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Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

Reasons for an anime to wear glasses:
  • it's a fetish
  • because they're blind
  • because they're blind and it's a fetish
  • it's a ploy to make people let down their guard
  • so they can go ominously opaque at a key moment
  • so they can slowly take the glasses off, drop them on the ground & step on them/crush them in one hand at a key moment
Reasons for an anime to not wear glasses:
  • corrective lenses for treating near- or far-sightedness

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Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

Rangpur posted:

Reasons for an anime to wear glasses:
  • it's a fetish
  • because they're blind
  • because they're blind and it's a fetish
  • it's a ploy to make people let down their guard
  • so they can go ominously opaque at a key moment
  • so they can slowly take the glasses off, drop them on the ground & step on them/crush them in one hand at a key moment
Reasons for an anime to not wear glasses:
  • corrective lenses for treating near- or far-sightedness
  • Because it’s a long running metaphor in a series about the masks people wear over their true selves and trying to see the truth of things.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Maaku: My glasses! I can't be seen without my glasses!

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Rangpur posted:

Reasons for an anime to wear glasses:
  • it's a fetish
  • because they're blind
  • because they're blind and it's a fetish
  • it's a ploy to make people let down their guard
  • so they can go ominously opaque at a key moment
  • so they can slowly take the glasses off, drop them on the ground & step on them/crush them in one hand at a key moment
Reasons for an anime to not wear glasses:
  • corrective lenses for treating near- or far-sightedness

This sounds about right.

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer

Funky Valentine posted:

Maaku: My glasses! I can't be seen without my glasses!

Joker: My glasses! I can't be seen without my glasses!

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Is nobody going to notice that Medjed is one massive Ghost In The Shell reference?

cdyoung
Mar 2, 2012

Junpei posted:

Is nobody going to notice that Medjed is one massive Ghost In The Shell reference?

I believe that would have been touched on when it became apparent Junpei, can you not point out the references so soon though? that's the thread poster's job.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 70: 7/19-7/20: Alibaba And The Phantom Thieves



Anon: im staying out of this poo poo
Anon: Medjed must be bored too
Anon: both are crossing the line


Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)




They target corporations doing shady business and cause chaos. The subway company’s server thing? That was Medjed, trying to find out who caused the train accident.
So, they’re good guys?
Some liken them to digital Robin Hoods… But they snoop through emails and destroy data. They’re no better than criminals.



They dare call themselves heroes after attacking those companies? Pfft.

Oh, won’t someone think of the poor corporations?

They’re fighting Medjed next!? The Phantom Thieves are amazing!
I don’t wanna hear about justice from some shady hackers.
I don’t care what happens, as long as it’s interesting!

Anon: Hang in there you guys! ;w;
Anon: They’re gonna do it, right?
Anon: can phantom thieves win?
Anon: When are they gonna react?
Anon: whoever wins is just!


The just one is the winner, eh? Get off the internet, Kakyoin.

Anon: they’re both poo poo.

Rude.



How’d you do?
drat… I’m dead...
I wish I could get in the top ten… People look at smart students differently.
I wonder what score I got… I’m in the top ten!
Whoa! Everyone’s gonna have their eyes on you now!

Maaku gains Charm +3.

Charm is the reward for doing well on exams in Persona 5, whereas previously it was Social Link points with your classmates. P5 does some work to distance many (but not all) of its links from a school context, so getting Confidant points wouldn’t really make sense.

Music: Wicked Plan



Hey, it’s not my fault my scores suck, right?




Anyways, there’s something more important here! Mishima...
You want to ask me something about the internet, right?

“No, Ryuji, it’s not a series of tubes.”

Yup. I’m gonna be straight with you here—do you know who Medjed is?
You weren’t kidding about being direct. Well, I suppose the news about Medjed and the Phantom Thieves has caused quite the commotion… They started out as hackers of justice, but now they only look out for their own self-interests. ...That’s all I know. They were the group I texted Hamiru about yesterday.
I see…
Nobody’s sure who actually belongs to Medjed. Well, it looks like things’ll be exciting this summer. It’ll be the Phantom Thieves’ world debut, no?
Dude...
Don’t worry, I’ll be rooting for the Phantom Thieves. I’ll get the forum mobilized as well. Now if we’re done talking here, I really must be going. I’ll see you guys later.





I tried asking my sister, but it seemed as though she didn’t know very much about them. She doesn’t specialize in cybercrime, after all.

“And then she yelled at me for no reason. All in all, it was an average Monday night.”

I tried looking into them too, but I didn’t come up with anything. There are really just no leads.
Hm, our opponent is truly elusive.



Medjed, hm…? It seems like we won’t be able to deal with them by ourselves…

Music: So Boring



We will be holding an emergency assembly on Monday the 25th. Please come to school that day.



The students begin to groan and chatter.

Settle down! We’ve has many strange incidents: the psychotic breakdowns, students being dragged into crime rings… Hence, Principal Kobayakawa has instructed all teachers to caution the student body. This is inconvenient for us too, you know? Having to find things to warn you about so suddenly...



I’m not sure. No matter how hard I look online, all I find are just unreliable rumors.
They have carried out corporate terrorism, yet they still manage to elude arrest somehow.



Yeah… We don’t even know whether it’s a single individual or a large conglomerate of people. And even if we do manage to get a lead, what do we do from there?
drat, this stuff’s really not going so good… That’s prolly why my exams’re going to poo poo too.
You know those are two separate things, right?



Mwehehe… Clues on Medjed, huh…?

Music: Tokyo Daylight



Placing in the top ten has changed some things about our perception around school… for today at least.









Even if they’re going to keep avoiding us, it’s nice to see them awestruck by our brainpower.



Akechi-kun was saying those hackers showed up again because of the Phantom Thieves.
Hackers and Phantom Thieves sound like something out of a manga though. It’s funny if you think about it. I wonder who’d win in a fight. A lot of people online are getting excited over all this.



If there’s anything you’d like to know, ask away. Consider it the newspaper club’s special service.



There’s excitement over the Phantom Thieves, but there’s also a lot of talk about summer plans. Some students are studying like mad for their college entrance exams, so their summer won’t be as relaxed.



Ah, it’d be a major scoop if I knew. Secret identities are definitely front page material. The mass media knows it’d be major news too. Shujin Academy will likely draw attention again.



There’s been all this excitement over the Phantom Thieves. You hear a lot about them too, right? Now that they’ve crushed the mafia, everyone is waiting for their next move.



*raises eyebrows*

I’ve… got my newspaper club activities. There’s plenty to do with all these incidents going on. I’m hoping I can attract new members if I write up some really good articles.

No, I was… oh, never mind.



He’s still saying the Phantom Thieves are dangerous, right? That loner must not have any friends.
Hey, now. Don’t say that. Everyone’s allowed to have their own opinion. But he does seem too smart to be in high school. You could be right about him being lonely.
Well, I guess I’m glad that I’m stupid then. Hahaha!



Do you think the Phantom Thieves are a danger to society? Send us your opinions by email or fax.
Phantom Thieves…? They’re not real. There’s no way people like that are real.



And thanks to the internet, now everyone knows the police were just full of talk.
Now that the police have lost face, the mass media will swing over to the Phantom Thieves. Phantom Thieves, huh? Looks like things’ll get pretty busy for us soon.

I couldn't get portraits of these clowns due to the fixed camera angle so here, have an amazing stock photo and also Jeff Winger.




We can’t do it when it rains though, since we’ll be outside… Come during the day for your fortune and at night for the test.

Chihaya’s contacted us to say that we can actually talk to her during the day now (as long as it isn’t raining), which is handy (and, in fact, necessary) for some of her fortune readings. Her Confidant is still only available at night, though.



...Um, if you’re available, I’d like to talk to you about Eiko.
>Hang out with her
Thank goodness. I have a small favor to ask you… Let’s get a drink before we talk.

Music: Wicked Plan



Wait, a host? I’ve played enough Yakuza to know how skeevy that sounds.

I guess he, um… hit on her one day after her shift, and that was that. Since then he’s the only thing she’ll talk about. She even sent me a picture of their date at Destinyland.




For now it seems he hasn’t forced her to spend any money at his club, but I’m still nervous… Beyond that, he calls her his “princess” and constantly tells her how special she is. It makes me sick to my stomach. But Eiko refuses to listen to me. She said the idea that all hosts are bad people is outdated…

But the idea that all people willing to date high schoolers are bad people is very much not so.

She even said she was shocked to be getting advice from someone who would “totally flunk a test about love.”





S-Sorry about that. I’m probably just being biased towards him. I mean, I don’t have any proof that he’s untrustworthy… But that’s why I want to meet him and find out for myself what kind of person he really is. And… if it’s not too much to ask, I’d like you to accompany me on this excursion as well.



This time, um… you’ll have to play the role of my boyfriend.



I was born ready!



I think if I have a boyfriend, Eiko might be more inclined to listen to me. To tell you the truth… I actually already made plans with her and her boyfriend for a double date. S-Sorry. But it’s just going to be at a diner. Nothing particularly fancy, I promise.
*nods*
Thank you! You’re a tremendous help. I’m so glad you agreed to this. I don’t know who else I’d have asked if you had said no...
I can sense Makoto’s trust in me...



Eiko… I hope she’s not getting herself wrapped up in anything dangerous.

Says the Phantom Thief.

But just in case, I’ll try looking for some info on that host. Well, see you later.

Music: Beneath the Mask




Did you find anything?
As you know, Medjed is a god that appears in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
Huh?
Its name apparently means “the smiter.” It seems nobody is actually sure that Medjed is a real name. On top of that, almost everything else about him is unknown. Even his form is unattainable. An unseen god that flies through the sky and shoots from his eyes… He truly is an elusive being.
Dude.
Everything about his existence is shrouded in mystery.
Wait.
Fundamentally speaking, ancient Egyptian art always depicted gods drawn in a side profile.



I hope that information was at least somewhat useful.

It was… something, all right.

Indeed it was.
Should I look into it more?
That’s enough, thank you.
So, we still don’t have any tangible clues...

For reference, Medjed looks like this:



What the hell.



In the past few years, the damage they have caused has grown to several hundred billion yen. Even this year, there have been several cyber attacks attributed to Medjed.
What a mysterious group… Just what is their goal?



Did they just declare war? I wonder if the Phantom Thieves stand a chance against Medjed...
The Phantom Thieves got this! They got this poo poo, m’dude! Onward toward victory!
Uh… Yeah, sure. Anyways, we got finals, so we gotta get home.



How did that happen!? Does this have to do with all that news lately?
When I’m on the internet, these peculiar screens keep popping up. And I get these weird bills...
Whoa there… Did you click some shady links on a porn site!?




Bring it on! We’re not done with these tests yet! I’m actually doing a reading for a client right now, so please stay and watch...

Music: What’s Going On?



This is your first time coming to my stand, yes?
Y-Yeah, um… A colleague of mine recommended you. He said you can help fix my problems… Is that right?
Of course! Fate is… absolute…

As Chihaya says this, she looks over at Maaku.

S-So, um, the thing is… I’m engaged to be married. Next spring, I’ll be trying the knot with a friend I’ve had since all the way back in preschool...



So, what’s worrying you? Is it perhaps the date of the ceremony, or perhaps the location of your honeymoon?
O-Oh, um… No, it’s not like that. The problem is… I’m not entirely sure we’ll be able to get married. The truth is, the president of one of our major business partners has offered me her daughter’s hand...
Ah… So this is what it means to be weighed down by societal obligations...
Do, um… Do you think it would be bad if I declined that president’s offer…? Haha… Hahaha...
Please relax. The divine power will bring us your answer!



My… it seems you will face financial ruin if you decline…
N-No… Does this mean breaking off my engagement is the only option…?
Um, Hamiru-san? This may be a good time to demonstrate your powers. This man is bound by the fetters of societal obligation… How should he move forward?



Oh, that’s a wonderful suggestion! Though I guess anyone could have come up with that answer… Incidentally, what would you say to make him choose his childhood friend…?



Thieves…? She’s not a child.
W-Wait, you really think someone else would try to go after her…!? Huh… I guess guys would line up to date such an amazing girl… Well, I’m not going to let that happen! The only one who can make her happy is me! I was a fool for hesitating, even for a moment…! I… I’m going to marry her! Thank you so much!

Aww. :unsmith:

It’s happened again…

You know, Chihaya’s still kind of a butt. That said, I could really get behind another seven ranks of wacky fortune-changing hijinks courtesy of Mifune and Hamiru.



I had questioned your powers, but this is the third time… I have no choice… I must accept that fate can, in fact, be changed. You’ve proven that to me. And as a sign of thanks for showing me the truth… I’ll provide a special fortune service for you from now on!
I can sense Chihaya’s intense motivation...



Money Reading is a skill that I’ve never used but is obviously incredibly useful. For 5,000 yen, we can increase the amount of money we gain from battles for the rest of the day. This is, no poo poo, incredibly lopsided in our favor. I haven’t been able to find any stats on the percentage increase, but I don’t think it’s 50% because that would be loving absurd. Even if it’s like 10%, it’s well worth it to spend the cash every time we head into a Palace or Mementos, as long as it’s not raining. Edit: Apparently it is, in fact, obscenely high, but only applies to battles finished by All-out Attacks for whatever reason. If this is documented anywhere in the game, I've never seen it. Still, it's loving amazing.

You know, I never thought it was possible to change destiny… Are you perhaps… a psychic?



If I was psychic, I’d probably have been able to see through your lovely Holy Stone scam.

...Actually, no. Such powerful people do not exist in this world. You may oversee changes in fate, but purposefully altering one’s destiny is… impossible. That is why I’ll forever be a monster...




M-My, it’s gotten so late! I should start packing up for today. I’ll see you next time! Farewell.



Music: Aria of the Soul




To think you would relax under such circumstances. Either you’re quite bold… or quite foolish.
One with an “unseen” form, hm? It seems you’ve been targeted by troublesome company.



:bignews:

*chuckle* I’ve been enjoying this endless dispute over “justice.” However, it will soon come to an end—and through the appearance of an unexpected force, of all things. Engaging with formidable enemies is also part of your rehabilitation. I ask that you overcome this. After all, you must hone your powers… and become a magnificent thief...



Anon: yeah, yeah, it’s all a setup
Anon: It’s just like Akechi said!
Anon: is medjed worse than mafia?
Anon: can phantom thieves win?


Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)



I didn’t think Medjed would pounce on the Phantom Thieves. Interesting things keep happening this year. The influence of #Millennials knows no bounds… I underestimated it, honestly. I wonder what the public thinks of this. Are they entertained? Or perhaps inconvenienced?




A luxury for the uninvolved. I know they mean no ill intent. So this is what the public thinks… ...Whoops, I don’t have time for a conversation. My attendance has been poor due to interviews lately. Thank you for your valuable opinion. I’ll see you around.



Which of them will come out on top? They’re both just criminals pretending to be heroes.
If you ask me, Medjed causes way more trouble. They attack every company they set their sights on.

I don’t know, from what you’re saying they sound like fine anticapitalists to me!

I see… Well, I just hope something happens soon. But you gotta tell me—who do you think will win?




Music: Desire



I am the one they call Alibaba. I want to ask you something. You’re a phantom thief, aren’t you? Can you really steal hearts?
Who is this? Why does he know that you’re a phantom thief? Is one of our teammates pulling a prank on you?
There is someone whose heart I would like you to steal. But I’m not asking for charity. Let’s make a deal. You wish to know about Medjed, correct? I can give you information on them if the change of heart is successful. If you so desire, I can take care of them as well. Do you believe in my skills? I can track down their accounts, just as I have with yours. But this is all I can prove at the moment. I’ve prepared the necessary tool on my end. Look forward to it.
Shouldn’t you respond to it?
How should I respond…?



Maaku tries to respond, but...



Hm? You can’t reply back? I don’t know what this is about, but we should probably let everyone know about this...

Music: Suspicion



Seems so...
How were we found out?
He may have traced our chat log...
How careless of us…
But how would he have known all these details with just that…?

Uh, we’ve been pretty fuckin’ cavalier about discussing Phantom Thieves business via text, Makoto.

Do you think that there is another cause?
Yeah. I’m not sure why, but that’s the feeling I get.
Hey, is it that easy to look at someone’s chat log?
I don’t know much about it myself, but… it’s probably not impossible, I think?
How’s it done?
Maybe they extracted our phones’ data…?
Why’s Maaku getting an error when he tries to reply?
Perhaps the receiving end doesn’t exist?



Don’t ask me everything. I told you that I don’t know much about it.
Wait. Might this be what is referred to as hacking?



I don’t get high tech stuff! What does this all mean?
An unknown hacker contacted us!
I see. I don’t really get it.
Then, is this person Medjed?
I doubt it, considering he says he wants to “deal” with them. That is, only if we take his words for face value.
True...
Hey… Wouldn’t it be great if we got this guy on our side?
But we know nothing about his identity at all. We can’t trust him.
I don’t think it’s a bad deal though...
Even if Alibaba turns out to be a criminal? I am not helping anyone of that sort.
Oh, right. That wouldn’t be good...
The “I’ve prepared the necessary tool” part makes no sense either.
Could this just be a prank?
He knows an awful lot for it to be a prank.
If he knows who we are, won’t we get caught?
No. If he wanted to report us, I think he would’ve done it already.
He must have some sort of objective of his own. He did offer us a deal, after all. I’m certain he’ll contact us again.
There’s no telling when he’ll do so though… It’d be best if we stay together. If something happens, we can act at once.
Yeah. So, somewhere we can wait and hide for long hours...
How about Leblanc?
*nods*

Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)





Hey there, Chief. What’s so important that you didn’t notice the bell ringing and five people walking in?




Good evening. We were thinking about putting together plans for our summer.
Hm? Is that a new face I see?
It’s nice to meet you. My name is Makoto Niijima. I hope we’re not being a bother.
She’s our student council president.
Niijima…?
Is something wrong?
...Nah, it’s nothing. A student council president, eh? I’m stunned. I hope he’s not causing you too much trouble. I’m Sojiro Sakura, but everyone just calls me Boss.

That’s weird, because I don’t think I’ve heard that nickname once!



This old man’ll get going and leave you kids be. All right, the store’s all yours.

Music: Suspicion



Just moments ago, a new message has been released on their website. They have announced their victory over the Phantom Thieves. Medjed also warns any Japanese citizens who praised the Phantom Thieves to stop doing so. We will report any further actions by Medjed as they arrive.



Oh, come on! It’s in English!
Let me see… “The Phantom Thieves remain silent at our question. This proves that we are just. People of Japan, wake up. You must not worship the Phantom Thieves.”
What!? That’s bullshit!
Keep listening.
“We will discipline any who worship them. The punishment is the confiscation of possessions. We are Medjed. We are unseen. We will eliminate evil.” ...That’s what it says.
What does that all mean!?
They’re saying that they’ll target sympathizers of the Phantom Thieves.
Confiscation of possessions, hm…?
Perhaps bank accounts or personal information… Either way, it won’t be anything pleasant.
Why the hell are we being singled out?
Perhaps all they care about is labeling the Phantom Thieves as crooks. That all this wouldn’t have happened had the Phantom Thieves not existed.
That’s complete bullshit.
Talk about a troublesome organization that we’ve been targeted by…
Isn’t there anything we can do?
It’s certain we can’t do anything about this on our own…



Well, it’s probably none of your business, Ryuji. As far as you know, it’s from my parents, whatever the hell they’re doing.

We don’t need any more trouble.

You know what? Fair.

It’s rare for you to get something like this.

All right, fine you nosy bastards, I’ll open it.




Music: Disquiet



Anything else in there!? Who’s this from anyway?
There’s no stamp on it. Someone must’ve directly dropped it into the mailbox here…
Could it have been Alibaba…?
That reminds me, he did mention something about preparing the “necessary tool”… Don’t tell me… Is this what he was talking about!?
What the hell’s goin’ on here…?
All we can do at the moment is wait for Alibaba’s orders. Let’s brace ourselves and stand by… in case anything comes up.
Oh dear...

Music: Beneath the Mask




“The showdown between the just Phantom Thieves and the global organization Medjed is here!” Reactions have been great too. Everyone is really engaged. So far, most of the comments have been pro-Phantom Thieves. Most likely because of what happened in the Kaneshiro case. Those on the other side say Medjed are “hackers of justice.” But there’s nothing resembling justice in what they do. Someday, I want the whole site to be filled with pro-Thieves comments. I’m looking forward to when that day finally arrives.
He can look forward to whatever he wants, but we have no means of striking back against Medjed. We’re gonna be in deep trouble if we don’t do something...



What the hell’s going on?



“The Phantom Thieves remain silent at our question. This proves that we are just. People of Japan, wake up. You must not worship the Phantom Thieves. We will discipline any who worship them. The punishment is the confiscation of possessions. We are Medjed. We are unseen. We will eliminate evil.”
They’re just acting without even waiting for us to respond! What are they planning to do?



Well, we’re totally hosed and out of options, so I guess we’re going to hand our fate to this mysterious Alibaba character in the start of what’s probably my pick for strongest arc in the game. Next time, we’ll hopefully get to the bottom of this!

Arist fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Nov 12, 2017

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Medjed is run by a sad sad little man bumming in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

I've mentioned it before, but I love all of these small setting details, like the Boss Oyabun Coffee machines with the similar looking logo and the familiar blue color associated with them in Shibuya and in the school courtyard. Can you buy SP drinks from them as well?

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
Medjed is Punpun, apparently :v:

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Medjed should probably not set themselves up to be investigated by the japanese government.

Also, Makoto is transparently into the protagonist, and it’s adorable.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Arist posted:

“We will discipline any who worship them. The punishment is the confiscation of possessions. We are Medjed. We are unseen. We will eliminate evil.” ...That’s what it says.
What does that all mean!?
They’re saying that they’ll target sympathizers of the Phantom Thieves.

LATER IN THE UPDATE:

“The showdown between the just Phantom Thieves and the global organization Medjed is here!” Reactions have been great too. Everyone is really engaged. So far, most of the comments have been pro-Phantom Thieves. Most likely because of what happened in the Kaneshiro case.
god loving damnit mishima

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

GeneX posted:

Medjed should probably not set themselves up to be investigated by the japanese government.

Also, Makoto is transparently into the protagonist, and it’s adorable.

Makoto has two settings, either being a bad rear end or adorable.

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me
I knew something between "gently caress" and "all" about ancient Egyptian mythology, so Yuuske's weird little interlude was actually educational for me!

At least I assume it was educational and not some bored Japanese programmer pulling something out of their rear end.

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


GeneX posted:

Also, Makoto is transparently into the protagonist, and it’s adorable.

:hai:

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I knew something between "gently caress" and "all" about ancient Egyptian mythology, so Yuuske's weird little interlude was actually educational for me!

At least I assume it was educational and not some bored Japanese programmer pulling something out of their rear end.

No, it's a real thing, and Medjed is something of an internet meme in Japan. After all, he's said to destroy using his eyes, and eye lasers are really anime

Here's an ancient Egyptian figure, Nitocris, as portrayed by the mobile game Fate / Grand Order

https://youtu.be/B2527LkOUBA

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


taking this opportunity to post my favorite medjed fanart

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Power Bottom posted:

god loving damnit mishima
Eh, he's a Confidant, which means Mishima probably has some degree of plot armor. Then again, I will laugh if Mishima's forum post is what leads to the reveal of who Medjed is/are, because just the thought of a dork like Mishima being partially responsible for taking down a hacker group is hilarious.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I knew something between "gently caress" and "all" about ancient Egyptian mythology, so Yuuske's weird little interlude was actually educational for me!

At least I assume it was educational and not some bored Japanese programmer pulling something out of their rear end.

Ding ding ding, ding ding ding ding! Got it in one!

And that programmer's name... Was Hideo Kojima.

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

RareAcumen posted:

Ding ding ding, ding ding ding ding! Got it in one!

And that programmer's name... Was Hideo Kojima.

I would pay an absurd amount of money for Hideo Kojima to do a Persona game.

Hell, I'd pay a decent amount of money just to hear him spitball ideas about a persona game.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I knew something between "gently caress" and "all" about ancient Egyptian mythology, so Yuuske's weird little interlude was actually educational for me!

At least I assume it was educational and not some bored Japanese programmer pulling something out of their rear end.

My favorite part about the interlude is how Yusuke just rapid-fires these responses at the group within seconds and Ryuji's texts briefly pop in between Yusuke's walls of text. Whoever was in charge of the comic timing with regards to the text chats was on point.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?

Deltasquid posted:

My favorite part about the interlude is how Yusuke just rapid-fires these responses at the group within seconds and Ryuji's texts briefly pop in between Yusuke's walls of text. Whoever was in charge of the comic timing with regards to the text chats was on point.

Oh yes, it's probably my favorite chat conversation in the game... you can just feel Makoto's :what: at the end.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


GhostStalker posted:

I've mentioned it before, but I love all of these small setting details, like the Boss Oyabun Coffee machines with the similar looking logo and the familiar blue color associated with them in Shibuya and in the school courtyard. Can you buy SP drinks from them as well?

You can, in fact.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


AradoBalanga posted:

Eh, he's a Confidant, which means Mishima probably has some degree of plot armor. Then again, I will laugh if Mishima's forum post is what leads to the reveal of who Medjed is/are, because just the thought of a dork like Mishima being partially responsible for taking down a hacker group is hilarious.

I was more focused on Medjed pledging to punish people who were pro-PT, which was immediately followed by Mishima talking about how so many people were posting on the Phansite about how great #Millennials are.

Ten bucks says that Mishima threw the Phansite together with basic forums software that has incredibly lovely security and the Popularity-O-Meter is going to take a violent downturn when the HACKERMEN show up and start shooting fish in a barrel.

ddegenha
Jan 28, 2009

What is this?!

Arist posted:




Money Reading is a skill that I’ve never used but is obviously incredibly useful. For 5,000 yen, we can increase the amount of money we gain from battles for the rest of the day. This is, no poo poo, incredibly lopsided in our favor. I haven’t been able to find any stats on the percentage increase, but I don’t think it’s 50% because that would be loving absurd. Even if it’s like 10%, it’s well worth it to spend the cash every time we head into a Palace or Mementos, as long as it’s not raining.

It's actually a REALLY high percentage, but it only activates when you win a battle via an all out attack. It might actually be doubling the money you get in those circumstances, I just know that when I had it active it usually paid for itself in two or three battles at the most and everything else was pure profit.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Money Reading also combos really well with Hifumi's skills. If you're good at negotiating too with Yoshida's perks and know which enemies are the most profitable, you can rack up a lot of money in a single day.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Money Reading, Hifumi's perks, and a certain perk from a future Confidant result in absolute money fountains.

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


I never had to use any of those after spending a couple of hours in Mementos with confusion. :v:

Strange Forest
Mar 4, 2015

Power Bottom posted:

taking this opportunity to post my favorite medjed fanart





Is Medjed Serviceman from Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I wonder if Medjed was supposed to have eyes all around its head and it was being depicted consistently with everything else.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 71: 7/21-7/23: The Fourth Chapter Of The Blackmail Saga



Anon: online showdown!? :O
Anon: medjed is dangerous……
Anon: Hang in there you guys! ;w;




Having your money stolen sounds terrifying…
It’s unsettling not knowing what they’re going to do to us.
They’re declaring their victory? What does that mean?
I really wish they’d stop that...

Anon: ugh, again?
Anon: yo, where the police?
Anon: I bet they’re crying LOL
Anon: Which side’s Akechi-kun on?
Anon: Go go Phantom Thieves~!
Anon: QUE ES FANTOM THIEF?


QUE ES FANTOM THIEF? is the best drat response in the game.

Music: Suspicion




*sigh* It’s just Ryuji.
Nothing? Let us know ASAP if he tries to get in touch with you, mkay?

Goddammit, Ryuji.




Music: Desire



No reason not to be polite.

Ah, you responded today.



No, I know I’m right.



Hm, you’re a surprisingly diligent student.





...I see. Hm, I suppose past calling cards did have names on them. One moment. Very well, I’ll tell you. ……. I believe their name was… Futaba Sakura.

Hm, sounds oddly familiar…

If you fail in this mission, I will expose your identity to the world and to the police.

Yet more blackmail!




So he threatened you then just took off!? And Sakura…? I feel like I’ve heard that name before… In any case, we should let everyone know about this.

Music: Disquiet



“Futaba Sakura”…?
Wasn’t Sakura...



I honestly love that there isn’t even an option to point this out yourself. It is canon that we don’t remember the last name of Sojiro, who we see literally every day, and it has to be pointed out by Ann and Makoto, who’ve met him three times between the both of them. On my first playthrough, I didn’t remember it either and it blew my loving mind.

Does he have any family?
Does he?



We know nothing about this dude except that he hates deviancy and loves pussy.

For reals!? How laid-back are you!? Wouldn’t you normally be introduced at least? I mean, you ARE living at his place.
Well, his situation does make things difficult...
The calling card was delivered to Boss’s house; it’d be more natural to assume this is all related.

This game was overseen by two warring editors with opposing takes on the use of apostrophes after names ending with the letter “s.”

Ha, just kidding, this game’s localization didn’t have an editor.

One of the reasons for that is because Alibaba mentioned nothing about “which” Futaba Sakura. Perhaps he thinks that the name alone is enough.
That makes sense.
I believe it’s adequate for us to think that this is the doing of someone close by.
I see.
I don’t know how Alibaba got a hold of Maaku-kun’s smartphone information. However, since he’s ordering us through chat, I do feel as though he’s taunting us.
You mean, this might just be a prank?
I mean, look at his demands. Pay me if you don’t want me to leak who you really are—that I’d understand. But he’s telling us to steal someone’s heart without explaining why.
So we’re being tested?
Regardless, I think we should ask Boss about Futaba Sakura once.
That’s probably for the best. There’s nothing else we can do at the moment, and Chief might have an idea on what this is about too.
I’ll check the school’s roster just in case.
We must make sure Boss doesn’t figure out who we are. We’ll have to go about this cautiously.





Music: Desire



It’s got nothing to do with you. I’m going home. Make sure you lock up the place.



Music: Beneath the Mask




Could there be a reason as to why that was?
Hm. Alibaba might be our only hope of defeating Medjed. I wish we could get some info about Futaba out of Boss...
But trying to force it out would probably have the opposite effect.
To be honest, I owe a great deal to both Boss and Maaku. I don’t wish for this to be a source of discord between them.
Yeah, I know just what you mean!
It’s probably best to wait for Boss to bring the subject up himself.



Our show managed to get a “calling card” left by—as it says here--”The Phantom Thieves of Hearts.” On it, they also claim that they will make their target “confess their sins.”
Oh, we’ve gotten pretty famous. I guess it’s no surprise that we’re in the public eye now.



We don’t have any info on any of them. What in the world is going on?



Anon: can phantom thieves win?

Music: Wicked Plan



Tomorrow’s the end of the first semester, but we still got all this lame poo poo comin’ up...
If you don’t take care of this “lame poo poo,” you can kiss your summer vacation goodbye.
Oh yeah, about this Futaba Sakura girl… If she’s related to Boss, think people livin’ nearby would know about her?
That’s some keen intuition coming from you, Ryuji. You should have made use of that on your exams.
Ugh, I never wanna think about exams ever again… Anyway, askin’ around in your neighborhood might be the fastest way to figure this poo poo out. Then again, I doubt it’ll be that easy. It never is...

Music: So Boring



There’s an urgent assembly on Monday. We’ll be taking attendance. There’s been an unusual number of strange incidents this year. Don’t do anything stupid over break. Got it? Don’t go someplace shady like the red-light district, and don’t go to the beach after dark.
I wanna go to the beach… I wanna jump in some cold water… Seems like we won’t be having fun on our summer break for a while...

Music: Tokyo Daylight



Let’s head to Yongen and gather info around the neighborhood!



So, here we are in Yongen-Jaya. Our mission: to talk to everyone to discover information about this mysterious “Futaba Sakura.”



……It’s the name of my very first love, my teacher back when I was in elementary school!

As you might have guessed, these people aren’t very helpful!

...Let’s ask some other people, too.




A vintage game console… Could I actually sell it if I threw in some games…? I’ m not sure anyone would buy a game console that’s this old, though...
We can always come back here later. We need to get info on Futaba first.



No. No, I don’t know who that could be.



By the way, do you eat a lot?



Well, whenever Boss buys food, it’s enough to feed three people. ...What? You’re telling me you don’t actually eat that much? Maybe it’s Boss who eats a lot then...



Hm, but wouldn’t this Futaba get angry if they find out you’re snooping on them though?



I come to Sakura-san’s often to make deliveries, but I’ve never seen who you’re talking about.

And that’s everyone! What have we learned?

So, up until now, our biggest lead seems to be… Boss buys a lot of food, far more than enough for one person living alone. Let’s check out all the shops where you can buy food!




…… Futaba? Over at Sakura-san’s? I haven’t heard anything… Sorry. Come again!



I think our only option now is to go home and ask the chief directly...

Music: Suspicion



So you’re the one who tipped him off about Futaba. You really shouldn’t have done that. I have no intention of talking to you about Wakaba.
Tipped off…? What are you talking about? Back to the matter at hand… Your parental authority will have to be suspended. I take it you’re OK with that outcome?

Huh? Parental authority?

What!?
Considering the state of your daughter and your family overall, there are no points in your favor. Would you like to take this to domestic court? Our chances of victory are roughly 99.9% though.



Abuse!?

You’re going that far…!? I told you, I don’t know a drat thing about it.
We’re extremely serious about this. As long as there’s a possibility that cognitive psience can be linked to psychotic breakdowns…

Nuh-uh, no, that’s not how you spell that. Anyway, Sae glances over at Maaku.

Tch… Fine… I yield.



Sae puts her card down on the counter.

I doubt you’ll find anything you want to hear though.
That’s fine. It will be up to us to decide whether the information you give us is useful or not.





We have pretty much no idea what’s going on here, but it’s clear that Sae should probably never show her face in Leblanc again. Finishing that conversation with the equivalent of “Toodles!” is just hilariously lovely.



That woman is real good at pissing people off… ...What’s with that look? You got something to say?



This doesn’t involve you.



That’s enough! Just behave yourself and keep going to school if you don’t want me to throw you out of here.

...But tomorrow’s the last day.

You got that?

Yessir.

Lock the store up.



Moreso, our conjecture that Alibaba is connected to Leblanc seems to have a pretty solid foundation. Oh, and didn’t they mention “cognitive” something? ...I wonder what the chief’s hiding. We can’t really press him on the subject though, especially after he mentioned throwing you out.

Music: Beneath the Mask



I wonder…



Kizuna Fest is happening again this year, and it looks like the demand for tickets is huge. I’m a fan of Kanamin Kitchen myself—maybe that’s why I’ve just been eating meat lately… Hahaha.

Kanamin Kitchen, for those of you who didn’t play Persona 4: Dancing All Night, an actual video game that really exists, is a fast food-themed idol group primarily featuring Kanami Mashita, one of the main characters of that game who was also referenced in Persona 4 as an indirect, offscreen foil to Rise Kujikawa, then on hiatus. Anyway, the “meat” line is about how each of them have a different animal they’re associated with as part of their gimmick. Kanami makes a lot of references to herself as a “prize cow” in that game, for instance, and talks up the quality of her “meat.” It’s about as weird as it sounds.



Would the chief really do that? It’s gotta be some kind of mistake, right?

Must be.




Anon: I agree, it’s false justice

Music: Suspicion



Yeah, she was going on about domestic abuse and taking the case to court and stuff…
……
What’s up?
It’s nothing. So to summarize what you told us, Futaba is Boss’ daughter, and he’s abusing her? I don’t know him very well… Is he really the kind of person who would do that?



Not a chance. It’s Sojiro. He’s a good gu—well, actually, I don’t know that much about him, and he seems like kind of a dick, but the funny kind, not the unfortunate kind.

I would like to believe so as well, but we don’t have any conclusive evidence, do we…?

Listen, Makoto, I won’t let the good name of that rear end in a top hat who hates my guts be besmirched!




Music: Disquiet



Why aren’t you doing it? I told you I’d help you if you stole her heart. What seems to be the hold up? I also said I’d report your identity to the police if you didn’t help me. Are you OK with that? I’m serious here.
What a selfish person.
Well, he does have information on us…
Anyways, this Futaba he’s talking about have a Palace? If so, we’ll need keywords to get in. Try messaging him about ‘em.

I don’t think Alibaba will know what that means, Ryuji, considering they already got confused regarding the purpose of the calling card.



Keywords? What are you talking about? Are you just saying random stuff to dodge the issue?
What’re we supposed to do about this?
We’d be able to figure out Alibaba’s identity if we could just meet with him… Try asking if there’s any way we could meet up.



Meet? With me? That will be difficult. I have reasons for not being able to go out. That’s why I’m contacting you like this.
He can’t go out?
Wait. I get it. You steal people’s hearts directly… That might make things difficult. Extremely difficult. Hold on. I’m thinking… OK. It’s a shame, but I’m calling this deal off. Stop looking into Futaba Sakura.

Uh, what?





Huh…? Did he just shut the whole operation down?
This doesn’t make any sense… Not only can Alibaba not go out, but he won’t let us meet Futaba either?
Well, it’s none of our business now. We can’t contact him anymore.
But… what do we do about Medjed? We won’t be able to get Alibaba to help us with them now.
Maybe they were just prankin’ us. They made that huge declaration, but they ain’t done nothing since. I bet we got ‘em freaked out.
You mean they backed out because they’re afraid we’ll change their hearts?
Yup. And now it’d just make ‘em look lame if they came out and apologized!

That’s stupid! Why are we pretending this makes any sense, let alone relying on the prospect?

But--
I guess with Alibaba and Medjed outta the picture, can we just say this case is closed?

No! Because they’re not, at all!

Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)

...You do have a point. I guess it is safe for us to relax a little.

Makoto! Not you too!

Oh yeah, remember Kaneshiro’s Treasure? Prepare to have your minds blown! We got one hundred and fifty thousand yen out of it!



That’s awesome! We can really go all out with that kinda money!
Yeah! Let’s make up for what happened at the fireworks festival! We gotta go eat something fittin’ for the Phantom Thieves’ worldwide debut!
Where would be good…?
Ooh, how ‘bout sushi!? I could really go for some eel too!
The best method is to fill yourself on ginger before beginning to eat sushi. That is my master technique.

I just realized that the joke here is that he can only afford to eat ginger. Yusuke has like, one joke to his character.

You don’t need to do that this time. Actually, definitely don’t do it, OK?
I’m all for sushi! You’re OK with that too, right?



Then it’s decided.
All right! We’ll go tomorrow night!

Music: Beneath the Mask




Now that I think about it calmly, it’s strange that they haven’t actually done anything yet. If their goal is to target the Phantom Thieves, they should want to be acting now, given our fame.
Huh. When you put it that way, it kinda makes me wonder too. Especially after they taunted us theatrically like that.
Yes. However, it would be best for us to come up with a countermeasure regardless.



I was thinking that too! I can’t really put it into words though.
Hm, Yusuke is right. I’m sorry for bringing this up. On the day before our celebration party too…
Cheer up, Makoto! We’ll be eating sushi like kings tomorrow!
I hope one person in particular is on their best behavior. I’ll refrain from saying who though.
...You better not be talking about me!



As of now, no one has stepped forward and identified themselves as part of the Phantom Thieves. With the identities of both sides shrouded in mystery, everyone is watching for what they’ll do next.
We were starting to get popular. I want us to live up to everyone’s expectations, but these hackers...



So, we’re giving up on this whole Medjed/Alibaba/Futaba situation, which is kind of an anticlimax. Except not, because if you actually think it’s ending here, you’re a drat fool.

The characters seem awful ready to ignore what’s happening, and fail to think about several crucial questions, like:
  • Who is Alibaba?
  • What is their connection to Futaba Sakura?
  • Why haven’t we seen or heard anything about Futaba once in the three and a half months we’ve been staying here?
  • Is Sojiro abusing her?
  • Why does she need a change of heart?
  • Is she even eligible for a change of heart?
  • What if Medjed hasn’t given up?
  • Will the sushi be delicious?
For the answers to all of these questions and more, tune in next time!

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Sae really enjoying the view from her glass house.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
So Futaba is Boss's Hikikomori daughter that's a hacker that asked us to steal her heart to help her or something? And boss is some sorta expert on "psience" who is being blackmailed by the worst sister, using her?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Is Sae an alien? Because if she is, then her scenes make a lot more sense.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Arist posted:

[*]Will the sushi be delicious?

IT WILL NOT.

dun dun dunnnn

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME
I do like the authenticity in Alibaba's behavior here. Not understanding how stealing hearts exactly works, and making demands, and then realizing it'll get hot for him when the phantom thieves need extra information and desperately backing out.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Arist posted:

Maybe they were just prankin’ us. They made that huge declaration, but they ain’t done nothing since. I bet we got ‘em freaked out.
You mean they backed out because they’re afraid we’ll change their hearts?
Yup. And now it’d just make ‘em look lame if they came out and apologized!

That’s stupid! Why are we pretending this makes any sense, let alone relying on the prospect?

But--
I guess with Alibaba and Medjed outta the picture, can we just say this case is closed?

No! Because they’re not, at all!

God, this is Ryuji's worst idea yet. Yeah, sure, let's ignore the threat of a hacker group who have been known to take down companies, and a mysterious person blackmailing to expose us! Surely they'll never do anything to us or the people in the Phan-dom who support us. You'd think Ryuji would've learned to stop treating it like a game by this point.

Also, Sae continues to prove herself unsympathetic in this update. I can only hope the game doesn't force us to work with her later (Confidant aside), because she's doing her best to look like the biggest jerk.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Given that she's a confidant and a relative to one of the Millennials, I think that might be a futile hope.

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
INCOMING MESSAGE FROM THE BIG GIANT HEAD: So we've been getting an undue amount of reports coming in from this thread in particular about people posting spoilers for stuff in the game. Now, the thing of it is, none of us mods have either played or at least played this far into P5 to be able to judge what is a spoiler for the game and what isn't.

HOWEVER, on the inverse side we've also been getting some clearly false positive reports from people flagging legitimate discussion that seems to be only vaguely hinting at things to come as spoilers.

So to just address both sides of the issue fairly (without, hopefully, imposing on the thread discourse), could we try to at least limit the discussion to events that have already occurred in the game. While at the same time understanding that talking about what may be yet to come in the course of discussing the game entirely is unavoidable. So let's just take a :chillpill: on hitting the report button on every little oblique spoiler and maybe save it for someone who just blurts out blatant plot points or revelations instead?

Lest we forget the OP itself even says:

Arist posted:

:siren:ABSOLUTELY NO loving SPOILERS THIS GAME HAS BEEN OUT FOR A WEEK AND A HALF seven months now:siren:

So let's try to keep that in mind, shall we?

Thank you for your time.

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