? But he’s abusing his girlfriend, right? Oh, man, didn’t her fortune say that she’s gonna get seriously hurt? We can’t let that come true! Let’s hurry!The party suddenly believes in fortune-telling, I guess. Which, whatever, far from the weirdest thing they’ve experienced. Music: Desire   Dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit! Where is she? Get over here, so I can beat you!This is not a subtle game.  Whaaaaaat!? Don’t you dare lecture me! She’s mine! I can do whatever I want with her! Beating her is a right that only I have! I’ll have you know that she loves it too! If you wanna get in my way, then you’re gonna diiiiiie! Music: Keeper of Lust Shadow Uchimura   This guy presents a little trouble because he keeps getting extra turns with Garula off Ryuji, but we still take him down.  Music: Sunset Bridge  I can do better… I’m a superior human being… All the people around me just don’t get it...I honestly like that he’s so far gone that even post-defeat he’s still an unrepentant shitheel who doesn’t understand his own awfulness at the end of this. Turns out stealing your heart doesn’t magically make you a better person after all! At least he’ll stop loving beating his girlfriend, though.  The Sleep Stick is a much, much better weapon for Ryuji (44 Attack to 144) that has a medium chance of inflicting Sleep. Phew… The right to beat his girlfriend? He really was the worst of the worst to think that. We changed his heart, so let’s go tell the fortune teller when we get the chance.  While working our way further down, we see some new enemies. One of them is this Sudama, weak to Nuclear and Ice. We can also spy on its skills and item drops thanks to Makoto.  We also run into this normal enemy version of a previous miniboss, Shiki-Ouji. This version is still immune to Physical, Gun, and Curse, but is additionally weak to Nuclear. It uses Gun, Tarukaja, and tries to enrage with Taunt.  Later on, we spy a weak wall.  We can smash right through it, revealing an enemy and a chest. These pop up every so often and are a reward for sharp-eyed players. On the eighth and final floor of Chemdah:  She’s smirking. That’s kinda creepy… Her blog is full of all her crazy thoughts. She must be lost in some sort of sick romance fantasy. Shouldn’t we do something about it before she can hurt anybody? Of course. Let’s do it.Music: Desire   I know why you’d go after Kamoshida, but why me!? Hey. I don’t blame you for falling in love, but there’s a point where it goes too far. You! You’re the bitch trying to steal Ikesugi-kun away from me! Who are you calling a bitch!? And I’m not interested in Ikesugi! Hmph! You’re just a sore loser, hanging out with some lame guys and a funny-looking animal! What’d you just say!? Oh god what the gently caress “Funny-looking animal”? Is she talking about me!? This makes me mad! Get her!You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry! Music: Keeper of Lust   Mogami’s not a hard fight at all. She’ll start by using Stagnant Air to increase everyone’s susceptibility to ailments. While it also applies to herself, she’s sadly immune to Confuse, so no farming money off her (though we probably don’t really need to bother farming right now). She can inflict Brainwash with Brain Shake, a Physical strike, but if she has more than that, I killed her before she got to it, because she spent her other turns lowering the party’s defense and boosting her own. I would post a video… but some of the footage corrupted and led to audio desync when I try to edit it, and I’m not rerecording the entire Mementos trip for one easy boss, sorry. Music: Sunset Bridge  What is real love and romance!? Someday!? When will that be!? What should I do with all of these feelings inside me…? Just tell him face to face, and don’t write weird stuff in your blog. It’ll take courage though. I’m scared, but… I’ll do it! Please, wait for me, Ikesugi-kun! Hey! Just don’t do anything weird!  Sticky Hairball lets us fuse Bugs, that… thing Mogami turned into.  Music: Mementos  Don’t you just feel like the whole world approves of you whenever these things open? For a second, but then I think how there are more of these walls waiting ahead… All right, let’s get in there! Now, you may notice that the last exclamation point is in the previous area. In which case, congratulations, you’re smarter than me! It takes me a good few floors to realize I left it behind because it was on a floor I skipped over. In the meantime, we find some good stuff down here before we head back up. Kaitul comes from a word meaning “ugliness,” though the source of that translation apparently thinks that’s kind of a guess because it’s really far off from the source word, Keeoor.  I never realized how creepy the subway system could be. Inside the train, you don’t even notice. I agree. Perhaps it is like the darkness in all men’s hearts. Always there, never perceived… Haha, you talkin’ about art stuff again? It’s a new area from this point on. Let’s be careful heading in! This monstrosity is Choronzon, a palette swap of Legion from other SMT games. It’s weak to Bless.    We use one of our Lockpicks here and find a Gigas Vest, a rather notable upgrade to Maaku’s current armor. At some point we also pick up an Id Collar. It’s some new armor for Morgana, who sorely needed it, but that’s just from a normal chest, and just saves me from having to go buy him some armor later.  Ryuji levels up, and we replace his Zio with Zionga. I’ve seen suggestions to leave him with Zio because his Magic stat and SP pool are poopy and he’ll mainly be using it to hit weaknesses instead of deal damage, but he’s honestly not using those skills enough for it to make a dramatic difference in his longevity, especially once we slap an SP Adhesive 3 on him.  We’re only in the third area. I suppose this leisure ride will continue on for a while longer. How is this supposed to be leisurely…? Cut him some slack. Yusuke just wanted to say somethin’ cool.drat straight.  We replace Yusuke’s Bufu with Bufula, another straight upgrade.  We also replace Morgana’s Dia with Recarm, a skill that lets him revive an ally. Considering that we can already just buy Life Ointments from Takemi, which are items that fully restore a KO’d ally’s HP, revive skills are pretty useless in this game. Still, it’s better than holding onto loving Dia. Finally, we head back up to the first floor of Chemdah:  What an unpleasant smile. It’s his customer service smile, right? Yet behind the scenes, he’s extorting his subordinates. This guy might start doin’ it to his customers, too. Who knows? That would be a disaster! Let’s go!Music: Desire  Why’d you blackmail your own employees? That’s not normal! My shop is a directly managed store of a large chain. Since I’m highly competent, I’m in charge. I don’t need strangers complaining about how I use the shop’s money. Part-time workers are the property of the shop. Thus, they are mine to use as I will. Property!? Who do you think you are!? I get it now. You pretend to be heroes, but you’re all just criminals. I’m gonna kill you! Let’s go!Music: Keeper of Lust   Spoiler: this doesn’t go the way he thinks it will. In fact, due to Ryuji afflicting him with Shock, he doesn’t even get to act.  Ann replaces Dia with Diarama, finally. Music: Sunset Bridge   No… I remember now… Employees aren’t property… They’re human beings. And yet, I took advantage of them. I-I’ve done bad things... Talk about a horrible workplace. I don’t know how I can ever make up for this... You’ve done quite a bit more, haven’t you? It’d be best if you just confess everything. This is a… book? I guess? Huh? Aren’t those Chinese desserts or somethin’? I see. So he was lining his own pockets. And we’re finally done with Mementos for today, thank god. These updates are about as much fun to write as they are to read.   Music: Beneath the Mask   \ Nothing gets by me. I own this place, remember? I can tell what’s going on here just by looking at the tables.Let’s see what else Sojiro has to say.  Sojiro, buddy, can you lay off for like five minutes?  If you don’t like watching me, you don’t have to! Just phone it in even more than you already are. I promise to behave.  ...I love this dude.   That’s what I hear. The driver was acting funny or something. The vice president in our company might’ve been caught up in it. I’m sure it’s chaos in the office. When are these weird accidents going to end? I don’t feel safe getting into my car anymore. Thanks for the coffee. I’ll just leave what I owe you here, Boss.  At 8 o’clock this morning, a car went out of control in a highway accident that left four dead. The police intend to press charges for the deaths of the victims against the driver at fault. The man in question had no history of disease and was a driver for restaurant giant “Goodness Food.” Traffic accidents are scary… You’d better drive safe.Maaku canonically does not have a driver’s license, cat. We went over this like forty updates ago. Arist fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Nov 1, 2017 19:12
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Really not a fan of Mementos, I see.
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Nov 1, 2017 19:22
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Hey here's the same scene five times in a row with slightly different dialogue so it's not even interesting to transcribe, but you also have to search over an hour of footage when you're taking screenshots so you don't miss anything 
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Nov 1, 2017 19:24
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I like Mementos fine as a gameplay mechanic. I don't think anyone enjoys exploring it in practice. The music is such a buzzkill I wonder if Morgana wasn't meant to get a radio installed at some point.
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 Since Mementos is the collective palace of Shibuya's citizens, the forum post is good enough of a calling card for small treasure rooms that have not yet taken form as a full separated palace. Even if the target hasn't seen it personally, the concept has been introduced to the minds of everyone else on the site, causing a path to appear within the shared subway tunnels.
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Personally I rather enjoy Mementos, but that's largely because I find the combat in the game enjoyable, and I'm certain that my enjoyment would not last forever. Exploring it can be quite fun if you want to muck about for half an hour in the deepest parts you currently have access too. Of course I also really like the Chalice Dungeons in Bloodborne which are similarly done procedural generated dungeons.
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Nov 1, 2017 21:11
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Mementos would be more tolerable if the music was not poo poo.
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Nov 1, 2017 22:37
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Mementos would be more fun if it wasn't so easy to accidentally override the mid-dungeon party conversations gently caress this Jungian nightmare poo poo lemme see my anime teen squad hangout please
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Mementos is just boring. The music sucks, the atmosphere is dark and what, secret walls? I can't see properly in there anyway. Plus it's random, and Morgana van can't ambush nicely. He's huge.
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Of note: The fake Phantom Thieves request was the focus of the Day Breakers OVA we got a while back. And the names of the siblings are a reference to another SMT game: Devil Survivor's manga adaptation named the hero Kazuya, and a plot-critical character is the PC's cousin, Naoya (the name of Makigami's brother, revealed in Day Breakers). Although there, the douchey one is Naoya, not Kazuya.
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Blademaster_Aio posted:Mementos is just boring. The music sucks, the atmosphere is dark and what, secret walls? I can't see properly in there anyway. Plus it's random, and Morgana van can't ambush nicely. He's huge.
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Along with the bad music and the drudgery of navigating floor after floor of Mementos, the requests and encounters associated with them are not very engaging with few exceptions. - Mishima tells you about some bad person (or you find out about them some other way, but you rarely meet them before meeting their shadow). - That bad person's shadow is cartoonishly evil in a very specific way. - Mini-boss fight. - Angsty repentance (usually). Not a lot of variety and the dialogue ends up being interchangeable (characters in your party saying variations on "Don't be bad!" that may as well have been as randomized as the dungeon itself) I like most things Persona 5 did, but Mementos definitely fell flat for me.
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nobody likes Mementos for it being the only place where we get voiced dungeon chatter? (which I am actually sad about that its getting skipped, but that is understandable)
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DeafNote posted:nobody likes Mementos for it being the only place where we get voiced dungeon chatter? That's the only good part about mementos, but it constantly gets interrupted which just makes me like mementos less.
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Persona 5 is one of those games where if the writers weren't so insistent on creating sketchy situations for the laughs(namely Yusuke's blackmailing) I probably would've liked it more. It's probably one of the reasons why I came out liking the main girls a lot more than the guys, since they're usually not victim to the "make them act OOC/worse than they usually are in order to set up this totally funny scenario" writing. Honestly, I wish Yusuke got the character development he needed in this game, which was to learn how to be more considerate. Like if he'd apologized to Ann, not only would it have been a step towards him becoming a better person, but it would also mean acknowledging the terrible situation that Ann was forced in. But instead, the writers played it for the laughs and nobody got what they needed.
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I think Morgana's concern for our safe driving is mostly because Morgana's what we're driving.
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Of the demon bosses you didn't name, I think i recognized all but one: Black Frost Mithras Fu-Ki or Su-ki (of the Oni trio) I don't know about "Bugs" and Setanta. If you want, I can point them out if you don't know them. I don't think they're spoilers.
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Bugs is a reference to Bugbear, a variant of the Boogeyman.
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It also first appeared as a boss in Soul Hackers.
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Part 68: 7/12-7/16: It’s A Lockdown Baby Anon: This is fun, so yeah! Anon: thx admin!!! Anon: i wanna know more bout em Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)   Did the Phantom Thieves really do that? Maybe people are just having fun, giving them credit for a coincidence… I mean, no one can actually steal someone’s heart—that’s just some urban legend noise. Isn’t that what people said about that hacker group, too? It’s just a nice way of saying they’re blackmailing bad people into confessing their crimes! Who’re you to doubt the Phantom Thieves, anyhow? ...What?  Yeah, they’ve really taken off since the whole Kamoshida thing. The legend of the Phantom Thieves started at OUR school! We’re practically one of them! And who can’t relate to what they’re doing? Punishing corrupt adults up to no good—the police should take notes.Music: So Boring   Behind Kaneshiro’s arrest are the “Phantom Thieves,” the mysterious group that changes people’s hearts. If I recall, there were similar rumors back during that business with Kamoshida-kun. Help the weak and crush the strong… Truly a modern legend of the gentleman thief. In the long history of humans, the gentleman thief has been seen briefly during times of turmoil. Now then, please look at this picture. Hamiru-kun. What was the name of the gentleman thief whose family was boiled alive during the Sengoku period? Ha, your own name is up there as an option. Correct. As I’m sure you know, this is the origin of the term “Goemon bath,” or a bath heated from the bottom. Only stealing from the rich and powerful, and sharing with the poor… Goemon’s exploits have been documented in many forms of media, like kabuki and novels.Maaku gains Knowledge +1. However, it’s actually unclear whether or not Goemon was indeed a gentleman thief. Rebellion against Hideyoshi, whose campaign had failed; propaganda by the government to sully his name… The gentleman thief Goemon may be no more than an illusion made by varying motivations. In actuality, most heroes and gentleman thieves throughout history are something like that. Let’s make sure people don’t think we’re just an illusion. But before that, you need to study for the exams that are starting tomorrow.Music: Tokyo Daylight  I’d be pretty sad if the leader of the Phantom Thieves got bad grades.  >I’ll give it a try. That’s the spirit! I’ve seen it in Shibuya before too! It’s like, totally cool. I hope they keep it up. I’ve been rooting for them this whole time! Aren’t they incredible? I heard they’re really gaining momentum. By the way, this is a drat good drawing. Is Hamiru a Phanboy? I think our popularity’s rising! We’re really starting to get famous!   Are you all right? You’re sweating a lot... I-I-I… *mumble* I’m not sure what’s going on, but just relax. Let’s take our time, and try to talk normally.Looks like our stalker’s change of heart went through. Music: Aria of the Soul  Next, we need to clear a Persona slot to make room to resummon an Eligor again. We choose to fuse this Kin-Ki from Flauros and Nue.  Yes, I can see that, but what’s your name?  If you possess the mask, I will grant you the power of an unyielding heart... Kin-Ki is another of the four oni controlled by Fujiwara No Chikata. It’s named after gold and its body is so strong that no weapons in existence can pierce it.  But we’re not done here yet. A little while back we unlocked a new feature called “Lockdown," and now’s the perfect time to show it off, for reasons I’ll explore shortly.  The cell’s empty for now, but that’ll change. Let’s get some explanations of this new system.   If you toss one of your Personas in a cell, we’ll give it some special training to help it grow. While you’re off loafing around, your Persona’s getting stronger… We treat you too well, Inmate! Oh, but we only keep one Persona in Lockdown at a time. This is solitary confinement, after all. And naturally, you’re not gonna be able to use that Persona in battle or fusion. Don’t forget, Inmate! Once the training is over, the Persona you put in Lockdown’ll learn a new resistance. There’re times it’ll learn something different too though. That’s all up to chance. Either way, the stuff it learns will all be useful to you, Inmate.* Oh, and the higher the Confidant rank for the Persona’s arcana, the shorter they’ll need to train for. Don’t forget Master’s words… Forging Confidants is gonna help you on the road to rehabilitation.*The stuff it learns may not all be useful. I have no idea what “there are times it’ll learn something different” means, unless it means Null Skills instead of Resist skills.  It takes a set number of days ‘til a Persona’s training ends… but don’t forget it’s in there, OK? Personas are part of your heart, after all. If you leave it in for to long, it’ll disappear forever. Well, we’re not evil though. We’ll let you know if that’s gonna happen soon. But it’ll be on you from there on. Don’t come crying to us once you realize how stupid you were.So, they’ll call you once the time is about to expire, but that’s probably not going to be a lot of help on story days you can’t go outside, which is part of the reason I never ended up using this feature on my first run. Another reason? It’s really not that good. The resistances it provides are in the forms of skills, which are useful in that they can be passed on, but annoying in that they take up a skill slot, which are already at a premium on anything we’re fusing at this point in the game. Now, there’s reason to believe (mainly from GameFAQs posts that are unverifiable without careful testing, natch) that leaving a Persona in Lockdown for longer than you have to will give you a better chance of getting a good skill. Well, I don’t know about that, but we’ll try this out anyway.  Clotho has two weaknesses, so an extra resistance would be great. Let’s put her into Lockdown.  Sorry!  Outside of the Velvet Room (and before we resummon that Eligor), we can see this icon on Clotho’s name, indicating that she is in Lockdown. Now, the great thing I never realized about Lockdown is that while you can’t use or fuse the Persona, it’s still technically in your deck. This means you can get bonus Confidant points for a matching Arcana without pulling it out of Lockdown if you so choose. Considering how long it takes to get all 12 Persona slots in this game, it’s really handy that the game does you a solid this once. Music: Tokyo Daylight  And, well… there is something I would like to try painting. Do you think you would be free to help? >Hang out with him I am in your debt. It would be rather difficult to go by myself. Now then, our destination is Inokashira Park. Let us go.Music: My Homie    I will be counting on your cooperation today… by which I of course mean your oar work.  Hahaha, don’t get so excited. You’ll fall off, you know. Perfect… This is it. My previous painting captured only one aspect of the heart: desire. As such, I was unable to arrive at a truly artistic representation… That is why we have come today. I shall paint a second aspect… the burning passion between man and woman! Fittingly, our theme today will be… the wonders of love! You will have an important role to play here today as well. While I draw, ensure the boat remains as steady as possible amid these devilish ripples. Ah, this angle… Incredible! That bashful side profile, those moist eyes… Their overflowing passion is wholly evident! They are akin to Adam and Eve… yet in time all lovers must come to know the pain of separation… Separation is the natural end to any such relationship… but even beyond that, love endures. Precisely… This is the truth of the human heart! *chuckle* It will make the most wonderful painting…! It shall be adored by all who gaze upon it! It may even be given top prize in the next exhibition…! Wait, now is not the time to be thinking of such trivial matters…!  Return to your prior angle! I must capture your profile! Wh-What the hell’re you doing!? Rejoice, for I shall preserve your beautiful love so that all coming generations may bask in its glory. Once I complete this painting, you will become new legends in the art world… A modern Adam and Eve! L-Legends? Art…? This dude’s off his rocker… Come on, let’s report him. Hold on a sec… Are you drawing us!? What!? You’re using us as models!? A man and woman intimately swaying in a dinghy of dreams… The blush of their cheeks, the bashful looks… Yes, this is the love I was so emphatically searching for! …Love? Uh, I guess you could call it that… but it’s kinda weird... ABORT MISSION! ABORT MISSION! Ugh… I told you I didn’t wanna come here with you. The only ones who do this crap are stupid couples. But I’ve always dreamed of coming to Tokyo and riding a boat here! Though it was supposed to be with my boyfriend… not my brother! So that overflowing passion was just a figment of my imagination…? It seems my bias has caused me to overlook the truth of the matter...  Hm, romantic love and familial love… The two may be nigh indiscernible depending on one’s point of view. What? No. Gross. Perhaps… the truth of the heart lies in the eye of the beholder. Maaku, I feel as though I’ve learned something today…! I can sense a quiet resolve from Yusuke...  That means those two... Shhh! There are people from all walks of life here in the city. Oooh, tell me more…Gay jokes! Fun!  What are they talking about? Ah well… Come, it is about time we return home. Please row us back to shore, Maaku. Farewell.Music: Beneath the Mask  Guess I should head home... Kaneshiro has admitted that he gave orders to his subordinates to carry out crimes. However, countless people fell victim to his scams. Investigating every single scam will take time. Oh, he really scammed a lot of people. I guess we’ll just leave the rest to the police. Yikes, six new messages. One of these is the bog-standard “Please hang out with me oh god I’m so lonely,” and another is a request from Ryuji to study (which will give us Knowledge +3 and a bunch of points with Ryuji, neither of which we actually need, sorry Ryuji), but the other four are responses to completing the Mementos requests.  Mm-hm! I snuck in and left it there without anyone noticing. Oh, and there was a post saying the culprit’s gonna turn himself in. I’m sure his little bro’ll be shocked to hear he got caught. Well either way, I think it should be better than how things were before. Man, you guys really like keeping busy. Not that that’s a bad thing. Anyway, that takes care of those restaurant burglars! Things may have gotten a bit crazy, but it all turned out OK in the end.It’s a bit unusual that we’re getting more than a few lines from Mishima about a simple Mementos request completion. Even the beginning of this one was more drawn-out than usual. Well, the reason for that is because before Persona 5 released, there was an OVA called The Daybreakers produced that took place about a month before this point in the story. This request was a tie-in to that, you see, which is why it was all so much more involved than normal. Also there’s still no reward, gently caress you.    She even apologzied online and everything. You know who she is, right? Why don’t you go check on her? It seems she really did have a change of heart. Nice work!  I heard both of them ended up turning themselves in to the teachers. Things should be peaceful at school from now on. Well done! It looks like the double change of heart was a massive success! Keep up the good work!  The student ended up quitting his part-time job there too. Apparently company HQ tried to offer him money to keep quiet, and he just couldn’t accept that. Still, he was really moved by what the Phantom Thieves did. I quote, “I can’t believe they wanted to help solve a nothing high schooler’s problems. Even I’m happy hearing that! We really did a great job this time. Hearing how touched the student was is an added bonus too. I guess there really are all sorts of desires hidden away in the dark corners of Mementos...   Fine, let’s hear it. Please sit down.Music: What’s Going On?  Her boyfriend stopped abusing her…? I don’t believe it! But even if he did stop, her fate should still be heading down the path to misery, without changing! I mean… look!Chihaya performs a reading.  The sequence of arcana has completely changed! “Death” has moved far off into the future…Uh, shouldn’t that be Tower? Death is about endings, not actual death.  Nrgh… No, no, no! This must be some sort of trick. What are you, a scam artist? You made a deal with her boyfriend or something, didn’t you? That’s an obvious lie! It couldn’t have been that simple… Did you plunge him into Tokyo Bay, or cram him into a metal drum and dump insects on him? You must’ve taken some sort of extreme measures! Well… you certainly do seem ordinary… Yes, quite ordinary, indeed. But there’s no way that could’ve happened… without you breaking the law. I mean, how could an ordinary high school student change the course of fate…? ...Fine. I’m just going to have to verify your power. The very power that reversed my tarot card prediction! This is quite a serious situation for a fortune teller like me. I need to get to the bottom of this. You won’t have to do anything. Just sit next to me while I tell fortunes. And if another unopposable fate happens to appear… then I’ll test your power. Well… that may be true… Oh, I know… I’ll read your fortune! Please? I’ll even prioritize your readings over my regular customers. Besides, I’ll be able to provide much more accurate predictions once I get to know you better! How does that sound? Is it a deal? *sigh* Otherwise, I won’t be able to go on… Please, I beg you… I need to know if fate can truly be changed… You will? Really!? OK then, I look forward to verifying your “skills”! Please don’t blow me off, OK? We made a deal, after all. I’ve made a deal with Chihaya...Music: Interrogation Room    Or perhaps you had someone you consulted who gave you precise advice. You’re not getting away this time with just luck!...What the gently caress are you asking me? Are you having a stroke? Music: The Spirit   Fortune portends luck (good or bad, depending on the orientation), karma, and destiny, but when reversed represents negative forces outside of one’s control. Okay, so despite my rather clear distaste for Chihaya as a person (I should mention I never got her beyond Rank 3 in my original run), her skills can be quite useful. However, her selection of skills is somewhat… eclectic. In fact, I would say that her skills range from “literal worst garbage in the whole entire game” to “loving essential.” We’re probably going to be blitzing through Chihaya’s Confidant pretty fast for one of these abilities that is going to be pretty much necessary to see everything we want to. This current ability, Luck Reading, is one of those useful skills, for the record. It lets us add another “note” any time we gain points in a social stat for the rest of the day after the reading, and doesn’t take time. Now, apparently the boosted point doesn’t display (looking into this, apparently the actual value of each note can be one of multiple values, not just 1, 2, or 3, and that’s the number that gets a 50% boost from the Luck Reading, which is then rounded down,) when it would go from +2 to +3. If this is true, it’ll make the points a little inaccurate, but no one’s counting these anyway so it’s fine. There’s still a benefit, so it really doesn’t matter. Buuuuuut, while we’re here, let’s explore how those stats work, courtesy of some Japanese wiki I found! 1 note is 2 points, 2 notes are 3 or 4 points (but functionally always 3 points unless it’s boosted), and 3 notes are either 5, 7 (certain activities like special books that take three “periods” instead of two to complete, or a boosted 5), or 10 (a boosted 7). This means that, yes, a Luck Reading boost of 50% will increase one note to two, but never two notes to three, because the number is rounded down. Music: What’s Going On?  If it’s really possible, then...  Oh, it’s getting late! Let’s close up shop for today. It’s past your curfew…  Anon: Who do they think they are Anon: dunno what they want. NO Anon: Who needs police anymore?  All the news on Kaneshiro has distracted me from studying. Did it suddenly get hot? I couldn’t sleep last night... I heard the Phantom Thieves might be from our school! That can’t be true. It’d be funny if it was though...Anon: C’mon, show us your faces! Anon: Truly. They got Kaneshiro. Anon: get rekt, scumbags lmao Anon: jokes on the cops! rofl Anon: Could this really be it? Anon: Holy poo poo, making history! Anon: cmon, next target plz Anon: Obviously. Let’s watch! Anon: YES!!! fan club plz Anon: Phantom Thieves YAAAS! Music: Life Goes On  All right, exam time. We got this.   That sounds about right. Let’s see… An essay question? This looks tough, but let’s calm down and think it through. Goemon was popular because he wasn’t just a thief. He was a… Stealing from the rich and giving to the poor—yup, that’s Goemon all right. And, the person in power who had it in for Goemon was... Yeah, Hideyoshi was the most powerful figure during the Sengoku period. And, Goemon’s death after he got captured by Hideyoshi is famous too... Yeah! We even have the term “Goemon bath” because of it! “Goemon fought against those in power and was executed for it. After his death, he was seen as a hero.” You finished in time! Time is up. Hmph… Give up already. Anon: Holy poo poo, making history!    That sounds about right.  That sounds about right. Anon: dunno what they want. NO Anon: NO poo poo??? hahaha Anon: omg they got the mafia lol    That sounds about right.  That sounds about right. Look at this freshman psych major-rear end response. “Justice is relative,” gently caress off. Anon: They’re surely in the right. Anon: i call bs  You’ve seen all these before. You’ve got this, all right? …… This is going good. Looking forward to seeing your score.Music: Tokyo Daylight  I can get back to actually sleepin’ in peace... Huh. You must have been studying pretty hard if it kept you up at night. Nah, I was up playin’ video games. Slackin’ off is just too much fun… I know, right!? I kept cleaning my room instead of studying! It might even be too clean now... You two are perfect exemplars of what escapism can mean. *sigh* And I can only imagine what the end result will be. Whatever, it’s over with now. Who cares about that anymore!? What’s real important is the Phantom Thieves’ popularity! Ain’t it amazin’!? It kinda feels like our time’s finally here! I have even heard people excitedly speculating about our next target. We will have to choose carefully. There’s no need to hurry. We should spend some time thinking it over. Hold up, the most important thing now is our celebration party! I hope you guys didn’t forget. It’s the fireworks festival on the 18th. I guess we’re good meetin’ up in Shibuya, yeah? Let’s say… 5 pm! You sure are on top of these kinds of things...Music: Beneath the Mask -Rain-  It seems we’ll continue to have localized torrential rainstorms all through next week. If you’re heading outside, be prepared for sudden changes in the weather. I mean, they didn’t say anything about rain today...  You can only win if you buy a ticket! Tickets are on sale now until July 31st! True, you’ll never win if you don’t buy a ticket… You want to try buying one?Hell no.   That voice on the phone wasn’t Kawakami. Maybe you should ask for more details?  This is the head nurse at Aoyama Hospital, speaking on behalf of Kawakami-san.What!? Kawakami-san fainted and is currently hospitalized at our facility. Do you know our hospital’s address? Her room number is… This isn’t good. Let’s head over there right away!Wait a second. The nurse picked up the phone. Have we been directly calling Kawakami instead of the maid service this entire time? I guess that’d explain why she always was the one to pick up the phone, but it’s pretty weird. Also, the nurse knew our name, which means that Kawakami told her that we’d be calling. That’s not a plot hole, I just think it’s really sad that we’re the only person who might be calling her.   But thanks for coming all this way to visit me. Ugh, how could I collapse at a time like this? I really need to make some money… How am I going to make today’s payment…? Music: Suspicion  Takase-san! You contacted the school…!? Well, you weren’t answering your phone! And when I thought you finally answered, it was a nurse who told us you were here. It’s really an inconvenience for us when you miss a payment, you know. Now, now, it’s not like she wanted to collapse… But our credit card payment is coming up soon, so we’ll need you to transfer the money. I-I’m sorry... These are Takase-kun’s guardians, the ones I mentioned the other day. They took care of him... Who’s this…? He’s one of my students. He came to visit me... Messing around with another student, huh? Hahaha, you never learn, do you? Tsk, tsk… And after all you did to him... I’m sorry... So? When are you going to transfer the money? I should be able to send it out tomorrow...  Stay out of this! Don’t act so tough, kid. Our precious adoptive son, Taiki, died because of this woman. Honestly, she should’ve been fired. That’s not... And yet, she still doesn’t know her place… and she still continues to teach. We’re gonna need you to show some remorse for what you did to him… ...In a material and undeniable way! ...I understand. I will pay you… So…! It’s not like we’re trying to extort you. But who was it that convinced Taiki to start studying when he needed to be working? The schoolwork on top of his part-time jobs overwhelmed him, which led him to that accident… Poor Taiki… It’s almost like he was murdered!I’m really loving this scam you two got going here, especially the Mrs.’s role in it all. The man comes in all angry and forceful, and the lady contrasts with “care” and “understanding,” while piling on the guilt. Make no mistake, this is a practiced, confident shittiness. So you no longer feel regret? In that case, perhaps we should sue the Board of Education… Or should we have a chat with your school? Either way, your days as a teacher would be over. Well, we’re looking forward to receiving your payment. I guess transferring to our sister company is the only way…One guess as to what this “sister company” does, ugh.   Why…? Why are you so interested in helping me? I’m not worth it...   I don’t know how the game managed to make the word “Meow” horrifically depressing but I’m here for it. Music: Alleycat ...I’m so tired. All I really want is… a way to apologize to Takase-kun. So if his guardians demand money, then I just have to pay them... Sorry, I’m not quite back to a hundred percent yet, so my thoughts are all over the place… ...I’m going to get some rest. I appreciate you coming to visit me today. ...It made me really happy. I feel that Kawakami is starting to depend on me... And now when we call Kawakami she’ll make us curry or infiltration tools! This seems kind of hosed considering how badly she was getting exploited in the previous scene!   ...But you’re not hooked up to an IV. ...Visiting hours are over. Get home safe, OK…? Huh…? Who could that be at this hour…?Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)  Everyone’s talking about that chick flick “Love Possibly”! I get kind of weepy, so it’s embarrassing to go alone… Can you come watch it with me? So, do you want to make plans for tomorrow?Well, we could use the social stats even if we don’t need the Confidant points, so sure. >Commit All right, let’s meet in front of the movie theater in Shibuya! A chick flick, huh? Sounds like something Lady Ann would be into. *yawn* We should go to bed.
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Say what you will about Kawakami, the game does a really, really good job on getting you to loving hate the Takases.
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Kawakami probably has caller ID on her phone.
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Nov 5, 2017 17:53
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That makes a lot more sense 
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Nov 5, 2017 18:23
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Okay, I think the real reason Sae isn't getting that promotion is because she's really bad at this thing. "A lot of luck was involved in your capers. SOMEONE MUST'VE BEEN GIVING YOU PRECISE ADVICE THAT MADE YOU LUCKY. SPILL IT NASTY CRIMEBOY."
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So is it at this point our dead MC figures "hey maybe I should use this power I have to change peoples hearts to stop the parents from being greedy fucks?"Funky Valentine posted:Okay, I think the real reason Sae isn't getting that promotion is because she's really bad at this thing.
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Nov 5, 2017 18:36
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Kawakami also directly gives Maaku her number after she's outed as Becky for the first time and he bails her out from Ms. Chouno's interrogation.
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Nov 5, 2017 18:50
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Man, gently caress the Takases.
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Funky Valentine posted:Okay, I think the real reason Sae isn't getting that promotion is because she's really bad at this thing. I hope these end up getting more and more contrived
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Arist posted:Anon: Phantom Thieves YAAAS! YAAAS guy is probably my favorite of these commenters.  Also, I just wanna plug the exam music again, because it's really drat good and chill and it's a shame that it only gets used for the exams. Deceitful Penguin posted:So is it at this point our dead MC figures "hey maybe I should use this power I have to change peoples hearts to stop the parents from being greedy fucks?" Unfortunately, we don't have their full names yet. As for Chihaya, well, she is a con artist, even if her predictions are surprisingly accurate.
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The Takases should just crawl back into whatever hole they crawled out of. Ugh, all I want to do is kick them where it hurts.
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Those two aren't even in the top five most hateable confidant-related targets in the game.
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Kay Kessler posted:Those two aren't even in the top five most hateable confidant-related targets in the game. They are still very hateable. But if one of your top five does show up, mention it. I think I can guess a few of them though. Blademaster_Aio fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 5, 2017 |
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Kay Kessler posted:Those two aren't even in the top five most hateable confidant-related targets in the game. ? They're in my top five, and maybe I'm just forgetting some people already, but would you mind pointing those people out as well? I'm pretty sure we share at least one other target though... Yeah, the test music is pretty chill, and somehow I need to arrange a MIDI of Morgana saying "Ooh, we can do this!" for when I need encouragement.  And privately... the fact that Sae is just as bad at interrogating people as her sister is at spying on them does warm me towards her a little. This game... you can't take it seriously.
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Kay Kessler posted:Those two aren't even in the top five most hateable confidant-related targets in the game. I will be curious to hear how you rate them. They are definitely not the worst but I can see them slotting quite comfortably into the top three.
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"You must have been extraordinarily lucky!!" is such a bullshit accusation to level at someone
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Nov 6, 2017 12:13
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Perhaps THIS will jog your memory! *holds up rabbit's foot*
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Nov 6, 2017 12:17
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The constant flashbacks to the interrogation room when unlocking a confidants were the most annoying parts in the game for me.
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Really Pants posted:Perhaps THIS will jog your memory! *holds up rabbit's foot* 
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I honestly would not be surprised if this was Sae's first interrogation, but I don't have enough knowledge of the entire organisation to say if that's unexpected or not.
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